new investers ??

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

Just out of interest how much is your chairman worth?

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

hes chanceller of exchequer didnt you know!! knows all things financial especially to do with city!! my point was he doesnt know anything about investors, how they will invest what terms ect ect so its speculation what else can you call it???

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

so we are talking foreign money... Right ok.

I'm a billionaire too then. In fact I've just put 1.5 billion into my savings account today.... Indonesian rupiahs but but still, a billion is a billion right?

10k by the way...

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

hes chanceller of exchequer didnt you know!! knows all things financial especially to do with city!! my point was he doesnt know anything about investors, how they will invest what terms ect ect so its speculation what else can you call it???

Of course he is. someone needs to get a misses or something, spending far too much time on here! It appears personal, I wonder what happened to him?

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

Just out of interest how much is your chairman worth?

Who is my chairman? And I'll gladly answer.

uncle Huw

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

Just out of interest how much is your chairman worth?

Who is my chairman? And I'll gladly answer.

Answer a question with a question, smart

welll you are so anti city he thinks you are swans fan!!! anyway what is apparent we are going to get some sort of investment but wont make any difference to you as you will find fault with it even if said it was being given to us for nothing!!! because that is all you do find faults!

Do we not learn?

1) tan is not a billionaire, not even close.

2) investment means loans, why is everyone so desperate to riddle the club with crippling debt?

mmm 800 mil is close!!!

First of all, that's not close. Are you close to having 200 million?... No

Second of all, it's not 800 mil, as of march it was 751 mil and since then £125m has been wiped off his shares and he's put £30m into us which has not held its value, which currently puts him at £596m.

and you know the investment will be a loan?? mmmm you didnt like annis pretending to be in the know! but you are saying you are in the know if we get new invester they will loan us money!!1 ffs couldnt make it up???

when have I ever said I don't like annis to pretend to be in the know? You are either lying or have confused me with someone else. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for knowing the investment will be a loan.... You do understand the word investment right? Or are you confusing it with the word charity or gift?

so you dont know you are speculating, thats what it is called when dont know facts!!!!

yes I do know, he wants to invest... That means put money in and then get it back and more.
anyway dont bother replying (roath) as you will have anser as always and i cant be bothered to be on merrygoround with you tonite!!

you don't want me to reply because I will have an answer.... How bizarre

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

so we are talking foreign money... Right ok.

I'm a billionaire too then. In fact I've just put 1.5 billion into my savings account today.... Indonesian rupiahs but but still, a billion is a billion right?

10k by the way...

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

just had a very intresting conversation with a mate who has been hearing rumours of new investors from the middle east joining the city board ? one is supposedly a sultan , wasnt there a sultan at the watford game as guest of honour ?
can anybody shed any light on this as to whether its true or not ?

The sultan was Malysian I believe, sultan of an area of Malasia or Aisa.......

He was the Sultan of Johor

Nice one yes that was him, heard he is minted and pretty influential in Malaysia, according to this Malaysian, if he was come on board this would be massive news over there, and raise our profile, which is high anyway even further.

uncle Huw

An you are implying I'm a swans fan.

I'll answer anyway. It doesn't matter what he's worth, it doesn't come into it. Swansea don't loan money. They spend what they earn.

City fans seem to have got confused what a chairman is supposed to do. He's supposed to act as a treasurer for the clubs money and spend it with the manager accordingly. Not loan the club millions of pounds while tacking on interest to cripple it.

Swansea have spent £25 million on players in 2 seasons, every penny earned by the club and not borrowed a dime.

That is how you run football clubs. Not owing £30m to one investor (Sam) who now wants his money back while owing another £60m to another (Tan) and then looking for another (sultan of Aladdin) racking up interest on every one of them while not even having enough income to pay the players.

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?[/quote]


Couldn't let this one go

Mr Financial Expert, I'd like to point out that a British 'Billion' is actually a THOUSAND million and a US 'Billion' is a HUNDRED million.

I'd like to thank you

Also, I was once the proud owner of a million Italian Lira........How rich am I?!

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

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just had a very intresting conversation with a mate who has been hearing rumours of new investors from the middle east joining the city board ? one is supposedly a sultan , wasnt there a sultan at the watford game as guest of honour ?
can anybody shed any light on this as to whether its true or not ?

The sultan was Malysian I believe, sultan of an area of Malasia or Aisa.......

