Heiðar Helguson....

I'm not his biggest fan. Seems to think his job is to just win flick ons. He should be looking to get into scoring positions, after all he's alleged to be a striker.

No offence but i find this quite ridiculous.

He cant hold the ball up, drag defenders out, tie up a centre half, link up with our
GOALSCORING midfielders AND be in the 6 yard box all at once. He is grafting to
give the flair players more room in the final third. ITS WORKING. Miller would have
been just as capable except.... we didnt have the flair players last season

I'm not his biggest fan. Seems to think his job is to just win flick ons. He should be looking to get into scoring positions, after all he's alleged to be a striker.

No offence but i find this quite ridiculous.

He cant hold the ball up, drag defenders out, tie up a centre half, link up with our
GOALSCORING midfielders AND be in the 6 yard box all at once. He is grafting to
give the flair players more room in the final third. ITS WORKING. Miller would have
been just as capable except.... we didnt have the flair players last season

taffyapple, not worth the hassle mate. Some on here would expect him to be the British Falcao.

Helguson mentally is brilliant. He is so clever, he draws defenders out letting the wingers and Whittingham get into position where they have time. Its something Bothroyd on a good day used to do. Helguson is more consistent at the job he was signed to do whereas Bothroyd would score goals. The sad thing is some of our fans can't realise you can't have it both ways unless you spend stupid amounts of money, money we don't have and most of the Premiership don't have. Every team that has gone up in recent years has had an intelligent striker over the years allowing midfielders to do their bit.

Newcastle - Carroll was intelligent at this level. He'd force pressure on other teams back line and allow the ball to drop into space on the edge of the box for the midfielders.

West Ham - Cole did the same job. His intelligence making runs and dragging players out left space for others. He may not be amazing at Prem level but his intelligence at this level was brilliant.

Holt - Did the same leaving space for the likes of Hoolahan.

Borini at Swansea - Ran in behind teams back lines dragging defenders out which meant Sinclair and Dyer could cut in and Sigurdsson could have shots on goal.

Reading the same with Long - He did the same job as Borini to be honest allowing space for the likes of McAnuff and Kebe and the others.

Lambert at Southampton creating space for Lallana and the other guy on the other wing, forgot his name. The list goes on.

So lets be honest here. Helguson is massively important to our title bid. He does all the donkey work which opens up space for others, especially Whittingham and Noone who seem to love having time on the ball and being able to plan their assaults on opposing teams defences.

This wasn't a dig at taffyapple btw.

lol .. the fact u have just compared him to the likes of lambert long cole carroll holt and borini is actually laughable , those strikers were all banging the goals in for fun , heidar cant get near the goal hes so slow and when he has had a chance he usually fluffs it , if u want someone to just put a bit of pressure on the centre backs to create space we can just go sign some big cart horse from the welsh league and pay him peanuts to do just that , not saying the guy hasnt had a good career but hes clearly past it , and we should have spent 1m on a decent target man not some unknown Slovenian who sits on the bench , so much talent in this team and HH is our weak link with a decent target man we would be even more dangerous .. trust me a few loses and youll all be booing him , your just blinded now as we won the game

lol .. the fact u have just compared him to the likes of lambert long cole carroll holt and borini is actually laughable , those strikers were all banging the goals in for fun , heidar cant get near the goal hes so slow and when he has had a chance he usually fluffs it , if u want someone to just put a bit of pressure on the centre backs to create space we can just go sign some big cart horse from the welsh league and pay him peanuts to do just that , not saying the guy hasnt had a good career but hes clearly past it , and we should have spent 1m on a decent target man not some unknown Slovenian who sits on the bench , so much talent in this team and HH is our weak link with a decent target man we would be even more dangerous .. trust me a few loses and youll all be booing him , your just blinded now as we won the game

Love the way you have decided any future loses are down to HH

A LOT of fans who use players as scapegoats dont have a clue about anything football.
They must watch match of the day and think they know it all..

I was going to comment about how Helguson has been doing the dirty work but it seems common sense has just about prevailed in this thread. Fans having a go at players after a 3-0 win? Where's the mute button?!

Like dave said last season we had Miller he could do the same job as HH the only diffrence is this season we got flair players fast wingers and so on so it dont look so bad on HH, i dont think hes that good at all seem many of players who can hold the ball up, but thats my personal opinion. As for the fans saying " we won 3-0 or scapegoat" talk i've been saying HH aint up to it since day one, its not about today or past results its just an opinion on one man in the team

Helguson did fairly well today in my opinion, but I do feel for Velikonja.

How Cowie gets the nod to come on ahead of a £1m+ striker who needs time on the pitch is beyond me.

I think I'm right in saying that just one striker (Mason) has scored for us in the league this season. The rest of the goals have come courtesy of Whittingham, Noone, Cowie, Bellamy, Hudson and Connolly. With Maynard now out for a while, we need to find our next goalscoring striker.

Exactly the point I was making but obviously people felt the need to insult and tell everyone that anybody who mentioned it knows nothing about football. For some reason they thought it was slagging off Helgusson or suggesting Mason should be played in that role. In actual fact, I also mentioned that it was Cowie that should have remained on the bench and Etien brought on for a run out and that Mason looked liberated when Helgusson went off and started to make the runs he was making last season. Nothing to do with slagging off Helgusson at all, but hey ho, why let the facts get in the way of shooting someone down to make yourself look more knowledgeable.

