AND THIS FROM SO CALLED CARDIFF SUPPORTERS

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

Whose behind it?

im making a new group Cardiff Unite Nicely Together , C.U.N.T. whos with me?

Gwyn your posts over the last couple of days really have been pathetic trying to make others look small why don't you just accept there's going to be protests at the ground and get on with your life instead of constantly trying to put others down on this forum.

And which posts are those, or are we still creating more urban legends along with my list my burying and my threats, all proven hot air.

How about the posts when you taking the piss out of members on this forum with disabilities or has that been forgotten by yourself already ?

can you explain how holding up something blue will "get to the players" ?

The ground will be full of blue and lots of bluearmy, bluebird chants anyway, do you really think theres poeple out there who love this red idea

Hang on mate..........So it's ok to wear blue to the game as a protest but not allowed to hold a banner against the change,I think you lot are making it up as you go along,all sounds a bit hypocritical,anyone who wears blue is actually part of the protest.

Then im part of that protest for wearing blue i guess along with 1000s of others this does not mean i will be chanting VT out or anything which i feel might happen but just carrying on as normal throughout the game chanting the boys on the pitch which is what its about .

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

As if they'd be allowed to take banners inside the ground

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

Whose behind it?

does it matter, read the red bolded bit, any thoughts ?

gwyn wont respond to that bit because it doesnt fit with the bollox he is spouting

going for it today big man

why dont you highlight the following sentence ?

We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans.

dont like that one so much eh ?

KCB can say it but any idiot can see it can and will disrupt the game and damage the club

how ?

If you are a true bluebird, as I am you want the best for our club, OK people don`t like red, neither do I ! But we have never been in a stronger position, the quality of players coming in and surely one of the favourites to go up, with Bellamy coming back also.

How good is that ! in my opinion, rationally speaking, wear blue as a protest and continue to so, but don`t get in the way of our team taking us back to top flight football. That is just shooting ourselves in the foot ! Get behind, the bluebirds and lets be the 12th man ! Let`s stop abusing each other and stop the infighting and get behind our great club.

On the first day of the season the truth will be there for all to see. Most people will wear blue because that's who we are. Many will wear no colours because that's what most lads do. A few with wear red. Gwyn will look like a dick. Gwyn, what is your problem mate? Are you on the Swansea payroll or something? Is BigGwynram actually you?

On the first day of the season the truth will be there for all to see. Most people will wear blue because that's who we are. Many will wear no colours because that's what most lads do. A few with wear red. Gwyn will look like a dick. Gwyn, what is your problem mate? Are you on the Swansea payroll or something? Is BigGwynram actually you?

Gwyn will be wearing his mankini with a ball hanging out each side and his cock pointing forward in a threatening manner!

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

Whose behind it?

does it matter, read the red bolded bit, any thoughts ?

gwyn wont respond to that bit because it doesnt fit with the bollox he is spouting

Of course it matters surely it isnt some secret?

Gwyn your posts over the last couple of days really have been pathetic trying to make others look small why don't you just accept there's going to be protests at the ground and get on with your life instead of constantly trying to put others down on this forum.

And which posts are those, or are we still creating more urban legends along with my list my burying and my threats, all proven hot air.

How about the posts when you taking the piss out of members on this forum with disabilities or has that been forgotten by yourself already ?

Adam, you are trying to create Urban legends, and think that if you keep making these claims often enough, then somehow they will become true, please show us these posts you claim I made, or at the very least quote the statements I supposedly made.
Yes I have taken the piss out of you, along with half the country, because you set yourself up for the ridicule you deserve.

If you are disabled, then I know nowt about your disability, and for the record what is your disability because some of your former school mate are as in the dark as I am? unless being an attention seeking bigoted plank is now recognised.

Most people take what you say with a big pinch of salt, even you must know that, your credibility on here is comical and if you seriously are going into comedy, then you will be a natural.

Many people on here know me and my background and links with disabled people and also the fact that for thirty years my life and the profession I chose to work in was based around disability, so finally yet again I ask either put up or shut up.

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

Whose behind it?

does it matter, read the red bolded bit, any thoughts ?

gwyn wont respond to that bit because it doesnt fit with the bollox he is spouting

Isn't that just a way of saying we as an organisation don't want to be linked with any such action, but do what you want to. or just as you se fit, to me it's simply a get out clause in case it kicks off.

On the first day of the season the truth will be there for all to see. Most people will wear blue because that's who we are. Many will wear no colours because that's what most lads do. A few with wear red. Gwyn will look like a dick. Gwyn, what is your problem mate? Are you on the Swansea payroll or something? Is BigGwynram actually you?

Can't see where your coming from? the pre seasons friendlies I've been to this year I attended in a blue tee shirt with the I'll be there logo, and for the others a blue club shirt.

My suggestion at the very first meeting was to wear the blue club shirt as a show of our love for the colour and tradition, that was never an issue to me, in fact I don't see that as a protest, more a freedom of choice, VT owns the club and his freedom of choice as the owner is to choose the colour, mine as a customer is to wear what i want.

