Israel not far away from hitting Iran. Standby for trouble.

Iran is a country whose leaders have repeatedly denied the holocaust, called for the destruction of Israël and all it's inhabitants. On top of that is Iran's regime one of the most repressive of the world, virtually no Iranian citizen has a right on free speech.

I don't like the Israelis (it's about time the international community holds them to account for (for example) all the illegal settlements), but given the horrible record of Iran's foreign and domestic policy, you really can't defend these cunts.

If you really think that Iran is the victim here, you're either misinformed or a stubborn, disingenuous dictator-loving c**t like George Galloway.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Exactly, mate.

My problem with these types of discussions is that there always seem to be two groups of twats who both won't face up to the facts.
There's a hardcore pro-Israel side that keeps on bringing up the holocaust as some sort of justification of all the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the past and present. These 'USA! USA!' kind of people will never allow anyone to critize American or Israeli foreign policy. Idiots.
On the other side there's the very smug group of people who pronounce proudly that they regard the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel as the 'real axis of evil'. Most of these people would rather see a world in which the Taliban and Al-Qaida would still be active and alive in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein as the leader and owner of both Iraq and Kuwait than any kind of intervention from the west at all. Idiots.

To be fair, both make me sick.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Exactly, mate.

My problem with these types of discussions is that there always seem to be two groups of twats who both won't face up to the facts.
There's a hardcore pro-Israel side that keeps on bringing up the holocaust as some sort of justification of all the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the past and present. These 'USA! USA!' kind of people will never allow anyone to critize American or Israeli foreign policy. Idiots.
On the other side there's the very smug group of people who pronounce proudly that they regard the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel as the 'real axis of evil'. Most of these people would rather see a world in which the Taliban and Al-Qaida would still be active and alive in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein as the leader and owner of both Iraq and Kuwait than any kind of intervention from the west at all. Idiots.

To be fair, both make me sick.

I wonder if we will all eventually live in a world empty of greed and corruption.....never mind, silly wish.

Where there is religion or unless other religions respect others beliefs then there will always be wars and the world will always be a dangerous place.
The sad thing is i take the piss sometimes out of religion and i am branded a complete and utter racist but i live a simple life. I don't commit genocide, i don't murder, i don't force my Wife to hide under a vale, I don't stop Women from working or deny rights like voting or having opinions.
But religions! they Murder other non believers of there faith, they deny rights to there own people, and they cause over 90% of all wars, and they control most of our Oil supplies which causes more Wars.
But i am the disgusting one because i am a so called racist because i have a view or because i am a piss taker

Where there is religion or unless other religions respect others beliefs then there will always be wars and the world will always be a dangerous place.
The sad thing is i take the piss sometimes out of religion and i am branded a complete and utter racist but i live a simple life. I don't commit genocide, i don't murder, i don't force my Wife to hide under a vale, I don't stop Women from working or deny rights like voting or having opinions.
But religions! they Murder other non believers of there faith, they deny rights to there own people, and they cause over 90% of all wars, and they control most of our Oil supplies which causes more Wars.
But i am the disgusting one because i am a so called racist because i have a view or because i am a piss taker

This.

Religion has caused nothing but death.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Exactly, mate.

My problem with these types of discussions is that there always seem to be two groups of twats who both won't face up to the facts.
There's a hardcore pro-Israel side that keeps on bringing up the holocaust as some sort of justification of all the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the past and present. These 'USA! USA!' kind of people will never allow anyone to critize American or Israeli foreign policy. Idiots.
On the other side there's the very smug group of people who pronounce proudly that they regard the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel as the 'real axis of evil'. Most of these people would rather see a world in which the Taliban and Al-Qaida would still be active and alive in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein as the leader and owner of both Iraq and Kuwait than any kind of intervention from the west at all. Idiots.

To be fair, both make me sick.

What's your view then Jordy?

"Flush the Jew down the well" - Borat

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Exactly, mate.

