Coleman out

I've seen no Welsh payer linked with a 60million loud move to Barca.

Bale was linked heavily last season, at one stage it said a £32 million deal had been agreed. It later merged that spurs wanted add on equating to 60 million euros.

I'm here to help.

So basically nowhere near the 60 million you mentioned then. Stop making up transfers.

well it's exactly 60 million yes.

The point being however Ramsey is not a target for any top club, and certainly not for that kind of money. If you think he's as good as bale you may aswell give up football and take up knitting. Allen is better than Ramsey as is Bellamy.

So you've made up a transfer in your head - well done you.

I merely stated that Ramsey is one of our better players. Along with Bale. That's a fair assessment of the situation.

Yep and then transferred it by telepathy to media outlets and Internet sites all over the web

And no, you said Ramsey is our best player alongside bale, which is simply not true.

5th best is probably more accurate.

really good stripping your best player of the captaincy what a f*cking muppet get the jack b*stard out

Here here going nowhere with him in charge. Only a matter of time though before he gets sacked, just a shame it will mean Wales obviously doing badly.

No I didn't. Stop making up posts and transfers.

He is. Alongside Bale.

I've seen no Welsh payer linked with a 60million loud move to Barca.

Bale was linked heavily last season, at one stage it said a £32 million deal had been agreed. It later merged that spurs wanted add on equating to 60 million euros.

I'm here to help.

So basically nowhere near the 60 million you mentioned then. Stop making up transfers.

well it's exactly 60 million yes.

The point being however Ramsey is not a target for any top club, and certainly not for that kind of money. If you think he's as good as bale you may aswell give up football and take up knitting. Allen is better than Ramsey as is Bellamy.

So you've made up a transfer in your head - well done you.

I merely stated that Ramsey is one of our better players. Along with Bale. That's a fair assessment of the situation.

Yep and then transferred it by telepathy to media outlets and Internet sites all over the web

And no, you said Ramsey is our best player alongside bale, which is simply not true.

5th best is probably more accurate.

Fact or opinion?

Fact

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

Wtf?

Wrong thread pal.

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

Wtf?

Wrong thread pal.

Wrong site, Jack.

Go on another one then

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

Wtf?

Wrong thread pal.

how's this the wrong thread - it's a coleman out thread is it not! and a few of the comments are about the captain being english.

and re: the guy calling me a jack. Born at the heath and supporting Cardiff since the age of 8 - you can do one!

I'll go on another one then

Feel free.

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

Wtf?

Wrong thread pal.

how's this the wrong thread - it's a coleman out thread is it not! and a few of the comments are about the captain being english.

and re: the guy calling me a jack. Born at the heath and supporting Cardiff since the age of 8 - you can do one!

I didn't call you a Jack, I called No Smoking a Jack, because he is. Read my post again, if you like.

I'll go on another one then

Feel free.

I'm always free.

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

Wtf?

Wrong thread pal.

how's this the wrong thread - it's a coleman out thread is it not! and a few of the comments are about the captain being english.

and re: the guy calling me a jack. Born at the heath and supporting Cardiff since the age of 8 - you can do one!

I didn't call you a Jack, I called No Smoking a Jack, because he is. Read my post again, if you like.

Apologies! only saw your comment and not that you were responding.

I'll go on another one then

Feel free.

I'm always free.

The Devil finds work for idle hands.

whether or not the captain is english or welsh is the least of our bloody problems.

" an absolute disgrace - any blame towards Ramsey not being effective enough in games is also f*cking out of order - presuming the reason he's been stripped for under performing

We've simply been hoofing the ball over our midfield since Coleman came in. Hoof it up to no one with the philosophy that we'll progress further up field this way regardless of whether we win the first header or not.

Coleman's tactics = men behind ball, long ball to progress and hit on counter using bale and others individual ability.

Speed's tactics = press high up, play out from back and through the midfield - slowly progressing further forward and compressing play high upfield. relying on the team's cohesiveness. losing the ball high up field was then pressed and won back closer to their goal, putting the other team under pressure.

Disgraceful step back from Wales. If I was a Welsh player I'd have quit out of respect for Speed. The welsh FA and Coleman have shown no respect in continuity at all - I'd have preferred a complete non-manager to have come in and kept everything else the same. Raymond V was a huge loss - the combination of his and Speed's ideas were the driving force behind the short but gradual success.

We spent a year getting to where we were tactically and in what seems like a few months Coleman has thrown the book out of the window and reverted back to 1950's tactics (Reep)"

Wtf?