On the first day of the season the truth will be there for all to see. Most people will wear blue because that's who we are. Many will wear no colours because that's what most lads do. A few with wear red. Gwyn will look like a dick. Gwyn, what is your problem mate? Are you on the Swansea payroll or something? Is BigGwynram actually you?

Gwyn will be wearing his mankini with a ball hanging out each side and his cock pointing forward in a threatening manner!

That will be awkward since my accident during the hundred metre hurdles.

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

Don't see the problem with people who are against the rebrand showing their point of view by holding up blue cards (or whatever is proposed) on 8 mins. Won't effect the team, not distupting anything. whats the issue ?

For the 90 minutes every true fan needs to get behind the team regardless of thoughts on rebrand. Personally i want Cardiff in Blue but i wont protest against the board as it will be detrimental to the 11 players on the pitch.

On the first day of the season the truth will be there for all to see. Most people will wear blue because that's who we are. Many will wear no colours because that's what most lads do. A few with wear red. Gwyn will look like a dick. Gwyn, what is your problem mate? Are you on the Swansea payroll or something? Is BigGwynram actually you?

Can't see where your coming from? the pre seasons friendlies I've been to this year I attended in a blue tee shirt with the I'll be there logo, and for the others a blue club shirt.

My suggestion at the very first meeting was to wear the blue club shirt as a show of our love for the colour and tradition, that was never an issue to me, in fact I don't see that as a protest, more a freedom of choice, VT owns the club and his freedom of choice as the owner is to choose the colour, mine as a customer is to wear what i want.

You confuse me a lot mate! Fair play.

Isn't that just a way of saying we as an organisation don't want to be linked with any such action, but do what you want to. or just as you se fit, to me it's simply a get out clause in case it kicks off.

dont think so, no

not sure why it should kick off either

KCB going for peaceful? Easier said than f**king done.

Now what sort of message does that send out, yet the main bloke behind all this, isn't even coming to any games this season. Talking about giving the bullets to someone else to fire for you. TAKE ANY PROTEST ACTION YOU SEE FIT and will the KCB then wash their hands of you in a way that causes major disruption.

K.C.B. Kill Cardiff's Business.

Because Cardiff City's first choice colour has been Blue since 1908, we have chosen the 8th minute of the game for a one minute, in-game protest. When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment. We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans. The KCB campaign has always maintained that we will protest in peaceful, non-violent and lawful ways.

At the end of the day Gwyn, if people want to protest inside the ground then they will and no matter how many times you post about it on here then there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. So instead of attempting to bully people out of it, be that through these supposed threats of violence, or belittling people on here, just accept that it may happen whether or not you disagree with it.

As i said, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Gwyn your posts over the last couple of days really have been pathetic trying to make others look small why don't you just accept there's going to be protests at the ground and get on with your life instead of constantly trying to put others down on this forum.

And which posts are those, or are we still creating more urban legends along with my list my burying and my threats, all proven hot air.

How about the posts when you taking the piss out of members on this forum with disabilities or has that been forgotten by yourself already ?

Adam, you are trying to create Urban legends, and think that if you keep making these claims often enough, then somehow they will become true, please show us these posts you claim I made, or at the very least quote the statements I supposedly made.
Yes I have taken the piss out of you, along with half the country, because you set yourself up for the ridicule you deserve.

If you are disabled, then I know nowt about your disability, and for the record what is your disability because some of your former school mate are as in the dark as I am? unless being an attention seeking bigoted plank is now recognised.

Most people take what you say with a big pinch of salt, even you must know that, your credibility on here is comical and if you seriously are going into comedy, then you will be a natural.

Many people on here know me and my background and links with disabled people and also the fact that for thirty years my life and the profession I chose to work in was based around disability, so finally yet again I ask either put up or shut up.

I cannot believe you are even refusing to accept that you didn't say such a thing even through people on here clearly seen what you wrote. Absolutely delusional

When the clock reaches 8 minutes, please display your banner and/or card and take whatever other protest action you see fit at that moment.

We have no desire to damage the image of Cardiff City (the re-branding has contributed so much to that already) so at the pre-game protest and during the game, please conduct yourself with dignity and respect fellow fans.

read the red bolded bit, any thoughts ?

What a chicken shit way of wording a statement. It says to take WHATEVER OTHER ACTION YOU SEE FIT and then says CONDUCT YOURSELF WITH DIGNITY.

How can a protest be planned in such detail and then become so woolly when it comes to an in game protest? Everyone knows how certain fans react when given the opportunity. When their thoughts and opinions are not being recognised they take it a little too far.

Why doesn't the statement explain fully what is expected from the in game protest, why isnt there instructions to repeat a certain chant or remain silent whilst standing with your blue card. By giving the the statement ACTION YOU SEE FIT you are asking for provocation, arguments amongst fans and an altogether stinking atmosphere.

I am still for the protest, but if the ACTION YOU SEE FIT causes issues in my area, my support for any further protests will be removed.

can you explain how holding up something blue will "get to the players" ?