My problem with these types of discussions is that there always seem to be two groups of twats who both won't face up to the facts.
There's a hardcore pro-Israel side that keeps on bringing up the holocaust as some sort of justification of all the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the past and present. These 'USA! USA!' kind of people will never allow anyone to critize American or Israeli foreign policy. Idiots.
On the other side there's the very smug group of people who pronounce proudly that they regard the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel as the 'real axis of evil'. Most of these people would rather see a world in which the Taliban and Al-Qaida would still be active and alive in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein as the leader and owner of both Iraq and Kuwait than any kind of intervention from the west at all. Idiots.

To be fair, both make me sick.

What's your view then Jordy?

Well, first of all, there should finally be a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. Both should be treated as equals (so the Palestinians can guard their own borders and build up their own army)...but this can only succeed if we remove the jewish settlers from very large parts of Palestinian territory first. Second of all, we should get rid of all the radical elements in Israel and Palestine. Organisations like the Orthodox Jewish one's on one hand and Hamas on the other both frustrate the peace proces and don't have peace for all jews and muslims as their objectives. Since peace is impossible if these elements still have quite some power, we should just outlaw them. These are draconian actions to take, but it's the only way to enforce peace.
On top of that, there should be a mighty power from abroad to guard the whole proces. But to be honest, I can't come up with any foreign intervention force that suits the conflict. The Americans have always been way to pro-Israel to act as an impartial force and most muslim states in the region have supported Palestinian terrorist attacks on Israeli school busses, so they can't act as a great peacekeepingforce either.
So we must hope the best of the UN peacekeepers, but given their record in places like Rwanda and Bosian-Herzegovina, I don't think they're only the slightest bit capable of handling these situations.


As far as Iran is concerned: I have great respect for the Persian people, they should be regarded, together with the Romans, Egyptians and Greeks, as a people that has contributed very much to humanity. Unfortunately, their country is being ruled by an absolute medieval ruling class that is constantly opressing and terrorising it's people. These theocracies are best described by the following example: At this very right moment, a 12-year old girl in Pakistan risks the death penalty for damaging or burning pages of the quran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asi ... story.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/08/24 ... -to-speak/

This goes against anything the enlightenment has brought to the world and it goes against all our standards. In my view we should not stand idly by as these countrys and their inhabitants are being dragged back into the middle ages.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Exactly, mate.

My problem with these types of discussions is that there always seem to be two groups of twats who both won't face up to the facts.
There's a hardcore pro-Israel side that keeps on bringing up the holocaust as some sort of justification of all the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the past and present. These 'USA! USA!' kind of people will never allow anyone to critize American or Israeli foreign policy. Idiots.
On the other side there's the very smug group of people who pronounce proudly that they regard the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel as the 'real axis of evil'. Most of these people would rather see a world in which the Taliban and Al-Qaida would still be active and alive in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein as the leader and owner of both Iraq and Kuwait than any kind of intervention from the west at all. Idiots.

To be fair, both make me sick.

What's your view then Jordy?

Well, first of all, there should finally be a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. Both should be treated as equals (so the Palestinians can guard their own borders and build up their own army)...but this can only succeed if we remove the jewish settlers from very large parts of Palestinian territory first. Second of all, we should get rid of all the radical elements in Israel and Palestine. Organisations like the Orthodox Jewish one's on one hand and Hamas on the other both frustrate the peace proces and don't have peace for all jews and muslims as their objectives. Since peace is impossible if these elements still have quite some power, we should just outlaw them. These are draconian actions to take, but it's the only way to enforce peace.
On top of that, there should be a mighty power from abroad to guard the whole proces. But to be honest, I can't come up with any foreign intervention force that suits the conflict. The Americans have always been way to pro-Israel to act as an impartial force and most muslim states in the region have supported Palestinian terrorist attacks on Israeli school busses, so they can't act as a great peacekeepingforce either.
So we must hope the best of the UN peacekeepers, but given their record in places like Rwanda and Bosian-Herzegovina, I don't think they're only the slightest bit capable of handling these situations.


