British

They dont play by the rules in Afghanistan. They used to cut the young Russian conscripts around the waist and pull the skin up over their heads, alive aswell. They have no emotion at doing such things, like cutting the ears and noses off their women. I seen the pictures in National geographic magazine. They rarely take prisoners. So you either play by the rules of the Geneva convention or ....... Obviously they should not have filmed it.

What apparently happened is not good to say the least, plus it was filmed.

An injured Taliban insurgent was laying on the ground, the fire fight was over.....some marines took him back to a house or somewhere and were sat around talking with him in the middle and instead of tending to his wounds they basically executed him......Im not passing judgement as ive never been in a war.

I love the "instead of tending to his wounds" bit

If some c**t shot your mam or dad in the face and you managed to capture him and he was
in a bad way, would you tend to his wounds?

If u read my post i said im not passing judgement on them as ive never been in a war and have no idea what they r going through.

I just posted what apparently happened.

Your reference to his wounds suggests they should have bandaged him up?

Would you have done?

If it was my professional duty to do so Taffy i'd like to think I would......but being in that situation I really dont know how I'd react

If it was my professional duty to do so Taffy i'd like to think I would......but being in that situation I really dont know how I'd react

If it was my professional duty to do so Taffy i'd like to think I would......but being in that situation I really dont know how I'd react

You dont know how you'd react because you havent a scooby what happened. None of
us had. Their motto out there is "judged by twelve or carried by six".. what a damned
shame some people are happy to convict them already

Cant wait then until all those guys who have aimed "drones" at little dots on a TV screen get called to give evidence against their commanders - as they were only following orders

If some insurgent f***er was shooting at me and then decided he had had enough and wanted to surrender he would get exactly the same treatment as what the marines dished out.

In every war prisoners have always been killed, we have done it in every war - doesnt make it right, normally happens just after or during the battle but on the other hand there are many examples of prisoners being protected at the cost of their captors.

They have not signed up to the any convention, THEY do not take prisoners (who survive) and yet we are expected to treat then with "oh there there, let me stick a plaster on that wound for you"

Get our troops out and let the afghans sort their own shit out - we can always send "drones" in later!!!

If it was my professional duty to do so Taffy i'd like to think I would......but being in that situation I really dont know how I'd react

You dont know how you'd react because you havent a scooby what happened. None of
us had. Their motto out there is "judged by twelve or carried by six".. what a damned
shame some people are happy to convict them already

I havent convicted them....f*cking read my posts i said i will not judge them as im not out there in that situation. I just wrote down what is being reported!

If it was my professional duty to do so Taffy i'd like to think I would......but being in that situation I really dont know how I'd react

You dont know how you'd react because you havent a scooby what happened. None of
us had. Their motto out there is "judged by twelve or carried by six".. what a damned
shame some people are happy to convict them already

I havent convicted them....f*cking read my posts i said i will not judge them as im not out there in that situation. I just wrote down what is being reported!

If it was my professional duty to do so Taffy i'd like to think I would......but being in that situation I really dont know how I'd react

Had to Chuckle you basically wanted to brutally torture Waddle and his Family, But to a wounded Taliban Monster you wanted to Mother him. Why could you not do to the Taliban what you wanted to do to Waddle ?

What apparently happened is not good to say the least, plus it was filmed.

An injured Taliban insurgent was laying on the ground, the fire fight was over.....some marines took him back to a house or somewhere and were sat around talking with him in the middle and instead of tending to his wounds they basically executed him......Im not passing judgement as ive never been in a war.

I love the "instead of tending to his wounds" bit

If some c**t shot your mam or dad in the face and you managed to capture him and he was
in a bad way, would you tend to his wounds?

If u read my post i said im not passing judgement on them as ive never been in a war and have no idea what they r going through.

I just posted what apparently happened.

The "instead of tending to his wounds" bit gives the game away.

Who told you that?

Do you think they should have? Do you know what wounds he had?

You feel for the poor guy dont you

Nukes, i didnt threaten to torture Waddles family. He sent me a pm totally out the blue, i didnt even know him and he called me all sorts...so i said i hoped he dies.

As for Taffy, your posts used to be fair, your just being a tw*t lately. Where have I said anything other than whats being reported?? Where have i said i agree or disagree with what they have done??

If you open your eyes you will see I have said "I am not going to judge them as ive never been in war and not in their position" I said "id like to think id do my job properly, but im not sure how id react in their position"

Get a f*cking grip!