The ground will be full of blue and lots of bluearmy, bluebird chants anyway, do you really think theres poeple out there who love this red idea

Hang on mate..........So it's ok to wear blue to the game as a protest but not allowed to hold a banner against the change,I think you lot are making it up as you go along,all sounds a bit hypocritical,anyone who wears blue is actually part of the protest.

I will be wearing my blue shirt to some home games but it definitely will not be as some form of protest. It will be worn with the same feeling as when I wear my red shirt and that is to support Cardiff City FC.

Any protest should never be during the game that is madness as will affect the players and could cause unrest in the ground, all supporters should support during the game and protest before the game and after the game and outside

Gwyn your posts over the last couple of days really have been pathetic trying to make others look small why don't you just accept there's going to be protests at the ground and get on with your life instead of constantly trying to put others down on this forum.

And which posts are those, or are we still creating more urban legends along with my list my burying and my threats, all proven hot air.

How about the posts when you taking the piss out of members on this forum with disabilities or has that been forgotten by yourself already ?

Adam, you are trying to create Urban legends, and think that if you keep making these claims often enough, then somehow they will become true, please show us these posts you claim I made, or at the very least quote the statements I supposedly made.
Yes I have taken the piss out of you, along with half the country, because you set yourself up for the ridicule you deserve.

If you are disabled, then I know nowt about your disability, and for the record what is your disability because some of your former school mate are as in the dark as I am? unless being an attention seeking bigoted plank is now recognised.

Most people take what you say with a big pinch of salt, even you must know that, your credibility on here is comical and if you seriously are going into comedy, then you will be a natural.

Many people on here know me and my background and links with disabled people and also the fact that for thirty years my life and the profession I chose to work in was based around disability, so finally yet again I ask either put up or shut up.

I cannot believe you are even refusing to accept that you didn't say such a thing even through people on here clearly seen what you wrote. Absolutely delusional

If this statement from Angry Man is true than he should back it up with proof, otherwise the moderators should ban him immediately, IMO opinion this is as bad if not worse than anything Roath Magic posted.

Gwyn your posts over the last couple of days really have been pathetic trying to make others look small why don't you just accept there's going to be protests at the ground and get on with your life instead of constantly trying to put others down on this forum.

And which posts are those, or are we still creating more urban legends along with my list my burying and my threats, all proven hot air.

How about the posts when you taking the piss out of members on this forum with disabilities or has that been forgotten by yourself already ?

Adam, you are trying to create Urban legends, and think that if you keep making these claims often enough, then somehow they will become true, please show us these posts you claim I made, or at the very least quote the statements I supposedly made.
Yes I have taken the piss out of you, along with half the country, because you set yourself up for the ridicule you deserve.

If you are disabled, then I know nowt about your disability, and for the record what is your disability because some of your former school mate are as in the dark as I am? unless being an attention seeking bigoted plank is now recognised.

Most people take what you say with a big pinch of salt, even you must know that, your credibility on here is comical and if you seriously are going into comedy, then you will be a natural.

Many people on here know me and my background and links with disabled people and also the fact that for thirty years my life and the profession I chose to work in was based around disability, so finally yet again I ask either put up or shut up.

I cannot believe you are even refusing to accept that you didn't say such a thing even through people on here clearly seen what you wrote. Absolutely delusional

If this statement from Angry Man is true than he should back it up with proof, otherwise the moderators should ban him immediately, IMO opinion this is as bad if not worse than anything Roath Magic posted.

Read: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84117&hilit=+disabilities and you will evn see the likes of Damned Yank clealy stating that he seen what Gwyn stated at the time. Bearing in mindGwyn is actually a moderator surely he should be banned then given your statement..?

Do you actually have any proof of Gwyn mocking people with dissabilities in posts

Gwyn your posts over the last couple of days really have been pathetic trying to make others look small why don't you just accept there's going to be protests at the ground and get on with your life instead of constantly trying to put others down on this forum.

And which posts are those, or are we still creating more urban legends along with my list my burying and my threats, all proven hot air.

How about the posts when you taking the piss out of members on this forum with disabilities or has that been forgotten by yourself already ?

Adam, you are trying to create Urban legends, and think that if you keep making these claims often enough, then somehow they will become true, please show us these posts you claim I made, or at the very least quote the statements I supposedly made.
Yes I have taken the piss out of you, along with half the country, because you set yourself up for the ridicule you deserve.

If you are disabled, then I know nowt about your disability, and for the record what is your disability because some of your former school mate are as in the dark as I am? unless being an attention seeking bigoted plank is now recognised.

Most people take what you say with a big pinch of salt, even you must know that, your credibility on here is comical and if you seriously are going into comedy, then you will be a natural.

Many people on here know me and my background and links with disabled people and also the fact that for thirty years my life and the profession I chose to work in was based around disability, so finally yet again I ask either put up or shut up.

I cannot believe you are even refusing to accept that you didn't say such a thing even through people on here clearly seen what you wrote. Absolutely delusional

Show us the proof Adam, its an easy one for you to win, a few facts and the truth and some proof, and you may have won the first debate in your life.