Jimmy Saville

Got to ask why wait for him to die before making these allegations ? The man cannot defend himself now, And what are the alleged victims going to get from it apart from the obvious "money"
You got one associate who now says he saw him take a 12 year old girl to his room FFS if that was true he would of stopped it. Some saying he was all to powerfull to do anything about it, he hasn't been powerfull since the 80s so that don't hold up.
But now there is only one person he has to answer to and he is either in peace or in hell.
But if true those that knew and said nothing should be in the dock.

The victims can have closure and a sense of justice in fact that he will be knows as a paedo for all eternity rather than the saint he was portrayed to be.

But he is not here to defend himself. It just isn't right to convict someone when they are dead. If it was indeed true, and those that knew about it !! They should hold there heads in shame.

So hitler wasn't guilty either in your eyes and not a bad word should be spoken about him?

Got to ask why wait for him to die before making these allegations ? The man cannot defend himself now, And what are the alleged victims going to get from it apart from the obvious "money"
You got one associate who now says he saw him take a 12 year old girl to his room FFS if that was true he would of stopped it. Some saying he was all to powerfull to do anything about it, he hasn't been powerfull since the 80s so that don't hold up.
But now there is only one person he has to answer to and he is either in peace or in hell.
But if true those that knew and said nothing should be in the dock.

The victims can have closure and a sense of justice in fact that he will be knows as a paedo for all eternity rather than the saint he was portrayed to be.

But he is not here to defend himself. It just isn't right to convict someone when they are dead. If it was indeed true, and those that knew about it !! They should hold there heads in shame.

So hitler wasn't guilty either in your eyes and not a bad word should be spoken about him?

Hitler wasn't exactly shy about what he was doing was he?
What an awful comparison...

Got to ask why wait for him to die before making these allegations ? The man cannot defend himself now, And what are the alleged victims going to get from it apart from the obvious "money"
You got one associate who now says he saw him take a 12 year old girl to his room FFS if that was true he would of stopped it. Some saying he was all to powerfull to do anything about it, he hasn't been powerfull since the 80s so that don't hold up.
But now there is only one person he has to answer to and he is either in peace or in hell.
But if true those that knew and said nothing should be in the dock.

The victims can have closure and a sense of justice in fact that he will be knows as a paedo for all eternity rather than the saint he was portrayed to be.

But he is not here to defend himself. It just isn't right to convict someone when they are dead. If it was indeed true, and those that knew about it !! They should hold there heads in shame.

So hitler wasn't guilty either in your eyes and not a bad word should be spoken about him?

Hitler was guilty and committed suicide to stop himself facing justice. If you want to use a comparison use a decent one Chief. If he is guilty then i hope he is in hell now.

I think tens of witness statements and victims not to mention friends testimonials is pretty damning... Don't you?

I think tens of witness statements and victims not to mention friends testimonials is pretty damning... Don't you?

Quite probably(let's ignore the Hitler comparison), but the point remains, why did these testimonials only surface now? Reading Esther Rantzen yesterday made my blood boil, this is the woman behind worthy causes such as childline sitting there saying that she should have said something before? FFS, too right she should have. As for that Paul Gambaccini "I've been waiting for this to come out for 30 years!!!", why didn't he expose it?

If there is any truth in this (Which seems likely judging by the media reaction) then there are a lot of people who should be taking a long hard look at themselves right now. Why did they wait till he was gone? "Oh, he held a lot of power!" Not good enough sorry!

I think tens of witness statements and victims not to mention friends testimonials is pretty damning... Don't you?

Quite probably(let's ignore the Hitler comparison), but the point remains, why did these testimonials only surface now? Reading Esther Rantzen yesterday made my blood boil, this is the woman behind worthy causes such as childline sitting there saying that she should have said something before? FFS, too right she should have. As for that Paul Gambaccini "I've been waiting for this to come out for 30 years!!!", why didn't he expose it?

If there is any truth in this (Which seems likely judging by the media reaction) then there are a lot of people who should be taking a long hard look at themselves right now. Why did they wait till he was gone? "Oh, he held a lot of power!" Not good enough sorry!

