THE MALAYSIAN SNIPERS HAVE ALL GONE QUIET LATELY

No west ham fan can call us a circus when u got the porn bros and brady running u!

Class acts mate all the way through. Tell me what they have actually done wrong ?

Dont you like porn ? Dont you like the fact that they are managing the debt after the club was fucked up by foreigners

Dont you like the fact they stopped a Malaysian " playboy" trying to take over ?

Dont you like the fact --- we stuck with claret and blue ?

Come on Craig ---- lets hear why you think its a circus ? be an interesting debate .

To us they are most prob just another London Club way down the pecking order after Chelsea/ Arsenal/ Spurs/ Fulham, Steve.

No west ham fan can call us a circus when u got the porn bros and brady running u!

Class acts mate all the way through. Tell me what they have actually done wrong ?

Dont you like porn ? Dont you like the fact that they are managing the debt after the club was fucked up by foreigners

Dont you like the fact they stopped a Malaysian " playboy" trying to take over ?

Dont you like the fact --- we stuck with claret and blue ?

Come on Craig ---- lets hear why you think its a circus ? be an interesting debate .

Do you like the fact they are trying to get u out of upton park??

You believe they are sorting your debts by signing Andy Carroll on his wages??

They are no different to VT/TG...in it to make money

well, well, well dont you all look so stupid now .... they have probably delivered us the best cardiff city team of all-time and a bloody young team that could grow together for the next 5 years plus! ... they promised investment and as true as their word they delivered! .... now its up to malky to deliver the dream .... MESSAGE FOR FUTURE SNIPERS ..... MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE ENERMY IN YOUR SIGHTS BEFORE PULLING THE TRIGGER

Why would anyone go quiet and how do people look stupid? What have we won........ nothing. Ok we have assembled a quality squad agreed but according to the bookies we are only seventh in the championship pecking order. What we have achieved so far with all these new signings is to rack up more debt. As you accuse fans of looking stupid then I will remind you that it will be nothing compared to how stupid we will look if we fail to gain promotion and we are stuck in the championship having sold out.

No west ham fan can call us a circus when u got the porn bros and brady running u!

Class acts mate all the way through. Tell me what they have actually done wrong ?

Dont you like porn ? Dont you like the fact that they are managing the debt after the club was fucked up by foreigners

Dont you like the fact they stopped a Malaysian " playboy" trying to take over ?

Dont you like the fact --- we stuck with claret and blue ?

Come on Craig ---- lets hear why you think its a circus ? be an interesting debate .

Do you like the fact they are trying to get u out of upton park??

You believe they are sorting your debts by signing Andy Carroll on his wages??

They are no different to VT/TG...in it to make money

you haven't really answered why you think its a circus ? but lets get to your points anyway.

To be London's future largest Premiership Club --- we have no choice to move , we cant get more than 35,000 in .

Andy Carroll ---- what a fantastic bit of shrewd business , 1 million and paying his wages ----- for his quality ?? I would advise you to watch MOD tonight . 12 months ago he was 35 mill worth just joined a shit club !

Maynard sold to cover his wages --- an unproven prem player ---- sold with a buy back policy ? --- thats shrewd business in football, take Yossi , we even got Chelsea paying his wages!

So any chance of telling me why you think its a circus ? or don't you just like it ?

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

No west ham fan can call us a circus when u got the porn bros and brady running u!

Class acts mate all the way through. Tell me what they have actually done wrong ?

Dont you like porn ? Dont you like the fact that they are managing the debt after the club was fucked up by foreigners

Dont you like the fact they stopped a Malaysian " playboy" trying to take over ?

Dont you like the fact --- we stuck with claret and blue ?

Come on Craig ---- lets hear why you think its a circus ? be an interesting debate .

Do you like the fact they are trying to get u out of upton park??

You believe they are sorting your debts by signing Andy Carroll on his wages??

They are no different to VT/TG...in it to make money

you haven't really answered why you think its a circus ? but lets get to your points anyway.

