Why do Welsh people seem scared of going self employed..?

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

so if you got outgoigs of £900 per month and on the dole the gap between incoming and outgoing would be larger than if you had £900 outgoings and £800 incomings surely..?

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Has your average wage since 2004 been £40 per day or more?

some day its been worse especially during certain times of the year

I asked 'on average'

On average means you add up what you earned during the good days and bad days and then divide that number by how many days you worked to give you an average. I then wanted to know if that average was £40 per day?

It is no good just quoting the bad days and then claiming to be a working class martyr and expecting everyone else to work for the same pay (every day) as one of your bad days.

Perhaps its because a lot of the welsh society can't afford to go self employed? Bare in mind we are the poorest of the Home Nations.

how much would it cost to get a taxi licence..? how much would it cost to buy a ladder and a bucket..? and if I'm not mistaken the individual can get funding so some set-up costs.

I suppose it could also be said that as a poor nation is should have a better enterpeurial mindset to get a better lifestyle

If your on the dole they will actually fund the whole licence for you, once passed you can sub hire a taxi and pay your rent weekly, on the basis you get the dole to pay for the licence then work a week and pay your taxi rent it will cost £0

Last edited by Mardon89 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

so if you got outgoigs of £900 per month and on the dole the gap between incoming and outgoing would be larger than if you had £900 outgoings and £800 incomings surely..?

No the goverment would give you money to cover both rent and child support to a sufficient amount on a weekly basis

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

and you think these fellers are earning a ton a day?

How can you be so f*cking naive?

The average driving job will pay you about 7 quid an hour

If you could earn 500-500 a week driving a van every fucker would be
doing it.

As for the window cleaner. unless his round is on his own estate, do you
suggest he get to work by riding in his bucket???.

Also, where is your evidence that Welsh people are SCARED of going
self-employed? where did you get the data from

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

I worked as a taxi driver for 10 years or so and I find what you have said to be quite unbelieveable. There is a massive difference between what you take on a Saturday and a weekday.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

so if you got outgoigs of £900 per month and on the dole the gap between incoming and outgoing would be larger than if you had £900 outgoings and £800 incomings surely..?

No it means your working for f**k all you will still need 100£ to make up what it is your paying out for seriously adam ive seen some threads but not suddenly you a self empolyed genius who claims people are lazy because they should become self emplyed and clean windows for £40 a day

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

and you think these fellers are earning a ton a day?

How can you be so f*cking naive?

The average driving job will pay you about 7 quid an hour

If you could earn 500-500 a week driving a van every fucker would be
doing it.

As for the window cleaner. unless his round is on his own estate, do you
suggest he get to work by riding in his bucket???.

Also, where is your evidence that Welsh people are SCARED of going
self-employed? where did you get the data from

Naive..? Opps sorry I f*cking do it a couple of days per week!!!!

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

What a f*cking liar

I've worked the cabs myself.

You can earn sweet f**k all during the week. Its pubs and clubs and pissed up
punters where the money is. WEEKENDS!!

I did it. Its tough but now run a fairly successful business with a global presence.

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

and you think these fellers are earning a ton a day?

How can you be so f*cking naive?

The average driving job will pay you about 7 quid an hour

If you could earn 500-500 a week driving a van every fucker would be
doing it.

As for the window cleaner. unless his round is on his own estate, do you
suggest he get to work by riding in his bucket???.

Also, where is your evidence that Welsh people are SCARED of going
self-employed? where did you get the data from

Dave hes talking complete rubbish i put a decent post up on this and all he had to say about it was well 40£ a day being self employed is better than nothing, f**k me what next a force of window cleaners comming dow the road in there new vans running on oil from the lcoal chip shop while the family is back at home hoping he earns 40£ a day

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

I worked as a taxi driver for 10 years or so and I find what you have said to be quite unbelieveable. There is a massive difference between what you take on a Saturday and a weekday.

I suppose it depends on the company you work for as some of more school runs than others but that wht I have witnessed

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

and you think these fellers are earning a ton a day?

How can you be so f*cking naive?

The average driving job will pay you about 7 quid an hour

If you could earn 500-500 a week driving a van every fucker would be
doing it.

As for the window cleaner. unless his round is on his own estate, do you
suggest he get to work by riding in his bucket???.

Also, where is your evidence that Welsh people are SCARED of going
self-employed? where did you get the data from

Naive..? Opps sorry I f*cking do it a couple of days per week!!!!

Your telling me white van man is earning on average 500 quid a week?

Do f**k off you pillock

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

so if you got outgoigs of £900 per month and on the dole the gap between incoming and outgoing would be larger than if you had £900 outgoings and £800 incomings surely..?

No it means your working for f**k all you will still need 100£ to make up what it is your paying out for seriously adam ive seen some threads but not suddenly you a self empolyed genius who claims people are lazy because they should become self emplyed and clean windows for £40 a day

but your example meant that a person ha got £900 outgoings already!!!!

If they are self employed they would need money for a car, fuel, insurance, tax.etc so its not a casr of spending 300.00 and earning it back in a week

Fleet drivers mean that you are self employed working for someone else so you would use their car, insurance and so on.

and you think these fellers are earning a ton a day?

How can you be so f*cking naive?

The average driving job will pay you about 7 quid an hour

If you could earn 500-500 a week driving a van every fucker would be
doing it.

As for the window cleaner. unless his round is on his own estate, do you
suggest he get to work by riding in his bucket???.

Also, where is your evidence that Welsh people are SCARED of going
self-employed? where did you get the data from

Naive..? Opps sorry I f*cking do it a couple of days per week!!!!

Your telling me white van man is earning on average 500 quid a week?

Do f**k off you pillock

where the f**k have I mentioned white van men you cock!!!