Nukes, i didnt threaten to torture Waddles family. He sent me a pm totally out the blue, i didnt even know him and he called me all sorts...so i said i hoped he dies.

As for Taffy, your posts used to be fair, your just being a tw*t lately. Where have I said anything other than whats being reported?? Where have i said i agree or disagree with what they have done??

If you open your eyes you will see I have said "I am not going to judge them as ive never been in war and not in their position" I said "id like to think id do my job properly, but im not sure how id react in their position"

Get a f*cking grip!

I'll ask you again. Where did you read that they didnt tend to his wounds?
what wounds were they? and if you didnt read it anywhere, surely its a fair
question to ask why you even thought about it? To me it suggests that although
you say you arent judging these lads... deep down you've already got them down
as wrong ins

Taffy, read my posts...i said "what apparently happened" i also said im not sure if its true or not but its all over the internet.......look at any news agency website.

I havent judged them and the fact your saying i have because of the phrase "tend their wounds" is ludicrous.

I havent heard any of the evidence and as far as im concerned they have the right to a fair trial if it comes to that so will remain innocent until such a time they are proved guilty. My stance on that will never change.

Yes it could cost more lives. Thats why the charges should never been brought up . f**k them taliban cunts. They should shoot everyone of the rats. They dont want democracy. They like living in the stoneage,and 99% are heroin addicts.

Oh i see war is hell doctrine, whatever it takes. Doesnt work like that my friend and it never has done. Grow up this isnt some stupid row on a terrace where people are pretending to be hard. If people do something wrong they should be punished thats a fact of life. Soldiers have been punished for breaking the law since time began dont see why that should change, the law is the law. Just because your enemy doesnt follow the law or has signed up to different conventions doesnt give you the right to throw away those laws yourself. These are professional soldiers, they fucked up. Simple really. They are in no different a situation than any other soldier. Others Soldiers have been in fire fights and not broken the law, so why should these guys be allowed to get away with it. Other soldiers have lost friends and colleagues in battle and not broken the law, so why should these guys get away with it. Other Soldiers have taken prisoners and managed to control themselves and not break the law, so why should these guys get away with it.
You have two choices and none of them involve the enemy. You either praise these 7 Marines call them heroes for what they have done and congratulate them for their bravery whilst calling every other serviceman including the rest of the Marine Corps cowards for not following their example. Or you praise the good work of the armed forces and especially the good work of the Marine Corps, for working within very hostile and dangerous conditions with dignity and honour and within the rules of engagement, accept that people will break these laws though in very isolated incidents and it is not acceptable and will be punished. Your choice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -risk.html

your a knobhead feller

Taffy, read my posts...i said "what apparently happened" i also said im not sure if its true or not but its all over the internet.......look at any news agency website.

I havent judged them and the fact your saying i have because of the phrase "tend their wounds" is ludicrous.

I havent heard any of the evidence and as far as im concerned they have the right to a fair trial if it comes to that so will remain innocent until such a time they are proved guilty. My stance on that will never change.

Righto.

it just came into your head that they hadnt tended to whatever wounds he had. Which
might have been a bruised toe for all you know. But it never came into your head that
the Taliban may or may not have been reaching for a weapon. Goading them. Trying to
escape? Fair enough.

your all for our lads

Yes it could cost more lives. Thats why the charges should never been brought up . f**k them taliban cunts. They should shoot everyone of the rats. They dont want democracy. They like living in the stoneage,and 99% are heroin addicts.

Oh i see war is hell doctrine, whatever it takes. Doesnt work like that my friend and it never has done. Grow up this isnt some stupid row on a terrace where people are pretending to be hard. If people do something wrong they should be punished thats a fact of life. Soldiers have been punished for breaking the law since time began dont see why that should change, the law is the law. Just because your enemy doesnt follow the law or has signed up to different conventions doesnt give you the right to throw away those laws yourself. These are professional soldiers, they fucked up. Simple really. They are in no different a situation than any other soldier. Others Soldiers have been in fire fights and not broken the law, so why should these guys be allowed to get away with it. Other soldiers have lost friends and colleagues in battle and not broken the law, so why should these guys get away with it. Other Soldiers have taken prisoners and managed to control themselves and not break the law, so why should these guys get away with it.
You have two choices and none of them involve the enemy. You either praise these 7 Marines call them heroes for what they have done and congratulate them for their bravery whilst calling every other serviceman including the rest of the Marine Corps cowards for not following their example. Or you praise the good work of the armed forces and especially the good work of the Marine Corps, for working within very hostile and dangerous conditions with dignity and honour and within the rules of engagement, accept that people will break these laws though in very isolated incidents and it is not acceptable and will be punished. Your choice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -risk.html

