Langston Turn down latest offer

Annoying but not unexpected really.
Two power crazy guys tryin to get the best deal they can.

f**k me, we cant pin EVERYTHING on Mr Evil of Malaysia

Sam got offered Ten, then said "Ten plus five or I walk PAST the beach"

Now its at Nine plus six, but in instalments and its still "thanks but no thanks, but by
the way I LOVE my family down the City, Oh and by the way Vincent, get that debt
to equity thing rolling for MY FAMILY

He wont get a better offer (I hope)

And its nice to see all fans are coming round and seeing what a manipulative
old bluffer he is to be honest.

there's a part of me now that wants to see this charade put in a box marked
"See you in Court".. and City move on regardless

Cos we all know Samuel Langstone aint going to go to court. Not after the
last caning off the judge.

Uummm who is blaming the Malaysians

Not picking holes mate.

But i dont think this is about two big egos anymore

Of course it is, it always has been, it's a game of poker.

IMO the person to blame the most? The one who leaked the rebrand info.

Disagree now re: Tan. As you say, its a negotiation, a game of poker
but there comes a time when you have to hold your hands up and cash
your chips. Sam is just grandstanding now, his last chance in the limelight

That's Sam and Langstons decision though an nothing we can do about that.
I think a lot of games have been played by both parties and in the end both are losing out.

I want Sam gone and paid up as cheaply as possible.
I don't see anything happening now for some time.

Surely even his most ardent supporters can't defend the indefensible. The debt was brought about by his own reckless management and has been used by him to stop the club moving forward.

It seems to me that Sam is like a cancer that won't let go until the patient is dead.

Time for certain people who called him a friend to wake up and see him for what he is; a destroyer of football clubs. Wimbledon fans have never been in any doubt .

hmmmm.......very interesting points.

I was always a supporter of his, but not anymore.

Sam for life long president my arse f**k off sam you c**t

Some bitter people in this thread one poster hopes hes dies before he gets payed another wants him to get nothing, one even wonders why he ran up the debt while climbing the leagues, only at cardiff city folks

Didn't the judge in the summary judgment say that there was sufficient evidence available to eventually prove Sam is Langston therefore he shouldn't be lending himself money? which means it can't go back to court? (I may be wrong on my understanding?)

So then there will have to be some out of court settlement somewhere along the line? Therefore the upper hand will always be with Tan? I know there was this date of 2016 for the full £24m + interest to become available for payment, but I think it's safe to say it aint gonna get that far.

Where is the middle ground? what settlement or offer would you make? Sam wants £15m!

The 'Summary Judgement' meant that Langstone will need to go to a full Court Case
to retrieve the full amount. The Judge did not hold back though and made it clear he
thought Sam was Langstone, and the truth would out in a full trial. So Langstone CAN
try and get the full monty. But as you say there could be a f*cking great bear trap
waiting there for them in Court

Some bitter people in this thread one poster hopes hes dies before he gets payed another wants him to get nothing, one even wonders why he ran up the debt while climbing the leagues, only at cardiff city folks

More people wonder why he didnt tell us about the debt until Kavanagh was
being Helicoptered out in the fire sale!!! We were lied to for years

Wishing death on the feller is beyond though

Some bitter people in this thread one poster hopes hes dies before he gets payed another wants him to get nothing, one even wonders why he ran up the debt while climbing the leagues, only at cardiff city folks

More people wonder why he didnt tell us about the debt until Kavanagh was
being Helicoptered out in the fire sale!!! We were lied to for years

Wishing death on the feller is beyond though

Oh i know thats why i said theres some rite bitter cunts in this thread

sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

Wheres carl, gwyn, annis in all of this there all on sams payroll aint they so people keep saying on ccmb

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sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

so your not saying its true? the judge said that sam hamman is langstone yes? so what ive said is the truth if sam hamman is langstone ?

sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

so your not saying its true? the judge said that sam hamman is langstone yes? so what ive said is the truth if sam hamman is langstone ?

Your missing the point then why would vt want to pay sam anything then if this is the case because its void is it not if what you say is true

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sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

so your not saying its true? the judge said that sam hamman is langstone yes? so what ive said is the truth if sam hamman is langstone ?

hes offering only a 1/4 of the amount carl and annis are saying is owed

sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

so your not saying its true? the judge said that sam hamman is langstone yes? so what ive said is the truth if sam hamman is langstone ?

Your missing the point then why would vt want to pay sam anything then if this is the case because its void is it not if what you say is true

i am afraid its a tale of two massive ego's with either one of them not wanting to lose face.

i am afraid its a tale of two massive ego's with either one of them not wanting to lose face.