I was making the point that a trial isn't necessary to be pretty sure someone is guilty.

There is no excuse as far as everyone being quiet apart from cowardice. They didn't want to be the ones responsible for millions of pounds drying up to needy charities especially with no guarantee he would be found guilty as tends to be the case with this kind of crime. As for the bbc, he was their cash cow back then, it would have been a major blow for their company.

Awful really.

No smoke without fire in this case as far as I'm concerned

And in response to people who say that it's disgusting bringing this out now because he can't defend him self because he's dead. If I was Jimmy Saville, I'd rather it came out after my death rather than having to deal with a very large pile if shit hitting a very big fan

Why did they not bring this up when he was alive?

Remember the judges words when DJ was tried. "No smoke no fire."

I hate how a person can have their reputation battered so easily.

I think tens of witness statements and victims not to mention friends testimonials is pretty damning... Don't you?

Quite probably(let's ignore the Hitler comparison), but the point remains, why did these testimonials only surface now? Reading Esther Rantzen yesterday made my blood boil, this is the woman behind worthy causes such as childline sitting there saying that she should have said something before? FFS, too right she should have. As for that Paul Gambaccini "I've been waiting for this to come out for 30 years!!!", why didn't he expose it?

If there is any truth in this (Which seems likely judging by the media reaction) then there are a lot of people who should be taking a long hard look at themselves right now. Why did they wait till he was gone? "Oh, he held a lot of power!" Not good enough sorry!

I was making the point that a trial isn't necessary to be pretty sure someone is guilty.

There is no excuse as far as everyone being quiet apart from cowardice. They didn't want to be the ones responsible for millions of pounds drying up to needy charities especially with no guarantee he would be found guilty as tends to be the case with this kind of crime. As for the bbc, he was their cash cow back then, it would have been a major blow for their company.

Awful really.

Roath, that is pretty much bang on.

Saville was a money machine as far as the charities are concerned. Another example of the corrupting power of the pound/dollar.

The worst example of course, being what goes on in hollywood.

It's frightening they say 1/20 of us live next door to a peadophile well not me !! I live next door to a 14 year old girl with a cracking pair of tits

It's frightening they say 1/20 of us live next door to a peadophile well not me !! I live next door to a 14 year old girl with a cracking pair of tits

I know I shouldn't but...

It's frightening they say 1/20 of us live next door to a peadophile well not me !! I live next door to a 14 year old girl with a cracking pair of tits

Can you enlighten us all my dear Roathblue33 as to what a pedophile might look like??

Like Jimmy Saville...

I'd be careful what you type about this subject chaps, as his family may well end up seeing this thread!

I'm not sure if he still has family in the area, but I remember his brother used to be a DJ at East Glamorgan hospital many years ago!

Of course you don't have to live in any specific area to be able to read messages on the internet and it's a very sensitive issue!

As he has never been convicted of any alleged offences, you could well end up being persued through a civil court!

He was a peado - look forward to the civil case .

I think tens of witness statements and victims not to mention friends testimonials is pretty damning... Don't you?

Quite probably(let's ignore the Hitler comparison), but the point remains, why did these testimonials only surface now? Reading Esther Rantzen yesterday made my blood boil, this is the woman behind worthy causes such as childline sitting there saying that she should have said something before? FFS, too right she should have. As for that Paul Gambaccini "I've been waiting for this to come out for 30 years!!!", why didn't he expose it?

If there is any truth in this (Which seems likely judging by the media reaction) then there are a lot of people who should be taking a long hard look at themselves right now. Why did they wait till he was gone? "Oh, he held a lot of power!" Not good enough sorry!

Because people don't have the bollocks for an outing , rather tow the party line .

It's frightening they say 1/20 of us live next door to a peadophile well not me !! I live next door to a 14 year old girl with a cracking pair of tits

Like Jimmy Saville...

It's frightening they say 1/20 of us live next door to a peadophile well not me !! I live next door to a 14 year old girl with a cracking pair of tits