your a knobhead feller

and im a knobhead how?
those are the rules. if they change them which they can do, they will change them.
when youve served this country come back to me. I have with these rules and im still alive and im not a murderer.
you are losing the plot. have a civil conversation or do one sick and tired of being called a tw*t for having an opinion.

In one incident an insurgent fired single shots at a base for 15 minutes but was not taken out by a missile as after every shot he put down his rifle knowing he could not be hit if he was unarmed.

(from that article linked)
This is the kind of thing that we are talking about. That insurgent wasn't doing that to get rid of the British, or to free his country, or to inflict casualties. He was doing it because he was a cheeky f**k who was making fun of the fact that he couldn't be shot. He was having a laugh in front of his mates. It's no surprise that those Marines took the opportunity to finish off an insurgent that they had captured. If they are able to start shooting then put down their rifles knowing they can't be harmed then how long is it before they aren't allowed to be shot at all? What if a British soldier in thatbase had been hit and his mates couldn't fire back. The tali's get everything they sodding well deserve.

Yes it could cost more lives. Thats why the charges should never been brought up . f**k them taliban cunts. They should shoot everyone of the rats. They dont want democracy. They like living in the stoneage,and 99% are heroin addicts.

Oh i see war is hell doctrine, whatever it takes. Doesnt work like that my friend and it never has done. Grow up this isnt some stupid row on a terrace where people are pretending to be hard. If people do something wrong they should be punished thats a fact of life. Soldiers have been punished for breaking the law since time began dont see why that should change, the law is the law. Just because your enemy doesnt follow the law or has signed up to different conventions doesnt give you the right to throw away those laws yourself. These are professional soldiers, they fucked up. Simple really. They are in no different a situation than any other soldier. Others Soldiers have been in fire fights and not broken the law, so why should these guys be allowed to get away with it. Other soldiers have lost friends and colleagues in battle and not broken the law, so why should these guys get away with it. Other Soldiers have taken prisoners and managed to control themselves and not break the law, so why should these guys get away with it.
You have two choices and none of them involve the enemy. You either praise these 7 Marines call them heroes for what they have done and congratulate them for their bravery whilst calling every other serviceman including the rest of the Marine Corps cowards for not following their example. Or you praise the good work of the armed forces and especially the good work of the Marine Corps, for working within very hostile and dangerous conditions with dignity and honour and within the rules of engagement, accept that people will break these laws though in very isolated incidents and it is not acceptable and will be punished. Your choice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -risk.html

your a knobhead feller

and stop throwing news articles that are over 2 years old at me please

Yes it could cost more lives. Thats why the charges should never been brought up . f**k them taliban cunts. They should shoot everyone of the rats. They dont want democracy. They like living in the stoneage,and 99% are heroin addicts.

Oh i see war is hell doctrine, whatever it takes. Doesnt work like that my friend and it never has done. Grow up this isnt some stupid row on a terrace where people are pretending to be hard. If people do something wrong they should be punished thats a fact of life. Soldiers have been punished for breaking the law since time began dont see why that should change, the law is the law. Just because your enemy doesnt follow the law or has signed up to different conventions doesnt give you the right to throw away those laws yourself. These are professional soldiers, they fucked up. Simple really. They are in no different a situation than any other soldier. Others Soldiers have been in fire fights and not broken the law, so why should these guys be allowed to get away with it. Other soldiers have lost friends and colleagues in battle and not broken the law, so why should these guys get away with it. Other Soldiers have taken prisoners and managed to control themselves and not break the law, so why should these guys get away with it.
You have two choices and none of them involve the enemy. You either praise these 7 Marines call them heroes for what they have done and congratulate them for their bravery whilst calling every other serviceman including the rest of the Marine Corps cowards for not following their example. Or you praise the good work of the armed forces and especially the good work of the Marine Corps, for working within very hostile and dangerous conditions with dignity and honour and within the rules of engagement, accept that people will break these laws though in very isolated incidents and it is not acceptable and will be punished. Your choice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -risk.html

your a knobhead feller

and im a knobhead how?
those are the rules. if they change them which they can do, they will change them.
when youve served this country come back to me. I have with these rules and im still alive and im not a murderer.
you are losing the plot. have a civil conversation or do one sick and tired of being called a tw*t for having an opinion.