Wrong thread pal.

how's this the wrong thread - it's a coleman out thread is it not! and a few of the comments are about the captain being english.

and re: the guy calling me a jack. Born at the heath and supporting Cardiff since the age of 8 - you can do one!

I didn't call you a Jack, I called No Smoking a Jack, because he is. Read my post again, if you like.

Apologies! only saw your comment and not that you were responding.

OK, mate.

I'll go on another one then

Feel free.

I'm always free.

The Devil finds work for idle hands.

Adam brown?

I'll go on another one then

Feel free.

I'm always free.

The Devil finds work for idle hands.

Adam brown?

Are you?

Am I what?

I've seen no Welsh payer linked with a 60million loud move to Barca.

Bale was linked heavily last season, at one stage it said a £32 million deal had been agreed. It later merged that spurs wanted add on equating to 60 million euros.

I'm here to help.

So basically nowhere near the 60 million you mentioned then. Stop making up transfers.

well it's exactly 60 million yes.

The point being however Ramsey is not a target for any top club, and certainly not for that kind of money. If you think he's as good as bale you may aswell give up football and take up knitting. Allen is better than Ramsey as is Bellamy.

Allen is a different type of footballer to bale. Allen keeps it simple, little passes etc. where as Ramsey is more of an offensive midfielder. I don't think you can really compare he both, same goes with Bellamy. Ramsey is only 21 and already at a top club in Arsenal. Bale was targeted by other clubs because Spurs didn't make the champions league.

I've seen no Welsh payer linked with a 60million loud move to Barca.

Bale was linked heavily last season, at one stage it said a £32 million deal had been agreed. It later merged that spurs wanted add on equating to 60 million euros.

I'm here to help.

So basically nowhere near the 60 million you mentioned then. Stop making up transfers.

well it's exactly 60 million yes.

The point being however Ramsey is not a target for any top club, and certainly not for that kind of money. If you think he's as good as bale you may aswell give up football and take up knitting. Allen is better than Ramsey as is Bellamy.

Allen is a different type of footballer to bale. Allen keeps it simple, little passes etc. where as Ramsey is more of an offensive midfielder. I don't think you can really compare he both, same goes with Bellamy. Ramsey is only 21 and already at a top club in Arsenal. Bale was targeted by other clubs because Spurs didn't make the champions league.

Allen is more valuable to a team than Ramsey. If they were both on the open market Allen would command the larger price tag. Allen is the key to Liverpool, Ramsey is an understudy to Wilshire

Bale was targeted as he is probably the best winger in the world.

I've seen no Welsh payer linked with a 60million loud move to Barca.

Bale was linked heavily last season, at one stage it said a £32 million deal had been agreed. It later merged that spurs wanted add on equating to 60 million euros.

I'm here to help.

So basically nowhere near the 60 million you mentioned then. Stop making up transfers.

well it's exactly 60 million yes.

The point being however Ramsey is not a target for any top club, and certainly not for that kind of money. If you think he's as good as bale you may aswell give up football and take up knitting. Allen is better than Ramsey as is Bellamy.

Allen is a different type of footballer to bale. Allen keeps it simple, little passes etc. where as Ramsey is more of an offensive midfielder. I don't think you can really compare he both, same goes with Bellamy. Ramsey is only 21 and already at a top club in Arsenal. Bale was targeted by other clubs because Spurs didn't make the champions league.

Allen is more valuable to a team than Ramsey. If they were both on the open market Allen would command the larger price tag. Allen is the key to Liverpool, Ramsey is an understudy to Wilshire

Bale was targeted as he is probably the best winger in the world.

All opinions, I know jacks who were happy to see Allen go, he couldn't defend, he wasn't strong enough. Often being thrown off the ball. Their opinions. You can't say that Allen would command a larger transfer fee because you are not a manager of a football club. Before Ramsey broke his leg, I would disagree with you. He was on fire. The two often played together on occasions. He hasn't been back to that form since but he is getting there. Bale was targeted because he is an excellent winger, I agree. But he was also targeted because spurs failed to reach the champions league.

All opinions, I know jacks who were happy to see Allen go, he couldn't defend, he wasn't strong enough. Often being thrown off the ball. Their opinions. You can't say that Allen would command a larger transfer fee because you are not a manager of a football club. Before Ramsey broke his leg, I would disagree with you. He was on fire. The two often played together on occasions. He hasn't been back to that form since but he is getting there. Bale was targeted because he is an excellent winger, I agree. But he was also targeted because spurs failed to reach the champions league.

what? Allen is a defensive midfielder, his strength was breaking up the play and keeping possession. To say he can't defend is incredible.

