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cant be bothered arguing with young Cardiff fans, Blue has been the colour since i started supporting them from the 70/80/90/00,s till last season

Boring

Just because you have been supporting longer does not mean you are more of a fan. The sooner you "older generation" realise that the better.

least the older generation understand traditions & history of a football club

Traditions and history don't get you anywhere apart from sentiment and stories. times change and things move on. We are either happy being a sleeping giant as everyone likes to say, or we want to actually have a crack at becoming a decent team and getting into the top division.

I got to be honest, from speaking to people, looking on FB and twitter etc it seems on average the younger generation are more annoyed about the change than the older generation. I got to be honest I don't see what age has to do with anything anyway.

I think the badges on the canton Stand have not been replaced with the new badge but single large Bluebirds.

cant be bothered arguing with young Cardiff fans, Blue has been the colour since i started supporting them from the 70/80/90/00,s till last season

Boring

Just because you have been supporting longer does not mean you are more of a fan. The sooner you "older generation" realise that the better.

least the older generation understand traditions & history of a football club

Traditions and history don't get you anywhere apart from sentiment and stories. times change and things move on. We are either happy being a sleeping giant as everyone likes to say, or we want to actually have a crack at becoming a decent team and getting into the top division.

Having grown up watch City slide from Old Div 2 to Div 4 and then spend 18 years in the lower divisions watching some of the worst teams in the history of the club playing out in front of 2000+ at Ninian Park - I am quite happy where we are today a good championship side - anyone who watched the club then would have been grateful for the return to where we are now - I a

You are right times change & things move on of course, I am sentimental about the past because I was there & of course I would love to see us in the top division - I've waited since 1977 for this and our time will come - I'd love us to be in blue & with a bluebird as the crest when we do it

The best thing about the picture is that they have used the old letters from Ninian Park even though they have sprayed them another colour

cant be bothered arguing with young Cardiff fans, Blue has been the colour since i started supporting them from the 70/80/90/00,s till last season

Boring

Just because you have been supporting longer does not mean you are more of a fan. The sooner you "older generation" realise that the better.

least the older generation understand traditions & history of a football club

Traditions and history don't get you anywhere apart from sentiment and stories. times change and things move on. We are either happy being a sleeping giant as everyone likes to say, or we want to actually have a crack at becoming a decent team and getting into the top division.

Having grown up watch City slide from Old Div 2 to Div 4 and then spend 18 years in the lower divisions watching some of the worst teams in the history of the club playing out in front of 2000+ at Ninian Park - I am quite happy where we are today a good championship side - anyone who watched the club then would have been grateful for the return to where we are now - I a

You are right times change & things move on of course, I am sentimental about the past because I was there & of course I would love to see us in the top division - I've waited since 1977 for this and our time will come - I'd love us to be in blue & with a bluebird as the crest when we do it

The best thing about the picture is that they have used the old letters from Ninian Park even though they have sprayed them another colour

Yes, and nobody appreciates where we have come from more than me.

But as a fan, you have to have ambitions for your team. I want our team to succeed. If that means we play in red, then so be it!

Thing is, you were there nothing can change that. The history every fan remembers 10 years old or 100 is still intact.

I've seen the club in div 4, I've seen the club have one of the worst fan reps in the uk, lately we've seen the club nearly not be a club, we can always go backwards into those leagues, and poss will, but for clubs that come up through the leagues and with it so are to crack and sustain a place in the prem, you only get one shot, by one shot I'd say WBA, going up and down a couple of times was still one shot as they planned it. So let's take a chance. If it fails and we end up like forest, derby etc, does it matter? The owners would prob sell, we could end up back ion blue then etc, and you'd be happy because like you said you are quite happy with being a decent championship club. But trophies and folklaw doesn't occur with complacence, it takes overhauls and chances, pushing the boundaries etc.

So does anyone think the new badge, new colours, might also be there to dispell the past bad rep our club has had? Just asking a question and stirring it...

cant be bothered arguing with young Cardiff fans, Blue has been the colour since i started supporting them from the 70/80/90/00,s till last season

Boring

Just because you have been supporting longer does not mean you are more of a fan. The sooner you "older generation" realise that the better.

least the older generation understand traditions & history of a football club

Traditions and history don't get you anywhere apart from sentiment and stories. times change and things move on. We are either happy being a sleeping giant as everyone likes to say, or we want to actually have a crack at becoming a decent team and getting into the top division.