See, you absolute c**t.

Nor are these lads, innocent until proven f*cking guilty

P.s.

79 til 83

I served

Yes it could cost more lives. Thats why the charges should never been brought up . f**k them taliban cunts. They should shoot everyone of the rats. They dont want democracy. They like living in the stoneage,and 99% are heroin addicts.

Oh i see war is hell doctrine, whatever it takes. Doesnt work like that my friend and it never has done. Grow up this isnt some stupid row on a terrace where people are pretending to be hard. If people do something wrong they should be punished thats a fact of life. Soldiers have been punished for breaking the law since time began dont see why that should change, the law is the law. Just because your enemy doesnt follow the law or has signed up to different conventions doesnt give you the right to throw away those laws yourself. These are professional soldiers, they fucked up. Simple really. They are in no different a situation than any other soldier. Others Soldiers have been in fire fights and not broken the law, so why should these guys be allowed to get away with it. Other soldiers have lost friends and colleagues in battle and not broken the law, so why should these guys get away with it. Other Soldiers have taken prisoners and managed to control themselves and not break the law, so why should these guys get away with it.
You have two choices and none of them involve the enemy. You either praise these 7 Marines call them heroes for what they have done and congratulate them for their bravery whilst calling every other serviceman including the rest of the Marine Corps cowards for not following their example. Or you praise the good work of the armed forces and especially the good work of the Marine Corps, for working within very hostile and dangerous conditions with dignity and honour and within the rules of engagement, accept that people will break these laws though in very isolated incidents and it is not acceptable and will be punished. Your choice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -risk.html

your a knobhead feller

and im a knobhead how?
those are the rules. if they change them which they can do, they will change them.
when youve served this country come back to me. I have with these rules and im still alive and im not a murderer.
you are losing the plot. have a civil conversation or do one sick and tired of being called a tw*t for having an opinion.

See, you absolute c**t.

Nor are these lads, innocent until proven f*cking guilty

P.s.

79 til 83

I served

i didnt say they were either, just stating im not.
if youve served you know you dont get turned over by the MP's unless youve done something really serious or something you cant hide from, this has taken over a year for the marines to be arrested its not a flash in the pan incident something that happened last week. Agreed innocent until proven guilty, ive been to war but the only time ive been in trouble with any MP is on a saturday night on union street.

Taffy, read my posts...i said "what apparently happened" i also said im not sure if its true or not but its all over the internet.......look at any news agency website.

I havent judged them and the fact your saying i have because of the phrase "tend their wounds" is ludicrous.

I havent heard any of the evidence and as far as im concerned they have the right to a fair trial if it comes to that so will remain innocent until such a time they are proved guilty. My stance on that will never change.

Righto.

it just came into your head that they hadnt tended to whatever wounds he had. Which
might have been a bruised toe for all you know. But it never came into your head that
the Taliban may or may not have been reaching for a weapon. Goading them. Trying to
escape? Fair enough.

your all for our lads

I am for our lads, my cousin is one of them in royal welsh and hes out there now! I only mentioned the wounds as it was written in an article i read. What is your issue Taffy???

For the pair of you.

If your supporting our troops then god help them

Stop being a presumptious prick

Stop being a presumptious prick

Presumptious is you and 'numbers'... he thinks their murderers, you
are hung up about them not dressing wounds you havent even seen

Here's some hard facts you dont know. it'll be out in a few days anyway

The video shows the fucker injured, in their custody.

then it shows him dead.

Thats it.

All for f*cking show this farce.

Thank f**k you two arent judges

For the pair of you.