Agreed steve thats clear for all to see now but how do we move on if shit like this keeps going on and on season after season, how will we get this promise of debt to equity without it which is what us as fans want most is, it is for me anyway as i couldnt give a f**k about the players we had for the reband it was always this debt sorted and we become solid for the future

the fact VT is spending is good enough for me to know he's in it for the longer term, if he wanted his money back if we dont go up hes not gonna get it as the club's worth shit. So by adding to a debt he knows he cant recover to me means he serious about converting to equity....as thats the only way he can get his money back.

sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

so your not saying its true? the judge said that sam hamman is langstone yes? so what ive said is the truth if sam hamman is langstone ?

Your missing the point then why would vt want to pay sam anything then if this is the case because its void is it not if what you say is true

its not void but the court wouldnt look good on the intrest charged and would want to know how the orginal debt was made up of ,if the debt was made up of payment to one of his own companies ie rudwick ?

the fact VT is spending is good enough for me to know he's in it for the longer term, if he wanted his money back if we dont go up hes not gonna get it as the club's worth shit. So by adding to a debt he knows he cant recover to me means he serious about converting to equity....as thats the only way he can get his money back.

Meanwhile back at the ranch we all sit tight then asking him to keep chucking millions in @7% apr that he will never see . Why would he mention converting debt to equity then because the only way i see him getting his coin back is if he sells up for over 110+million next season if we are in the prem as that would never happen in the championship im sure or maybe selling half a stake and sitting on half if we get there who knows

sam hamman runs up a debt in his own company, then lends his company money from one of his other companies to pay off his own debt at a intrest rate of 7% ,then excepct to get the intrest and full money lent back of debt he ran up you cant make it he will never get the full money back cardiff have made offers and he hasnt taken it ,f**k him hope he gets f**k all

So why is VT trying to pay him anything then if what you say is true

so your not saying its true? the judge said that sam hamman is langstone yes? so what ive said is the truth if sam hamman is langstone ?

Your missing the point then why would vt want to pay sam anything then if this is the case because its void is it not if what you say is true

its not void but the court wouldnt look good on the intrest charged and would want to know how the orginal debt was made up of ,if the debt was made up of payment to one of his own companies ie rudwick ?

The figure will be the same VT put to one side if we go to court though minus the intrest if thats the case so whats the diffrence to now or when its payed in 2016, plus we got clauses in there which will go ping if we reach the prem along with stadium naming rights in 2016 is it not

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7% on a business loan in the current climate on a business with CCFC's credit rating is a fantastic rate!

If he converts to equity and sells us for a trillion its only good news for us!

7% on a business loan in the current climate on a business with CCFC's credit rating is a fantastic rate!

If he converts to equity and sells us for a trillion its only good news for us!

I can't believe serious posters are still commenting on the 7%

7% on a business loan in the current climate on a business with CCFC's credit rating is a fantastic rate!

If he converts to equity and sells us for a trillion its only good news for us!

Then VT is no diffrent to sam then if thats the case loaning money on an intrest basis if he does not cover his promise of debt to equity

7% on a business loan in the current climate on a business with CCFC's credit rating is a fantastic rate!

If he converts to equity and sells us for a trillion its only good news for us!

Then VT is no diffrent to sam then if thats the case loaning money on an intrest basis if he does not cover his promise of debt to equity

apart from the fact VT has always said its loans at the moment.....Sam said it was his money and the debt would leave with him!

And 7% back then was astronomical due to the fact we weren't in debt so our credit rating was a lot better.

7% on a business loan in the current climate on a business with CCFC's credit rating is a fantastic rate!

If he converts to equity and sells us for a trillion its only good news for us!

Then hes no diffrent to sam then if thats the case loaning money on an intrest basis if he does not cover his promise of debt to equity

If you were Tan and you took over a business (Ccfc) with huge debts and the main creditor had already taken you to court and pushing for payment. Would u them ask for less interest than them?

On that logic Langson would be getting more and more powerful while Tans debt stayed static. Makes no sense.

7% on a business loan in the current climate on a business with CCFC's credit rating is a fantastic rate!

If he converts to equity and sells us for a trillion its only good news for us!

Then VT is no diffrent to sam then if thats the case loaning money on an intrest basis if he does not cover his promise of debt to equity

apart from the fact VT has always said its loans at the moment.....Sam said it was his money and the debt would leave with him!

And 7% back then was astronomical due to the fact we weren't in debt so our credit rating was a lot better.

But we are still being hilted up with loans though it makes no diffrence where its from or who its from rite now as we speak we are running on somebodys loans VT can do what he wants when he wants weather its players,training ground ect ect it can all be claimed back by himself on something he done himself when the time comes so in my eyes hes no diffrent to sam, he will want paying. Thats what i can not understand about are fans. All owners are the same. Its just some fans only want see players on the pitch

Wheres annis, carlos ten pence worth in all of this they would know more than most from on one side of the fence.

As you say loans are loans, but the difference between Sam and Tan is that Tan has the money to keep everything going IF he wants to do it.

Sam lied about where the money was from, VT has not......thats the big difference so far.