Why did we move from Ninian Park?

Are you for real mate? Why does it take for Gwyn to spell it out to you? Ninian park was a joke in the end. We are not in the 50's anymore. It was holding us back big time.
Yes the place was full of great moments in our history but it was time to move on.
Look back mate but don't stare.

Maybe its just nostalgia pal. I thought we could do a similar thing to Blackpool. Was unaware of the health and safety issues with Ninian Park.

Can't believe no one has put up the real reasons.


We had to get special dispensation off the League to allow standing at the stadium, this was given on a temporary basis because we had a new stadium in the pipeline, if not our capacity would have been limited to 11,000.

the stadium was refused permission to add extra seats, for a number of reasons, one being everyone had to exit on to one road, and if there had been an emergency under health and safety laws, we could not have emptied the stadium and got people away from there in the required time allowed.

So, we could have stayed there, in an all seater stadium that had a capacity of 11,000, don't think that would have been progress, but hey, what the f**k do i know.

Didn't bother because the thread is a joke anyway from someone looking for bites.

How is it? Blackpool seemed to cope in the Premiership after reconstruction. I was just wondering why we couldn't do the same. Gwyn has cleared that up and now I know it was most likely due to health and safety laws.

blackpool were already doing bloomfield rd up outside the prem.when they went up the side/away stand was knocked up sharpish.it looks at odds with the rest of the ground.the other 3 sides were already up.they did bits at a time.good explanation from gywn.there was no choice to be made .you had to leave n.p

Can't believe no one has put up the real reasons.


We had to get special dispensation off the League to allow standing at the stadium, this was given on a temporary basis because we had a new stadium in the pipeline, if not our capacity would have been limited to 11,000.

the stadium was refused permission to add extra seats, for a number of reasons, one being everyone had to exit on to one road, and if there had been an emergency under health and safety laws, we could not have emptied the stadium and got people away from there in the required time allowed.

So, we could have stayed there, in an all seater stadium that had a capacity of 11,000, don't think that would have been progress, but hey, what the f**k do i know.

Didn't bother because the thread is a joke anyway from someone looking for bites.

How is it? Blackpool seemed to cope in the Premiership after reconstruction. I was just wondering why we couldn't do the same. Gwyn has cleared that up and now I know it was most likely due to health and safety laws.

blackpool were already doing bloomfield rd up outside the prem.when they went up the side/away stand was knocked up sharpish.it looks at odds with the rest of the ground.the other 3 sides were already up.they did bits at a time.good explanation from gywn.there was no choice to be made .you had to leave n.p

Okay. Cheers mate.

Blackpool don't have the fan base whatever ground. Not in debt because they went up.

Prob didnt stay up because income was low from shit stadium.

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

We dont agree very often, but your virtually spot on and due to the new laws of safety ect, Ninian Park needed more exits and another road out, if we were to of increased the capacity.

But I really miss Ninian Park.

For me, Ninian Park will always be the home of Cardiff City. The new ground and the fans it's attracted are just not comparable. But everything must die, eventually.

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

We dont agree very often, but your virtually spot on and due to the new laws of safety ect, Ninian Park needed more exits and another road out, if we were to of increased the capacity.

But I really miss Ninian Park.

funny enough i dont! only because i couldnt see game very well after seats were put in!! when on bob bank couldnt see when standing me to small!! and in grand stand post in way and people obstructing view ten mins before/after half time and 5mins before end total pain in ass for me! but loved the atmosphere!

Blackpool don't have the fan base whatever ground. Not in debt because they went up.

Prob didnt stay up because income was low from shit stadium.

they have around 10-15k who could /would go if in prem.they should have loads of money as the fans reckon k.o has short arms and long pockets.they reckon he could peel an orange in his pocket .funny really as it,s a big town but it,s full of loads of diff kind of people.some are of the type that don,t typically do football.

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

We dont agree very often, but your virtually spot on and due to the new laws of safety ect, Ninian Park needed more exits and another road out, if we were to of increased the capacity.

But I really miss Ninian Park.

funny enough i dont! only because i couldnt see game very well after seats were put in!! when on bob bank couldnt see when standing me to small!! and in grand stand post in way and people obstructing view ten mins before/after half time and 5mins before end total pain in ass for me! but loved the atmosphere!

Yes there were many areas with a bad view.
I miss the atmosphere and the passion from our fans.

Yes it was a shithole, but as a 10-13 year old boy I loved it. Sure you couldn't see half the time but the atmosphere was fantastic, the smells were iconic and it felt like a football ground to me.
I would have loved it if I could have gone there at my current age as I sing and abuse players more often now.

