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Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:14 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Gwyn, without a doubt you are being proven correct, I'll admit it.

:ayatollah:

Frankly, the Maynard signing has done it for me, they could be our best owners ever even better that Rick Wright.


Let's not let one shiny signing prove anything though. This was MM budget and we think he spent it well.
I feel he had more than we think tho.
A budget is wages and fees together and I reckon we have a fortune on wages as well.... He has been fully backed.

Despite being a huge DJ fan I think MM has spent it better than DJ would have.


I was getting there with bellers, kimbo and mutch. Then when Noone came in and finally Maynard it got me round.

Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:08 am

FIRSTLY.. It is not Malky we have to thank for changing our recruitment policy from loans
to long term assets. It is TAN. Tan was here during Jones' reign and like everyone else
saw the futility in trying to build on older, borrowed players. He is the one who is giving
Malky money to buy young players that might not even make the first team this season.
THAT is what they call a long term investment.

SECONDLY...

This debt... It is big, very big. But people must be blind or bitter if they cannot see that
most of the debt has gone into paying off creditors and totally restructuring the Club from
the bottom up. The actual money spent on players is a drop in the ocean as a percentage
of the total debt.

SO... This feller who is trying to shaft us is spending the vast majority of his money so far
on getting the Club running properly. He is funding our monthly losses. He wont do it forever
thats obvious. But if he left now... What would he gain??? What would he gain?? How could
he possibly shaft Cardiff City.? We would immediately go into admin and go bust, then re-emerge
as Cardiff City Bluebirds FC or whatever. He would get f**k ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If ANYONE can tell me how Vincent Tan stands to gain if Cardiff City f**k up then I'm all ears??????

I blame Sam Hammam and Ridsdale for all this shite. They screwed Cardiff City and far too many
of us have been wounded, are mistrustful and automatically think the gaffer is out to rob us.

If Cardiff City do not go up in the next two seasons. I think Tan may well CUT HIS LOSSES and go!!
But WHO will be the biggest loser??

It will be him. Undoubtedly. He'd never get his money back.

We'd start again with a slightly different name. Something we were close to having to do when the
Lebanese crook tried to destroy us

So YES, he does deserve our trust. If only because we all know (and more importantly, so does he)
that he will never ever get this "100mil" back.

His ONLY hope of securing his money is by changing that debt to equity.


Dont be conned by this anti-Malaysian rhetoric. Not unless these people can come up with a viable
scenario as to how Tan can end up "conning" the Club.

Its a huge gamble by him. But its time we all woke up!!!

If it goes wrong.... We ALL lose. So We ARE all in it together!

Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:38 am

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:27 am

I can envisage a scenario where they cut their losses and we would go to the wall. The greater the debt becomes the less chance of any package to save us. Personally I think the majority were behind going red and the investment it brings so it is our club.

I like the signings I just worry we are spending too far above our means. Didn't work for Leicester. Not sure malky is right man.

Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:33 am

maccydee wrote:I can envisage a scenario where they cut their losses and we would go to the wall. The greater the debt becomes the less chance of any package to save us. Personally I think the majority were behind going red and the investment it brings so it is our club.

I like the signings I just worry we are spending too far above our means. Didn't work for Leicester. Not sure malky is right man.


As T said in his radio interview, they would have left at the bad time if they had ever intended leaving, not now when they are committed to the level that they are, as for the greater the debt,yes I agree with you, and if you think back a couple of years we came that close to going out of business as no one barring the Malaysians would touch us with a barge pole.

With the amount they have spent on players, the amount they have pumped into the academy, the plans in place for stadium expansion and training ground, does that look like the actions of people planning to cut their losses, because they got a funny way of showing it if it is. :roll:

Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:29 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
maccydee wrote:I can envisage a scenario where they cut their losses and we would go to the wall. The greater the debt becomes the less chance of any package to save us. Personally I think the majority were behind going red and the investment it brings so it is our club.

I like the signings I just worry we are spending too far above our means. Didn't work for Leicester. Not sure malky is right man.


As T said in his radio interview, they would have left at the bad time if they had ever intended leaving, not now when they are committed to the level that they are, as for the greater the debt,yes I agree with you, and if you think back a couple of years we came that close to going out of business as no one barring the Malaysians would touch us with a barge pole.

With the amount they have spent on players, the amount they have pumped into the academy, the plans in place for stadium expansion and training ground, does that look like the actions of people planning to cut their losses, because they got a funny way of showing it if it is. :roll:


I hope so gwyn.

Re: PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE

Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:31 pm

Gwyn.... Beginning to look like some sort of soothsayer or Mystic Meg type character! :o