Having grown up watch City slide from Old Div 2 to Div 4 and then spend 18 years in the lower divisions watching some of the worst teams in the history of the club playing out in front of 2000+ at Ninian Park - I am quite happy where we are today a good championship side - anyone who watched the club then would have been grateful for the return to where we are now - I a

You are right times change & things move on of course, I am sentimental about the past because I was there & of course I would love to see us in the top division - I've waited since 1977 for this and our time will come - I'd love us to be in blue & with a bluebird as the crest when we do it

The best thing about the picture is that they have used the old letters from Ninian Park even though they have sprayed them another colour

Yes, and nobody appreciates where we have come from more than me.

But as a fan, you have to have ambitions for your team. I want our team to succeed. If that means we play in red, then so be it!

Dont mention red apart from that I agree with your other point!

I've seen the club in div 4, I've seen the club have one of the worst fan reps in the uk, lately we've seen the club nearly not be a club, we can always go backwards into those leagues, and poss will, but for clubs that come up through the leagues and with it so are to crack and sustain a place in the prem, you only get one shot, by one shot I'd say WBA, going up and down a couple of times was still one shot as they planned it. So let's take a chance. If it fails and we end up like forest, derby etc, does it matter? The owners would prob sell, we could end up back ion blue then etc, and you'd be happy because like you said you are quite happy with being a decent championship club. But trophies and folklaw doesn't occur with complacence, it takes overhauls and chances, pushing the boundaries etc.

So does anyone think the new badge, new colours, might also be there to dispell the past bad rep our club has had? Just asking a question and stirring it...

Millwall played in white in 1999-2000 did not dispell their rep!! - I'd be quite happy to be like West Brom go up & down and then consolidate our position in the Premiership because the club would be on a decent financial footing by doing so will become financially stable.

Looking at it positively. I LOVE seeing CARDIFF CITY FOOTBALL CLUB across the middle
I'd ALSO rather see a fucked up Cardiff City badge than an egg-chasers one.

Mason and Gunnarrson are obviously not going anywhere any time soon

Serious point though...

There's a big old Bluebird on one facade too.

It would not take a lot for Tan to swop sizes on the new badge for next season
so the Bluebird takes precedence above the Dragon. It would then look better
than the hideous bluebird over a black and yellow background did. Tattooists
nightmare!!!

There's also nothing to stop him incorporating some of the better designs for
new kits we saw over the summer on FB etc and on here.

I'm not saying it will happen. But I dont think the red kits will move very well
so it may end up being a purely business decision.

Those Blue shirts with red blending in from the bottom looked pretty good

Who knows.

I've seen the club in div 4, I've seen the club have one of the worst fan reps in the uk, lately we've seen the club nearly not be a club, we can always go backwards into those leagues, and poss will, but for clubs that come up through the leagues and with it so are to crack and sustain a place in the prem, you only get one shot, by one shot I'd say WBA, going up and down a couple of times was still one shot as they planned it. So let's take a chance. If it fails and we end up like forest, derby etc, does it matter? The owners would prob sell, we could end up back ion blue then etc, and you'd be happy because like you said you are quite happy with being a decent championship club. But trophies and folklaw doesn't occur with complacence, it takes overhauls and chances, pushing the boundaries etc.

So does anyone think the new badge, new colours, might also be there to dispell the past bad rep our club has had? Just asking a question and stirring it...

Millwall played in white in 1999-2000 did not dispell their rep!! - I'd be quite happy to be like West Brom go up & down and then consolidate our position in the Premiership because the club would be on a decent financial footing by doing so will become financially stable.

But we can't be west brom without VT as we would be bust. You can't even get to the championship these days to compete with the finance problems since the end of the sam days.

Millwall haven't done a tap in the leagues for years though have they, I meant change the badge, colours etc so when we do get to the top div and get more exposure, the bad times are history, the focus is on the history of the club since the chang e of colours etc, selling it better t families. I know we have been family club of the year, but the tarnished history still stuck. Far from saying its right, just a thought that's probably very much completely wrong

Looking at it positively. I LOVE seeing CARDIFF CITY FOOTBALL CLUB across the middle
I'd ALSO rather see a fucked up Cardiff City badge than an egg-chasers one.

Mason and Gunnarrson are obviously not going anywhere any time soon

Serious point though...

There's a big old Bluebird on one facade too.

It would not take a lot for Tan to swop sizes on the new badge for next season
so the Bluebird takes precedence above the Dragon. It would then look better
than the hideous bluebird over a black and yellow background did. Tattooists
nightmare!!!

There's also nothing to stop him incorporating some of the better designs for
new kits we saw over the summer on FB etc and on here.

I'm not saying it will happen. But I dont think the red kits will move very well
so it may end up being a purely business decision.

Those Blue shirts with red blending in from the bottom looked pretty goodWho knows.

If it's the kit i'm thinking of it looked really good there was also a fusion of yellow and black and that looked superb anyone got a link to that post or the pictures of the kit?