He was the Sultan of Johor

Nice one yes that was him, heard he is minted and pretty influential in Malaysia, according to this Malaysian, if he was come on board this would be massive news over there, and raise our profile, which is high anyway even further.

i posted at time he was at city! hes not to popular with natives and yes if the family invested their riches well in the past hes got alot of dosh!!!

First of all clever clogs a British billion is 1 million million, therefore we are referring to us millions. Which is the currency most countries trade in 'the dollar' mute point but if tan is a billionaire it would be in foreign currency and not ours. In any case 751 millions pounds is a lot of money, loan all of that out at 7% and what's your return?

Couldn't let this one go

Mr Financial Expert, I'd like to point out that a British 'Billion' is actually a THOUSAND million and a US 'Billion' is a HUNDRED million.

I'd like to thank you

Also, I was once the proud owner of a million Italian Lira........How rich am I?! [/quote]

Agrreed we ave now adopted the American English billion, please post link where a us billion is 100 million and I will eat my humble pie

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

No smoking.

We have all heard your thoughts.

We are in debt.
Our owners are not as bright as you. They don't know what they are doing.
They are so bad at making money, you have made far more.
I bet there is not one accountant working for them. Cripes they are shit eh?
They are that bad at it, they are even putting circa £1mil a month into it.
They must be doing that by accident?
Yes, that must be it, it is some banking error paying all our bills.
When you can prove that you are better at investing money than them, I will take note.
Perhaps you should call them and give them the benefit of your wisdom?

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

If it is its the most pointless measurement of money ever.

Tan has 591m English pounds. Thats not a billion in the currency we use. The rest is just ego massaging.

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591 is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

american dollars you forgot that!! and that is international currency refered to as if you didnt no! 1.2 billion was last ammount i saw!!!

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The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

1,000,000,000 (number), one thousand million

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

If it is its the most pointless measurement of money ever.

Tan has 591m English pounds. Thats not a billion in the currency we use. The rest is just ego massaging.

He is not English though, why would he count his cash in English pounds? Doh!

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

If it is its the most pointless measurement of money ever.

Tan has 591m English pounds. Thats not a billion in the currency we use. The rest is just ego massaging.

and you are manipulating figures to suite you! so there!!

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

1,000,000,000 (number), one thousand million

Thank you SBF. Brackla do your research before siding with the jack

No smoking.

We have all heard your thoughts.

We are in debt.
badly
Our owners are not as bright as you. They don't know what they are doing.
interesting opinion
They are so bad at making money, you have made far more.
i didn't say either of those things. But making money doesn't necessarily mean to the benefit of the club, in fact it is often the opposite
I bet there is not one accountant working for them. Cripes they are shit eh?
dont need an accountant to know we are losing £2m a month and have over invested in a club worth £15m by £85m and rising
They are that bad at it, they are even putting circa £1mil a month into it.
£2m
They must be doing that by accident?
im sure they mean to, otherwise the club gets wound up.
Yes, that must be it, it is some banking error paying all our bills.
its an error for us because every bill they pay, we owe them that amount and 7%
When you can prove that you are better at investing money than them, I will take note.
again you are confusing being good at investing money and improving a football club. They could destroy us and still make money, in fact it's probably the most likely outcome.
Perhaps you should call them and give them the benefit of your wisdom?
im sure they are well aware of what they are doing.

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

If it is its the most pointless measurement of money ever.

Tan has 591m English pounds. Thats not a billion in the currency we use. The rest is just ego massaging.

and you are manipulating figures to suite you! so there!!

Really! Go on I'm all ears...

The point was dick the measure of billionaire is irrelevant as in the context of billionaire globally this generally refers to dollars
, do you get my point? Oil by the barrel given in what currency etc.

Euros, pounds, australian dollars... It makes little difference.

£591m is not a billion in any of them. Sorry to burst your bubble and all.

So is a US billion 100 million?

If it is its the most pointless measurement of money ever.

Tan has 591m English pounds. Thats not a billion in the currency we use. The rest is just ego massaging.

He is not English though, why would he count his cash in English pounds? Doh!

He isn't American either.

We are a British club and as far as we are once ended his money is also in that form. Do you think he paid west ham $5m US dollars or £3m British sterling?

Exactly.

No smoking.

We have all heard your thoughts.