Cardiff fans are not f*cking happy unless they're having a negative dig at one of our own players!

Unbelievable really....

Win, lose or draw and there's always a player they have to pick on.

lol .. the fact u have just compared him to the likes of lambert long cole carroll holt and borini is actually laughable , those strikers were all banging the goals in for fun , heidar cant get near the goal hes so slow and when he has had a chance he usually fluffs it , if u want someone to just put a bit of pressure on the centre backs to create space we can just go sign some big cart horse from the welsh league and pay him peanuts to do just that , not saying the guy hasnt had a good career but hes clearly past it , and we should have spent 1m on a decent target man not some unknown Slovenian who sits on the bench , so much talent in this team and HH is our weak link with a decent target man we would be even more dangerous .. trust me a few loses and youll all be booing him , your just blinded now as we won the game

There, in a nutshell, is your knowledge of football.

Its all about KNOWING where to run, when to run, who is free, where you can
open up the channels. When to hold the ball, when to release the ball.

Your saying we could just get Dai L'affin from TNS Llanfairwallabadongy to
do all of the above.?

Clueless!!

I think he is a right handful and keeps the centre backs occupied.
He is doing a sound job in my opinion

Totally agree, he doesn't stop running.

I think we have a tiny team that can could get bullied (or physically over powered) so the physical presence that draws in the two centre halfs is needed.

I can't wait to see Rudy fill this role as he wins more in the air and is far quicker..... I am not joking, Malky see him in training and gave him an contract extension.

The fact that malky rates helguson is dangerous,

he could cost us promotion if bellamy gets injured and he chooses to go with helguson 4-5-1 whilest we have both maynard and bellers out ,

I'm not his biggest fan. Seems to think his job is to just win flick ons. He should be looking to get into scoring positions, after all he's alleged to be a striker.

No offence but i find this quite ridiculous.

He cant hold the ball up, drag defenders out, tie up a centre half, link up with our
GOALSCORING midfielders AND be in the 6 yard box all at once. He is grafting to
give the flair players more room in the final third. ITS WORKING. Miller would have
been just as capable except.... we didnt have the flair players last season

Well said

What do our moaning fans want?? Ah i know, we can go and sign Benzema from Madrid!! for what we paid and the league we are in Helguson is a cracking player at doing his job.

lol .. the fact u have just compared him to the likes of lambert long cole carroll holt and borini is actually laughable , those strikers were all banging the goals in for fun , heidar cant get near the goal hes so slow and when he has had a chance he usually fluffs it , if u want someone to just put a bit of pressure on the centre backs to create space we can just go sign some big cart horse from the welsh league and pay him peanuts to do just that , not saying the guy hasnt had a good career but hes clearly past it , and we should have spent 1m on a decent target man not some unknown Slovenian who sits on the bench , so much talent in this team and HH is our weak link with a decent target man we would be even more dangerous .. trust me a few loses and youll all be booing him , your just blinded now as we won the game

There, in a nutshell, is your knowledge of football.

Its all about KNOWING where to run, when to run, who is free, where you can
open up the channels. When to hold the ball, when to release the ball.

Your saying we could just get Dai L'affin from TNS Llanfairwallabadongy to
do all of the above.?

Clueless!!

We need a target man.

Bellers, Noone, Smith, Conway,Harris (if he ever gets a game) are small, the centre half need to worry about losing headers, if they are not then they will push right up and deny Whitts or Mutch time and space in the midfild.

Why I like Rudy is that with the ammunition around him the flick ons (generally undirected) can fall into the space where the speedsters can pounce.. To combat this the defensive line drops giving our superstar time on the ball.

Teams sussed us last season and pushed so high Whitts had to take the ball from the centre halfs as kenny couldn't win a header. I don't think Joe (never seen Etien play) can play this role either and I worry if Helguson gets injured.

has anyone got evidence of all these headers HH wins then? lol i think the ball touched his head once all game yesturday , shortest target man in the football league

has anyone got evidence of all these headers HH wins then? lol i think the ball touched his head once all game yesturday , shortest target man in the football league

yes. its called watching the team you support.

He did the job he was asked to today.. get off his back why do fans need a scapegoat

Agreed

Believe me our flair players can't play their game without a battering ram like helguson. I hate to abuse but ppl abusing him obviously don't understand football. He was a premier league player for a reason. His experience is valuable. If you'd rather see us hoof balls to Bellamy in the air and give the possession straight back then I'm sure malky wouldn't be in a job much longer. Fantastic performance by helga and the team!! Bloooobirds

Spot on. Against Huddersfield we ran out of ideas and resorted to hoofing the ball up to Helguson and he literally single handedly won us that game. Helguson is a warrior and centre backs must hate playing against him. We would not be able to get into attacking positions without Helguson winning his battles against the centre backs. He wins the majority of headers, links the play and allows Bellamy, Smith, Noone etc to get forwards. The poster mentioning Taarabt having space because of Helguson was bang on. If Helguson wasn't playing, we would be losing possession a lot more and the ball would be coming back at us more often. It seems some of our fans think if a player doesn't run around a lot he's shit. Well watch Helguson closely and he does more running than you realise and he wins his physical battles, he must be a joy for Maynard, Bellamy, Mason etc to play alongside.

Fans wank over Pacey strikers and dig at the target men.