To be London's future largest Premiership Club --- we have no choice to move , we cant get more than 35,000 in .

Andy Carroll ---- what a fantastic bit of shrewd business , 1 million and paying his wages ----- for his quality ?? I would advise you to watch MOD tonight . 12 months ago he was 35 mill worth just joined a shit club !

Maynard sold to cover his wages --- an unproven prem player ---- sold with a buy back policy ? --- thats shrewd business in football, take Yossi , we even got Chelsea paying his wages!

So any chance of telling me why you think its a circus ? or don't you just like it ?

Circus is enetertainment business, same as football.

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

Wasnt Sams money though was it!

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

True but Wayne i wouldnt worry on that score ---- once they rinse Hammam they will prob change that

No west ham fan can call us a circus when u got the porn bros and brady running u!

Class acts mate all the way through. Tell me what they have actually done wrong ?

Dont you like porn ? Dont you like the fact that they are managing the debt after the club was fucked up by foreigners

Dont you like the fact they stopped a Malaysian " playboy" trying to take over ?

Dont you like the fact --- we stuck with claret and blue ?

Come on Craig ---- lets hear why you think its a circus ? be an interesting debate .

Do you like the fact they are trying to get u out of upton park??

You believe they are sorting your debts by signing Andy Carroll on his wages??

They are no different to VT/TG...in it to make money

you haven't really answered why you think its a circus ? but lets get to your points anyway.

To be London's future largest Premiership Club --- we have no choice to move , we cant get more than 35,000 in .

Andy Carroll ---- what a fantastic bit of shrewd business , 1 million and paying his wages ----- for his quality ?? I would advise you to watch MOD tonight . 12 months ago he was 35 mill worth just joined a shit club !

Maynard sold to cover his wages --- an unproven prem player ---- sold with a buy back policy ? --- thats shrewd business in football, take Yossi , we even got Chelsea paying his wages!

So any chance of telling me why you think its a circus ? or don't you just like it ?

Circus is enetertainment business, same as football.

So because we changed our shirt colours around (which i hate by the way) you are calling us a circus??

Londons future largest club???? I cant take this seriously anymore

Lee i wonder if we will have a team to support in 5 years. I could go and get loans and by a luxurious lifestyle and my Wife and Boy would say "He is generous etc etc and we have everything we could want" But sooner all later i would have to pay it all back with bags of interest. Remember they have loaned us THEIR money fellas

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

Who's money have bought these players then? I know it's loans to the club, but without the loans we are relegated/liquidated.
10x worse than out of business is still just out of business.
We might as well go for £200mil as 10p.
At this moment in time, no TG/VT no Cardiff City. Fact.
I don't like it, but I dont have the backing they have to help the club. Do you?

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

Wasnt Sams money though was it!

That is my point.

Lee i wonder if we will have a team to support in 5 years. I could go and get loans and by a luxurious lifestyle and my Wife and Boy would say "He is generous etc etc and we have everything we could want" But sooner all later i would have to pay it all back with bags of interest. Remember they have loaned us THEIR money fellas

You need backing to get the loans for that Steve. VT and TG have that.

Besides, without THEIR loans we are fooked.

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

Wasnt Sams money though was it!

That is my point.

Makes no odds, they have backed us to get the players. They have put the money in. (allbeit as loans)
Without which we are fooked.
I am happy we still have a club.

We were fucked before they came, we'll be fucked if they leave!

£30m, £100m...whats the difference?

Lee i wonder if we will have a team to support in 5 years. I could go and get loans and by a luxurious lifestyle and my Wife and Boy would say "He is generous etc etc and we have everything we could want" But sooner all later i would have to pay it all back with bags of interest. Remember they have loaned us THEIR money fellas

You need backing to get the loans for that Steve. VT and TG have that.

Besides, without THEIR loans we are fooked.

For the short term yes Steve. For the long term loans never work if you are up to your eyes mate.