We are in debt.
badly
Our owners are not as bright as you. They don't know what they are doing.
interesting opinion
They are so bad at making money, you have made far more.
i didn't say either of those things. But making money doesn't necessarily mean to the benefit of the club, in fact it is often the opposite
I bet there is not one accountant working for them. Cripes they are shit eh?
dont need an accountant to know we are losing £2m a month and have over invested in a club worth £15m by £85m and rising
They are that bad at it, they are even putting circa £1mil a month into it.
£2m
They must be doing that by accident?
im sure they mean to, otherwise the club gets wound up.
Yes, that must be it, it is some banking error paying all our bills.
its an error for us because every bill they pay, we owe them that amount and 7%
When you can prove that you are better at investing money than them, I will take note.
again you are confusing being good at investing money and improving a football club. They could destroy us and still make money, in fact it's probably the most likely outcome.
Perhaps you should call them and give them the benefit of your wisdom?
im sure they are well aware of what they are doing.

curious how can they destroy us and make money we only have players as assets!! no ground (cannot be sold) no land either at present 100mil debt ffs gets worse!

No smoking.

We have all heard your thoughts.

We are in debt.
badly
Our owners are not as bright as you. They don't know what they are doing.
interesting opinion
They are so bad at making money, you have made far more.
i didn't say either of those things. But making money doesn't necessarily mean to the benefit of the club, in fact it is often the opposite
I bet there is not one accountant working for them. Cripes they are shit eh?
dont need an accountant to know we are losing £2m a month and have over invested in a club worth £15m by £85m and rising
They are that bad at it, they are even putting circa £1mil a month into it.
£2m
They must be doing that by accident?
im sure they mean to, otherwise the club gets wound up.
Yes, that must be it, it is some banking error paying all our bills.
its an error for us because every bill they pay, we owe them that amount and 7%
When you can prove that you are better at investing money than them, I will take note.
again you are confusing being good at investing money and improving a football club. They could destroy us and still make money, in fact it's probably the most likely outcome.
Perhaps you should call them and give them the benefit of your wisdom?
im sure they are well aware of what they are doing.

curious how can they destroy us and make money we only have players as assets!! no ground (cannot be sold) no land either at present 100mil debt ffs gets worse!

Floating us on the stock exchange then not investing the money coming in.
Using us as advertising for other businesses until they have had their investment worth, advertising is not cheap (look at our shirts ffs)
Asset stripping to some degree.

All these if done in combination would probably make their cash back. And after it we would be liquidated. What do you honestly think their intentions are ffs, they know we don't make a lot of money and they know we can't pay them back and the company is losing them £24m per year.

They aren't stupid.

I've lost interest again. Keep up the good work NS up to 12.09 posts a day, only Annis can beat that (obsessed springs to mind)

No smoking.

We have all heard your thoughts.

We are in debt.
badly
Our owners are not as bright as you. They don't know what they are doing.
interesting opinion
They are so bad at making money, you have made far more.
i didn't say either of those things. But making money doesn't necessarily mean to the benefit of the club, in fact it is often the opposite
I bet there is not one accountant working for them. Cripes they are shit eh?
dont need an accountant to know we are losing £2m a month and have over invested in a club worth £15m by £85m and rising
They are that bad at it, they are even putting circa £1mil a month into it.
£2m
They must be doing that by accident?
im sure they mean to, otherwise the club gets wound up.
Yes, that must be it, it is some banking error paying all our bills.
its an error for us because every bill they pay, we owe them that amount and 7%
When you can prove that you are better at investing money than them, I will take note.
again you are confusing being good at investing money and improving a football club. They could destroy us and still make money, in fact it's probably the most likely outcome.
Perhaps you should call them and give them the benefit of your wisdom?
im sure they are well aware of what they are doing.

curious how can they destroy us and make money we only have players as assets!! no ground (cannot be sold) no land either at present 100mil debt ffs gets worse!

Floating us on the stock exchange then not investing the ones coming in.
Using us as advertising for other businesses until they have had their investment worth, advertising is not cheap.
Asset stripping to some degree.

All these if do e in co binational would probably make their cash back. And after it we would be liquidated. What do you honestly honk their intentions are ffs, they know we don't make a lot of money and they know we can't pay them back and the compan is losing them £24m per year.

They aren't stupid.

no they are not and yes they are in it to make money same as sam! but whats amazing is your knowledge of vts intentions financial dealings ect ect you seem to know more than he does! sorry but you dont have clue you just put 2&2 together & come up with your own assumptions its that simple!