If your supporting our troops then god help them

support them more than you think
only thing I ask is you carry out your duties with honour and respect even i you dont get it in return. Its what they face those are the facts, its what we are used to, we fought against the IRA for a few decades and I very much doubt they were respectful towards our troops, but take the IRA and increase it by a factor of 10 and youve got the taliban. This type of warfare is not conventional warfare which makes conventional rules hard to work with which is why they adapt and change them, if they need to be changed with a change of warfare so be it but dont forget being arrested on suspicion of murder is about as bad as it gets. They will have a court martial and I really hope to God they are innocent because the repercussions if they are guilty are huge not only for the troops in afghan now but especially for the marines. Though if they are guilty, they have only got themselves to blame. Thousands of troops have been in thousands of contacts in afghan and have taken many prisoners. Though to be fair their punishment will be light what did the guardsman get who bayoneted that 10 year old, discharged from the army after he serves 18 months in prison not a massive sentence is it.

they killed an insurgent, isn't that a part of there job description for being over there? for all we know this scum could have been seen laying mine's, killed one of there mate's, we don't know, if it was a civilian then fair enough, but it wasn't.

Stop being a presumptious prick

Presumptious is you and 'numbers'... he thinks their murderers, you
are hung up about them not dressing wounds you havent even seen

Here's some hard facts you dont know. it'll be out in a few days anyway

The video shows the fucker injured, in their custody.

then it shows him dead.

Thats it.

All for f*cking show this farce.

Thank f**k you two arent judges

I have said i cant judge them cos i dont know the facts...get that through ur thick f*cking head...read all my posts and i find one thing that is against the marines....infact i said ive never been to war so cant imagine what they r going through....thats sticking up for them!

Its funny cos your saying here that its innocent till proven guilty, yet in the mark bridger thread you were arguing the complete f*cking opposite you hypocrite.........get ur f*cking head straight u daft c**t!

they killed an insurgent, isn't that a part of there job description for being over there? for all we know this scum could have been seen laying mine's, killed one of there mate's, we don't know, if it was a civilian then fair enough, but it wasn't.

No its not, not after said insurgent has surrendered. Once enemy combatants surrender they are no longer combatants they are prisoners of war.
If you want to go down that route stop calling afghan soldiers and policemen who shoot our troops murderers, because its war.
You cant damn one and forgive another.

they killed an insurgent, isn't that a part of there job description for being over there? for all we know this scum could have been seen laying mine's, killed one of there mate's, we don't know, if it was a civilian then fair enough, but it wasn't.

FACTS are mate. The Taliban can and will do whatever they like to kill our lads.
They will force children to carry bombs. behead anyone who disagress with them
or wont hide their caches. They are horrible cunts.

Our troops are actively encouraged not to even shoot back if at all possible. Try to
restrain yourselves lads. They might not be Taliban, they might be disgruntled farmers.

Our f*cking Government sent them in, then tell them they have to take incoming rounds
before firing back. Just in case the Taliban havent spotted them. I kid you not. Someone
I know very well was on a patrol, they spotted about 30 of them armed to the teeth and
it would have been a perfect ambush. They'd have mullered them. They were told to let
them go. Why? because the Government know full well that when we leave, the Taliban
will take over the Country again and Britain will want to kiss the arse of whoever is in
power.

this farce is all about showing the Afghans we are a 'noble' race, and can be trusted.

The seven lads will NEVER get convicted on the evidence they have. Because there isn't any.

Some clown said how the MPs would never pursue a case like this without hard evidence.

There isnt any.

But the MP's are acting at the behest of political masters in Downing Street.

Shame some alleged supporters of our troops have already got them in jail for it.

but hey. The Taliban have rights. Far more than our troops.

Bandages not bullets. Lets give a Taliban a hug

Stop being a presumptious prick

Presumptious is you and 'numbers'... he thinks their murderers, you
are hung up about them not dressing wounds you havent even seen

Here's some hard facts you dont know. it'll be out in a few days anyway

The video shows the fucker injured, in their custody.

then it shows him dead.

Thats it.

All for f*cking show this farce.

Thank f**k you two arent judges

I have said i cant judge them cos i dont know the facts...get that through ur thick f*cking head...read all my posts and i find one thing that is against the marines....infact i said ive never been to war so cant imagine what they r going through....thats sticking up for them!

Its funny cos your saying here that its innocent till proven guilty, yet in the mark bridger thread you were arguing the complete f*cking opposite you hypocrite.........get ur f*cking head straight u daft c**t!

Listen cock. Mark Bridger has been in custody for three weeks nearly and his solicitor has not
said a word. Not a whisper.Nor did he apply for bail (did you not know that?) the preponderance
of FACTS is that he has killed that little girl. Not one friend or relative has come forward to
say 'thats not our Mark'. So I've made a pretty safe assessment that this bloke is up to his neck
in her death.

Show me the link where it said the Royal Marines didnt treat his wounds?