We were fucked before they came, we'll be fucked if they leave!

£30m, £100m...whats the difference?

So they have bought us time, n -one can argue that.


The difference is, they will not leave without getting their money back (or as much as they can) so have to make us a success.

We were fucked before they came, we'll be fucked if they leave!

£30m, £100m...whats the difference?

So they have bought us time, n -one can argue that.


The difference is, they will not leave without getting their money back (or as much as they can) so have to make us a success.

exactly

Lee i wonder if we will have a team to support in 5 years. I could go and get loans and by a luxurious lifestyle and my Wife and Boy would say "He is generous etc etc and we have everything we could want" But sooner all later i would have to pay it all back with bags of interest. Remember they have loaned us THEIR money fellas

You need backing to get the loans for that Steve. VT and TG have that.

Besides, without THEIR loans we are fooked.

For the short term yes Steve. For the long term loans never work if you are up to your eyes mate.

We were fooked though Steve.
They bought us time and given us a chance to make a go of it by adding more cash.
If we do go under, at least we had a go.

The same posters and so called"fans"who questioned if the Malaysians would make good of their word and back Malky during the window have been proved wrong. These same people then try to deflect it with the time honoured "yeah butt he's charging us 7% and it's all loans and he wants to eventually f**k us by closing the club down while losing money in the process". When the tedious subject of debt to equity gets completed there will be something else for these glass half empty saddos will find something else to groan about. The fact that Malky and the board have assembled the finest squad of players in the modern history of Cardiff City whilst in the last two and a half years keeping us not only afloat but improving all aspects of the clubs infrastructure doesn't mean that much to the grumblers. It's incredible how many have jumped on the debt bandwagon when nobody questioned the motives of Sam Hammam at the time of his spending sprees.

How many of these attend games and spend the two hours talking about the finances. Thank fuxk they're not sat next to me. I'm too busy supporting the team instead of boring someone to tears about accounting

Doesnt ring true any of this.

How can the Malaysian knockers spend one whole season slagging them off
for 'not backing the manager'

Then, when we are signing the best squad the Club has ever had.........

Tan is slagged off because the debt is getting bigger

How can he possibly win??

Debt to equity?

Here's the downside... He will own the Club pretty much lock, stock and barrel
and if he decided to asset strip and sell all the players, the amenities, facilities
Club Cars, hot dogs, Manager... and eventually.. the ground (oh yes)..... Nobody
could lift a finger to stop him.

I just thought I'd mention that, because when he DOES change debt to equity..that
will be the next attack on him. Be prepared vincent

The only way Tan will get everyone on board is to spend his own personal money on the
Club and promise to take the debt with him when he leaves. Yes we've heard that
one before. But Sam seemed to get away with it. People still believe him even now!

Lying through your teeth seems to work

The same posters and so called"fans"who questioned if the Malaysians would make good of their word and back Malky during the window have been proved wrong. These same people then try to deflect it with the time honoured "yeah butt he's charging us 7% and it's all loans and he wants to eventually f**k us by closing the club down while losing money in the process". When the tedious subject of debt to equity gets completed there will be something else for these glass half empty saddos will find something else to groan about. The fact that Malky and the board have assembled the finest squad of players in the modern history of Cardiff City whilst in the last two and a half years keeping us not only afloat but improving all aspects of the clubs infrastructure doesn't mean that much to the grumblers. It's incredible how many have jumped on the debt bandwagon when nobody questioned the motives of Sam Hammam at the time of his spending sprees.

How many of these attend games and spend the two hours talking about the finances. Thank fuxk they're not sat next to me. I'm too busy supporting the team instead of boring someone to tears about accounting

debt is debt doesnt matter how much it is take look at man u! as long as its managed doesnt matter how much it is, vt is the one manageing it so all is well, and because of amount hes put in i cannot for the life of me see him pulling plug unless of course he doesnt mind losing 50mil!