Your example isnt even proper self employed your relying on what is for want of a better word someonelse to employ you.

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

I worked as a taxi driver for 10 years or so and I find what you have said to be quite unbelieveable. There is a massive difference between what you take on a Saturday and a weekday.

I suppose it depends on the company you work for as some of more school runs than others but that wht I have witnessed

School runs last how long? By the time you've taken one lot home... thats it!!!

and if your driving a mini-bus for a 'company' on a contract.. you aint getting the dish,

Stop f*cking lying will you

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

so if you got outgoigs of £900 per month and on the dole the gap between incoming and outgoing would be larger than if you had £900 outgoings and £800 incomings surely..?

No it means your working for f**k all you will still need 100£ to make up what it is your paying out for seriously adam ive seen some threads but not suddenly you a self empolyed genius who claims people are lazy because they should become self emplyed and clean windows for £40 a day

but your example meant that a person ha got £900 outgoings already!!!!

Yes thats rite shall i break it down for you, morgage, gas, electric, food, council tax, car, loans ect ect the normal house hold has these days it was an example if you can understand what earning £800 a month and paying out £900 is then i give up.

Your example isnt even proper self employed your relying on what is for want of a better word someonelse to employ you.

more and more companies are taking on self employed people these days because of the costs of taking people on.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Is that it so you may have outgoings of 900£ and work for 800£ a month wake up you plank you not even getting what im saying, if it was a 17year old living at home with mum and no ties money wise i would get it then but f**k me

so if you got outgoigs of £900 per month and on the dole the gap between incoming and outgoing would be larger than if you had £900 outgoings and £800 incomings surely..?

No it means your working for f**k all you will still need 100£ to make up what it is your paying out for seriously adam ive seen some threads but not suddenly you a self empolyed genius who claims people are lazy because they should become self emplyed and clean windows for £40 a day

but your example meant that a person ha got £900 outgoings already!!!!

Yes thats rite shall i break it down for you, morgage, gas, electric, food, council tax, car, loans ect ect the normal house hold has these days it was an example if you can understand what earning £800 a month and paying out £900 is then i give up.

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Your example isnt even proper self employed your relying on what is for want of a better word someonelse to employ you.

more and more companies are taking on self employed people these days because of the costs of taking people on.

Like I said its not proper self employed.

Ive had a taxi licence since last september and only do it about two days per week because of my other work commitments but I would take home on average £80 per day easily.

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

I worked as a taxi driver for 10 years or so and I find what you have said to be quite unbelieveable. There is a massive difference between what you take on a Saturday and a weekday.

I suppose it depends on the company you work for as some of more school runs than others but that wht I have witnessed

School runs last how long? By the time you've taken one lot home... thats it!!!

and if your driving a mini-bus for a 'company' on a contract.. you aint getting the dish,

Stop f*cking lying will you

first you are mentioning white van men and now minibuses!!! just f**k off you cock!!!

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you botherd to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting as a family you can get much more than 900 a month in benefits

Last edited by CP76 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

well surely if you outgoings were more than your incomings then you need to sort it out and cut your outgoing until things irove.

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting as a family you can get much more than 900 a month in benefits

do you..? thought it was about £50 per week

And those 2 days were what Friday & Saturday?

There is a huge difference between weekend takings and week day takings.

No Saturday and Sunday days mainly but have worked on them during weekdays too and there's not much of a difference.

I worked as a taxi driver for 10 years or so and I find what you have said to be quite unbelieveable. There is a massive difference between what you take on a Saturday and a weekday.

I suppose it depends on the company you work for as some of more school runs than others but that wht I have witnessed

School runs last how long? By the time you've taken one lot home... thats it!!!

and if your driving a mini-bus for a 'company' on a contract.. you aint getting the dish,

Stop f*cking lying will you

first you are mentioning white van men and now minibuses!!! just f**k off you cock!!!

Dont spit your dummy out liar!!

YOU said 'fleet' drivers etc earn about 100 a day. Well I happen to know that driving jobs
dont pay much more than minimum wage. Unless your delivering catalogue stuff and have
a very good round.

School runs... Mini-bus/8-seater etc etc.. taking kids to little villages outside the bus route
or whatever. These are CONTRACTS paid for by the local authority. Good earners... for the
owner of the company. Schoolchildren dont normally tip very well

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting you can get more than 900 a month in benefits

Thats my point polo i know boys who have been out of work for 2-3 years now and fiddle now and then because it will not pay for them to go legit because they would be worse off, Im starting to wonder does adam live in are world or has he been in the local jobcenters these days where theres 15 jobs in there and 95% of them are translator jobs, i get boys ringing me up for subbing work weekly and its dead out there atm so i dont know what hes on

right so if you were out of work then you would have £900 outgoings with only £50 per week coming in or have a job for £200 per week with the same outgoings. surely working is better for the household then not working

Where are you getting these figures from ??? you said its easy to earn as a sub contractor 40£ a day cleaning windows thats 800£ a month weather permitting of course ok so you have this so called 800 a month a month but are paying out lets say 900 on bills and normal things that intail on having a family with say 2-3 kids and home to run. My point is why the f**k would anyone want to work for 800quid a month cleaning windows when people with 2-3 kids get more than that on the dole as a family hence why the systems fucked. If you bothered to read my 1ST POST in this thread you might grasp it. But instead you reply to it with this quote below.

been self employed since 2004 one way or another and as far as I'm concerned £40 per day is better than doing f**k all

Hes conveniently forgetting as a family you can get much more than 900 a month in benefits

do you..? thought it was about £50 per week

Oh please delete this thread before it gets worse familys get over 1000£ a month these days thats after there rents payed i know loads like it, you never cease to amaze me adam hence why it does not pay for some familys to work theres no incentive there to work or go subbing for them