As far as Iran is concerned: I have great respect for the Persian people, they should be regarded, together with the Romans, Egyptians and Greeks, as a people that has contributed very much to humanity. Unfortunately, their country is being ruled by an absolute medieval ruling class that is constantly opressing and terrorising it's people. These theocracies are best described by the following example: At this very right moment, a 12-year old girl in Pakistan risks the death penalty for damaging or burning pages of the quran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asi ... story.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/08/24 ... -to-speak/

This goes against anything the enlightenment has brought to the world and it goes against all our standards. In my view we should not stand idly by as these countrys and their inhabitants are being dragged back into the middle ages.

Jordy to be new UN Security General.....you heard it here first.

Anyway, it'll be us and the yanks, heck perhaps even the french hitting Iran.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Exactly, mate.

My problem with these types of discussions is that there always seem to be two groups of twats who both won't face up to the facts.
There's a hardcore pro-Israel side that keeps on bringing up the holocaust as some sort of justification of all the crimes committed by the state of Israel in the past and present. These 'USA! USA!' kind of people will never allow anyone to critize American or Israeli foreign policy. Idiots.
On the other side there's the very smug group of people who pronounce proudly that they regard the United States, the United Kingdom and Israel as the 'real axis of evil'. Most of these people would rather see a world in which the Taliban and Al-Qaida would still be active and alive in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein as the leader and owner of both Iraq and Kuwait than any kind of intervention from the west at all. Idiots.

To be fair, both make me sick.

What's your view then Jordy?

Well, first of all, there should finally be a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. Both should be treated as equals (so the Palestinians can guard their own borders and build up their own army)...but this can only succeed if we remove the jewish settlers from very large parts of Palestinian territory first. Second of all, we should get rid of all the radical elements in Israel and Palestine. Organisations like the Orthodox Jewish one's on one hand and Hamas on the other both frustrate the peace proces and don't have peace for all jews and muslims as their objectives. Since peace is impossible if these elements still have quite some power, we should just outlaw them. These are draconian actions to take, but it's the only way to enforce peace.
On top of that, there should be a mighty power from abroad to guard the whole proces. But to be honest, I can't come up with any foreign intervention force that suits the conflict. The Americans have always been way to pro-Israel to act as an impartial force and most muslim states in the region have supported Palestinian terrorist attacks on Israeli school busses, so they can't act as a great peacekeepingforce either.
So we must hope the best of the UN peacekeepers, but given their record in places like Rwanda and Bosian-Herzegovina, I don't think they're only the slightest bit capable of handling these situations.


As far as Iran is concerned: I have great respect for the Persian people, they should be regarded, together with the Romans, Egyptians and Greeks, as a people that has contributed very much to humanity. Unfortunately, their country is being ruled by an absolute medieval ruling class that is constantly opressing and terrorising it's people. These theocracies are best described by the following example: At this very right moment, a 12-year old girl in Pakistan risks the death penalty for damaging or burning pages of the quran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asi ... story.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/08/24 ... -to-speak/

This goes against anything the enlightenment has brought to the world and it goes against all our standards. In my view we should not stand idly by as these countrys and their inhabitants are being dragged back into the middle ages.

Jordy to be new UN Security General.....you heard it here first.

Hahaha, thanks mate.

Iran is a country whose leaders have repeatedly denied the holocaust, called for the destruction of Israël and all it's inhabitants. On top of that is Iran's regime one of the most repressive of the world, virtually no Iranian citizen has a right on free speech.

I don't like the Israelis (it's about time the international community holds them to account for (for example) all the illegal settlements), but given the horrible record of Iran's foreign and domestic policy, you really can't defend these cunts.

If you really think that Iran is the victim here, you're either misinformed or a stubborn, disingenuous dictator-loving c**t like George Galloway.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

BB the future of the world resides in your generation, the "young adults" * of your age group will be called upon to sort this all shit out one day when it all kicks off.

Have a listen to this, nearly thirty years old now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFrilwRtvN8

Iran is a country whose leaders have repeatedly denied the holocaust, called for the destruction of Israël and all it's inhabitants. On top of that is Iran's regime one of the most repressive of the world, virtually no Iranian citizen has a right on free speech.