I'll never forget those old manually operated turnstiles and the sound they made though.

Yes it was a shithole, but as a 10-13 year old boy I loved it. Sure you couldn't see half the time but the atmosphere was fantastic, the smells were iconic and it felt like a football ground to me.
I would have loved it if I could have gone there at my current age as I sing and abuse players more often now.

I'll never forget those old manually operated turnstiles and the sound they made though.

Correct, there was something special about Ninian Park and it was a shithole, but our shithole. I fell in love with the ground in 1972, became my second home.

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

We dont agree very often, but your virtually spot on and due to the new laws of safety ect, Ninian Park needed more exits and another road out, if we were to of increased the capacity.

But I really miss Ninian Park.

funny enough i dont! only because i couldnt see game very well after seats were put in!! when on bob bank couldnt see when standing me to small!! and in grand stand post in way and people obstructing view ten mins before/after half time and 5mins before end total pain in ass for me! but loved the atmosphere!

Yes there were many areas with a bad view.
I miss the atmosphere and the passion from our fans.

god yes so many memories had to leave madrid game before end game so many packed in got crushed! at moment think its way we been playing thats not helping atmosphere it was decidely better sunday though! also did make point that perhaps instead of one stand for families why not have several smaller areas around ground so more all round noise! but keep same amount seats for kids

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

a lot of new grounds get built out of town now.the o/b love it as they funnel coaches straight off the motorway and put people in a pub/area that,s been purposely put close to the ground so they can keep the majority in one place.a lot of grounds in town centre have roads around them that were built for the traffic of the time when the ground was built.i went to cov last week.straight off mway down a wide new built rd.park up on a retail carpark and bang we,re in the ground.tbf the rioch is a good ground for a new un.if blues ever really get big we,d need to leave st andrews.rail track behind one end too.houses and flats around two more sides.doubt we,ll be need planning permission for a new stadiam for a few years yet then

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

a lot of new grounds get built out of town now.the o/b love it as they funnel coaches straight off the motorway and put people in a pub/area that,s been purposely put close to the ground so they can keep the majority in one place.a lot of grounds in town centre have roads around them that were built for the traffic of the time when the ground was built.i went to cov last week.straight off mway down a wide new built rd.park up on a retail carpark and bang we,re in the ground.tbf the rioch is a good ground for a new un.if blues ever really get big we,d need to leave st andrews.rail track behind one end too.houses and flats around two more sides.doubt we,ll be need planning permission for a new stadiam for a few years yet then

yes we were lucky just moving across rd ! but actuallly original plan in 1970s was to locate to where the athletic stadium is
now! only took 40yrs to build new stdm!!!

Yes it was a shithole, but as a 10-13 year old boy I loved it. Sure you couldn't see half the time but the atmosphere was fantastic, the smells were iconic and it felt like a football ground to me.
I would have loved it if I could have gone there at my current age as I sing and abuse players more often now.

I'll never forget those old manually operated turnstiles and the sound they made though.

This.

The place was enthralling and after every game you just wanted another to kick off straight away there and then.

Ninian Park was an awesome place. Once the game started and the fans got into voice and it turned into a hell hole for the opposition you forgot about the crap toilets and other facilities.

what hasnt been mentioned and main reason for not refurbish ninian was the fact that there was houseing on 2sides plus main rd on other and land behind bob bank owned by network rail! we would have had to perchase x amount houses to knock down re route sloper rd, and bought land off rail if they let us! was never going to happen thats why wasnt rebuilt!

a lot of new grounds get built out of town now.the o/b love it as they funnel coaches straight off the motorway and put people in a pub/area that,s been purposely put close to the ground so they can keep the majority in one place.a lot of grounds in town centre have roads around them that were built for the traffic of the time when the ground was built.i went to cov last week.straight off mway down a wide new built rd.park up on a retail carpark and bang we,re in the ground.tbf the rioch is a good ground for a new un.if blues ever really get big we,d need to leave st andrews.rail track behind one end too.houses and flats around two more sides.doubt we,ll be need planning permission for a new stadiam for a few years yet then

True. Readings is very similar. Not many smaller roads you have to go to to watch a game there. Very easy to park by the stadium as well and a few minutes walk and you're right there.

Reason 3 it would have cost us about 1.5 mill a year in lost ticket revenue

The new stadium cost £48m to build.

A reconstruction job would have cost a bit so its not exactly that figure but will still take over 10 years to balance out. That is a very long time and we could have had a lot longer at Ninian Park.

Funny how Blackpool didn't splash out on a new stadium and also aren't riddled with debt like us.

The new stadium didn`t cost the club anything like £48m to build.