The Malaysians have only delivered 25% of what was promised by backing the manager and the other 75% has still not been delivered.
1)Expand the stadium: This could be done now if the so called demand for family ST is there.
2)Training facilities: No news on this
3) Debt to equity

Until the three promises listed above are delivered then we have to be cautious because lets face it we have been shafted by previous owners before, now I actually trust the Malaysians to keep their word on the promises made but debt to equity has to happen by Jan/Feb to keep the momentum going.

We were fucked before they came, we'll be fucked if they leave!

£30m, £100m...whats the difference?

70 million my friend .

We were fucked before they came, we'll be fucked if they leave!

£30m, £100m...whats the difference?

70 million my friend .

The Malaysians have only delivered 25% of what was promised by backing the manager and the other 75% has still not been delivered.
1)Expand the stadium: This could be done now if the so called demand for family ST is there. - Don't think we are doing it until we get into the Prem
2)Training facilities: No news on this - As far as I know they were still looking for a suitable location
3) Debt to equity - Not done yet

Until the three promises listed above are delivered then we have to be cautious because lets face it we have been shafted by previous owners before, now I actually trust the Malaysians to keep their word on the promises made but debt to equity has to happen by Jan/Feb to keep the momentum going.

The Malaysians have only delivered 25% of what was promised by backing the manager and the other 75% has still not been delivered.
1)Expand the stadium: This could be done now if the so called demand for family ST is there. - Don't think we are doing it until we get into the Prem They said they would do it if the re brand went ahead
2)Training facilities: No news on this - As far as I know they were still looking for a suitable location They said a place was already being bought if i remember correctly
3) Debt to equity - Not done yet

Until the three promises listed above are delivered then we have to be cautious because lets face it we have been shafted by previous owners before, now I actually trust the Malaysians to keep their word on the promises made but debt to equity has to happen by Jan/Feb to keep the momentum going.

Well I think they have put their money where their mouth is with investment onto the team.
Thank you TG and VT.
They have to make us a success in order to get any investment back.
If the Royal Navy changed their uniform from blue to green, would they still be the Royal Navy? Hell yes.
CCFC in a different colour. (which will go back to blue one day)
Pick and shovel.

Their money? What like Sam put HIS money in?

We could end up the same as we did when he left or 10x worse.

You make it sound so romantic but its just loans against the club with interest which they can call in anytime they like.

Hard

Wasnt Sams money though was it!

Big DIFFERENCE ---- it is VT money . It certainly wasn't ever Sam's Money !!!

Malaysians don't do business failure unless they really have to -- that's a fact , so all this debt to equity is not worth worrying about ----- they have got themselves into a situation , they saw a club heading to the premiership for a mere 6 million punt.

It should have paid off but didn't.

Now they have no choice and have to dig themselves out of it and the only way to do that is to make it a success and off load it. They have the resources to fund it in the mid term until its in an off loadable position.

to get it in to an off loadable position they have to clear the debts ( including the debts to themselves ) and in to a position of a strong balance sheet . Hence why they won't leave Sam on the never never ---- of course Sam and his coherts know this and why they react the way that they do ! They certainly will never let the ship sink.

The same posters and so called"fans"who questioned if the Malaysians would make good of their word and back Malky during the window have been proved wrong. These same people then try to deflect it with the time honoured "yeah butt he's charging us 7% and it's all loans and he wants to eventually f**k us by closing the club down while losing money in the process". When the tedious subject of debt to equity gets completed there will be something else for these glass half empty saddos will find something else to groan about. The fact that Malky and the board have assembled the finest squad of players in the modern history of Cardiff City whilst in the last two and a half years keeping us not only afloat but improving all aspects of the clubs infrastructure doesn't mean that much to the grumblers. It's incredible how many have jumped on the debt bandwagon when nobody questioned the motives of Sam Hammam at the time of his spending sprees.

How many of these attend games and spend the two hours talking about the finances. Thank fuxk they're not sat next to me. I'm too busy supporting the team instead of boring someone to tears about accounting

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