I don't like the Israelis (it's about time the international community holds them to account for (for example) all the illegal settlements), but given the horrible record of Iran's foreign and domestic policy, you really can't defend these cunts.

If you really think that Iran is the victim here, you're either misinformed or a stubborn, disingenuous dictator-loving c**t like George Galloway.

Oh believe me, Im not saying Iran are perfect, the world could do without mr imafuckingnutjob and the Ayatollah.

Oi pack it in, first the colour goes, now the Ayatollah lol

If Israel attacked Iran, how would it effect Britain?

Could it lead to world war 3 possibly?

If Israel attacked Iran, how would it effect Britain?

Could it lead to world war 3 possibly?

Yep.

Largely depends on who spills the beans as they say.

If Israel attacked Iran, how would it effect Britain?

Could it lead to world war 3 possibly?

Yep.

Largely depends on who spills the beans as they say.

No it wouldnt, it'd be more war rhetoric from Russia and china would do jack shit unless attacked.

Inevitable 'Cold War' 2.0.

Nukes, I'll pretend you didn't say that about the Iranian president ICantfindmyjacket.

No its AMADINNERJACKET

Forget him it's the big Ayatollah that's pulling the strings. That's why Cardiff are safe with out head tapping routine

A war between Israel and Iran wouldn't lead to World War III. Of course not. A world war is, just as the names suggests, a war in which almost the entire planet is somehow militarily involved in the greater worldwide conflict.

Agression between Israel and Iran would be disastrous, and could perhaps lead to the deployment of British and American forces. That would make all of this quite a large conflict, but not a world war. Most of the powerfull sunni states (for example Saudi Arabia) are glad to see a Shia state and regime being attacked so they would be glad to get out of the way for western troops. And China and Russia don't even bother to intervene. Of course, they would defend their totalitarian ally (like they are doing now with Assad in Syria) with a lot of noise and screaming in the UN security council, but they wouldn't like to be part of a conflict with the west. So they will stay out.

I just hope the people of Iran can force their disgracefull regime out, before some kind of war breaks out.

Inevitable 'Cold War' 2.0.

With new improvements! With the US eventually commissioning the F35, the Chinese nearly completing their stealth fighter jet and Putin turning into a bear!

See the Cold War in 3D by joining the HM Armed Forces, all the action includes standing with your NATO comrades staring at Russian troops 100 yards away behind sandbags or joining the illegal invasion of Iran!(for UK viewers only)

So who will prevail this time? The coolest American president of all time or "the alpha dog" vladmir mantits Putin?

For betting odds and prices please PM Tony/Topcat.

Inevitable 'Cold War' 2.0.

With new improvements! With the US eventually commissioning the F35, the Chinese nearly completing their stealth fighter jet and Putin turning into a bear!

See the Cold War in 3D by joining the HM Armed Forces, all the action includes standing with your NATO comrades staring at Russian troops 100 yards away behind sandbags or joining the illegal invasion of Iran!(for UK viewers only)

So who will prevail this time? The coolest American president of all time or "the alpha dog" vladmir mantits Putin?

For betting odds and prices please PM Tony/Topcat.

Better start building my bunker

Inevitable 'Cold War' 2.0.

With new improvements! With the US eventually commissioning the F35, the Chinese nearly completing their stealth fighter jet and Putin turning into a bear!

See the Cold War in 3D by joining the HM Armed Forces, all the action includes standing with your NATO comrades staring at Russian troops 100 yards away behind sandbags or joining the illegal invasion of Iran!(for UK viewers only)

So who will prevail this time? The coolest American president of all time or "the alpha dog" vladmir mantits Putin?

For betting odds and prices please PM Tony/Topcat.

Better start building my bunker

Well hopefully I'll be watching the Russian troops doing f**k all with 3D glasses on.

Well their track record suggests they'll just puff their chests out to intimidate defenceless and inferior countries without actually fighting any real war

Well their track record suggests they'll just puff their chests out to intimidate defenceless and inferior countries without actually fighting any real war

Where as we, NATO, have plenty of experience cause we're always at war.