Because of the money the retail developers had to pay for their land which went towards the cost , and the Council letting the club keep most of the proceeds of sale of Ninian Park to Redrow , the cost to the club was just over £26m.

Is this the old 'RedBluebird', the fat Aberystwyth student?

Is this the old 'RedBluebird', the fat Aberystwyth student?

Yes, the Welsh elephant man.

Can't believe no one has put up the real reasons.


We had to get special dispensation off the League to allow standing at the stadium, this was given on a temporary basis because we had a new stadium in the pipeline, if not our capacity would have been limited to 11,000.

the stadium was refused permission to add extra seats, for a number of reasons, one being everyone had to exit on to one road, and if there had been an emergency under health and safety laws, we could not have emptied the stadium and got people away from there in the required time allowed.

So, we could have stayed there, in an all seater stadium that had a capacity of 11,000, don't think that would have been progress, but hey, what the f**k do i know.

Didn't bother because the thread is a joke anyway from someone looking for bites.

How is it? Blackpool seemed to cope in the Premiership after reconstruction. I was just wondering why we couldn't do the same. Gwyn has cleared that up and now I know it was most likely due to health and safety laws.

Blackpool (to their credit) never aspired to be bigger than they were. Their attitude was
always 'enjoy it while we can'... and they did. and they are back where they thought they
might be twelve months later

Cardiff City have ambitions to stay in the Premiership for a lot longer than one season.

The Jacks fill their concrete box every home game. The jacks, who were in the bottom
third of supported clubs in the Championship two seasons ago.

As has been pointed out. NP capacity would have been down to 11,000. and the authorities
were dying to see it pulled down anyway

I know we had to move for all the reasons given but by f**k I miss the place. Going to watch football at home is not the same for me and never will be again.

We can't even fill the Cardiff City Stadium.

Surely it would have been better to wait for the demand from the fans and then increase the capacity.

Arsenal had an annual waiting list for season ticket holders, basically, a back log so their move made sense as they had people there ready waiting to purchase a seat in the new stadium.

We didn't have that. Would rather 10,000 less people go to the game and for it to be packed. Obviously, because of regulations, the standing areas would have to be changed to seating so less would fit in. I'd reckon Ninian Park would be around 16,000 fully seated. That would still be better than the current situation. Thousands of fans less attending but we wouldn't have had the cost of the stadium, only refurbishments. People who desperately wanted to go would have bought season tickets and others would have bought early. A packed Ninian Park was mesmerising.

Has to be one of the most stupid decisions in the history of football.

This must be the most stupid post that I have seen, this is a wind up surely??????????

Reason 3 it would have cost us about 1.5 mill a year in lost ticket revenue

The new stadium cost £48m to build.

A reconstruction job would have cost a bit so its not exactly that figure but will still take over 10 years to balance out. That is a very long time and we could have had a lot longer at Ninian Park.

Funny how Blackpool didn't splash out on a new stadium and also aren't riddled with debt like us.

Blackpool will never be supported in the numbers that Cardiff will.

Can't believe no one has put up the real reasons.


We had to get special dispensation off the League to allow standing at the stadium, this was given on a temporary basis because we had a new stadium in the pipeline, if not our capacity would have been limited to 11,000.

the stadium was refused permission to add extra seats, for a number of reasons, one being everyone had to exit on to one road, and if there had been an emergency under health and safety laws, we could not have emptied the stadium and got people away from there in the required time allowed.

So, we could have stayed there, in an all seater stadium that had a capacity of 11,000, don't think that would have been progress, but hey, what the f**k do i know.

Didn't bother because the thread is a joke anyway from someone looking for bites.

Jack- wouldn't be surprised if Roath Magic has been allowed back on under his 2nd name.... (again!)

Something he would have had at least some knowledge of if he was a real fan.Don't forget everyone its the bites that give him a hard-on,not the subject matter.

Nobody can say that they miss the bogs though surely

To move with the times.

To move with the times.

Spot on.

We are still at Ninian Park and get promoted this season....then what? Expand and upgrade Ninian? (no can do), build new stadium? (now we gotta wait years and lose millions upon millions anyway).

You're looking at this too one dimensional.


My only regret about the new stadium is how shit it is.....id rather have held out a few more years to get funding for the right kind of stadium for Cardiff City.

My only regret about the new stadium is how shit it is.....id rather have held out a few more years to get funding for the right kind of stadium for Cardiff City.

They did build it for the CCFC they want going forward - less intimitdating, family friendly, away fans tucked far away.

The club and Nashy would love to get rid of the type of fan we had at NP

All the things we associate with NP being great sadly the mordern football club want rid of