In terms of transfer fees, Allen has just gone for £15 million. There is no way Ramsey would go for that.

All opinions, I know jacks who were happy to see Allen go, he couldn't defend, he wasn't strong enough. Often being thrown off the ball. Their opinions. You can't say that Allen would command a larger transfer fee because you are not a manager of a football club. Before Ramsey broke his leg, I would disagree with you. He was on fire. The two often played together on occasions. He hasn't been back to that form since but he is getting there. Bale was targeted because he is an excellent winger, I agree. But he was also targeted because spurs failed to reach the champions league.

what? Allen is a defensive midfielder, his strength was breaking up the play and keeping possession. To say he can't defend is incredible.

In terms of transfer fees, Allen has just gone for £15 million. There is no way Ramsey would go for that.

Just saying what jack mates of mine think of him, I would say he more of a passing midfielder who kept things simple and let more attack minded players get on the ball. Yes you are correct he went for 15 million, but you can't say that any jack would have taken that as that was an exaggeration of his value. You should know why Ramsey went for 5 million being a Cardiff fan.

All opinions, I know jacks who were happy to see Allen go, he couldn't defend, he wasn't strong enough. Often being thrown off the ball. Their opinions. You can't say that Allen would command a larger transfer fee because you are not a manager of a football club. Before Ramsey broke his leg, I would disagree with you. He was on fire. The two often played together on occasions. He hasn't been back to that form since but he is getting there. Bale was targeted because he is an excellent winger, I agree. But he was also targeted because spurs failed to reach the champions league.

what? Allen is a defensive midfielder, his strength was breaking up the play and keeping possession. To say he can't defend is incredible.

In terms of transfer fees, Allen has just gone for £15 million. There is no way Ramsey would go for that.

Just saying what jack mates of mine think of him, I would say he more of a passing midfielder who kept things simple and let more attack minded players get on the ball. Yes you are correct he went for 15 million, but you can't say that any jack would have taken that as that was an exaggeration of his value. You should know why Ramsey went for 5 million being a Cardiff fan.

Well id suggest they know naff all about football then.

As for Ramseys £5m fee, that didn't even enter my thinking. You are on,y worth what someone is will g to pay n an open market. I'm confident Ramsey wouldn't be anywhere near £15m if put up for sale.

All opinions, I know jacks who were happy to see Allen go, he couldn't defend, he wasn't strong enough. Often being thrown off the ball. Their opinions. You can't say that Allen would command a larger transfer fee because you are not a manager of a football club. Before Ramsey broke his leg, I would disagree with you. He was on fire. The two often played together on occasions. He hasn't been back to that form since but he is getting there. Bale was targeted because he is an excellent winger, I agree. But he was also targeted because spurs failed to reach the champions league.

what? Allen is a defensive midfielder, his strength was breaking up the play and keeping possession. To say he can't defend is incredible.

In terms of transfer fees, Allen has just gone for £15 million. There is no way Ramsey would go for that.

Just saying what jack mates of mine think of him, I would say he more of a passing midfielder who kept things simple and let more attack minded players get on the ball. Yes you are correct he went for 15 million, but you can't say that any jack would have taken that as that was an exaggeration of his value. You should know why Ramsey went for 5 million being a Cardiff fan.

Well id suggest they know naff all about football then.

As for Ramseys £5m fee, that didn't even enter my thinking. You are on,y worth what someone is will g to pay n an open market. I'm confident Ramsey wouldn't be anywhere near £15m if put up for sale.

Well they watch them on a regular basis where as you don't so I take their opinion as a good source. If we were in a better financial position, then I'm sure Ramsey would have gone for more even back then. In today's market? Who knows.

Well they are the only jacks to think Allen couldn't defend

Go mention that on planetswans, they will laugh you out of town. Or maybe try red and white kop, I'm sure you will get a similar response

Or just be happy listening to your jack mates

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These stats suggest he is one of the best defensive midfielders in he prem, beating the likes of yaya toure in ground duels won, only second to Ramirez and cabaye.

Well they are the only jacks to think Allen couldn't defend

Go mention that on planetswans, they will laugh you out of town. Or maybe try red and white kop, I'm sure you will get a similar response

Or just be happy listening to your jack mates

Why would I go on planet swans? I have no interest to go other teams forums. I shall, as I trust their opinion. Not a closet jack pretending to be a Cardiff fan.