Hate the badge, but I am a fan of decorations and the ninian park style lettering

rather no badge at all than the beermat...

just been down stadium and it looks good well done to those responsible now lets get on with the games and forget fighting amongst ourselves get behind the team

I've seen the club in div 4, I've seen the club have one of the worst fan reps in the uk, lately we've seen the club nearly not be a club, we can always go backwards into those leagues, and poss will, but for clubs that come up through the leagues and with it so are to crack and sustain a place in the prem, you only get one shot, by one shot I'd say WBA, going up and down a couple of times was still one shot as they planned it. So let's take a chance. If it fails and we end up like forest, derby etc, does it matter? The owners would prob sell, we could end up back ion blue then etc, and you'd be happy because like you said you are quite happy with being a decent championship club. But trophies and folklaw doesn't occur with complacence, it takes overhauls and chances, pushing the boundaries etc.

So does anyone think the new badge, new colours, might also be there to dispell the past bad rep our club has had? Just asking a question and stirring it...

Millwall played in white in 1999-2000 did not dispell their rep!! - I'd be quite happy to be like West Brom go up & down and then consolidate our position in the Premiership because the club would be on a decent financial footing by doing so will become financially stable.

But we can't be west brom without VT as we would be bust. You can't even get to the championship these days to compete with the finance problems since the end of the sam days.

Millwall haven't done a tap in the leagues for years though have they, I meant change the badge, colours etc so when we do get to the top div and get more exposure, the bad times are history, the focus is on the history of the club since the chang e of colours etc, selling it better t families. I know we have been family club of the year, but the tarnished history still stuck. Far from saying its right, just a thought that's probably very much completely wrong

No doubt we would be shafted without without VT and if we did make it to the promissed land the exposure/spin offs would be massive and the debt would become manageable. Our reputation will always go before us and despite no trouble for a long time now the reputation has stuck, changing the colours/badge will not dispell this as we'll still be Cardiff City

I've seen the club in div 4, I've seen the club have one of the worst fan reps in the uk, lately we've seen the club nearly not be a club, we can always go backwards into those leagues, and poss will, but for clubs that come up through the leagues and with it so are to crack and sustain a place in the prem, you only get one shot, by one shot I'd say WBA, going up and down a couple of times was still one shot as they planned it. So let's take a chance. If it fails and we end up like forest, derby etc, does it matter? The owners would prob sell, we could end up back ion blue then etc, and you'd be happy because like you said you are quite happy with being a decent championship club. But trophies and folklaw doesn't occur with complacence, it takes overhauls and chances, pushing the boundaries etc.

So does anyone think the new badge, new colours, might also be there to dispell the past bad rep our club has had? Just asking a question and stirring it...

Millwall played in white in 1999-2000 did not dispell their rep!! - I'd be quite happy to be like West Brom go up & down and then consolidate our position in the Premiership because the club would be on a decent financial footing by doing so will become financially stable.

But we can't be west brom without VT as we would be bust. You can't even get to the championship these days to compete with the finance problems since the end of the sam days.

Millwall haven't done a tap in the leagues for years though have they, I meant change the badge, colours etc so when we do get to the top div and get more exposure, the bad times are history, the focus is on the history of the club since the chang e of colours etc, selling it better t families. I know we have been family club of the year, but the tarnished history still stuck. Far from saying its right, just a thought that's probably very much completely wrong

No doubt we would be shafted without without VT and if we did make it to the promissed land the exposure/spin offs would be massive and the debt would become manageable. Our reputation will always go before us and despite no trouble for a long time now the reputation has stuck, changing the colours/badge will not dispell this as we'll still be Cardiff City

I agree it's a long shot, but just putting it out there. But isn't our debt manageable now? Because as long a VT is around the debt can be paid each month. Same as Chelsea and Man City with there chairman?

I agree it's a long shot, but just putting it out there. But isn't our debt manageable now? Because as long a VT is around the debt can be paid each month. Same as Chelsea and Man City with there chairman?

It will be once Langston/Sam is sorted & debt is converted into equity as previously promissed.

Agree that it will then be more manageable, but still it remains manageable as it is. The statement he put outs about 2 months old, inks still wet on it, so hopefully we give him a chance. Far from having a insight into how big business operates, but I'm guessing it's not an overnight thing or even a couple of months thing.

This could have looked superb with the proper badges as opposed to that scrambled red dragon rubbish, and the players shirts should have both been the correct colour BLUE.
WHAT HAS CARDIFF CITY GOT TO DO WITH RED ?

For the 50000th time, its National colours (Red of Wales)

We are City not Wales..

This could have looked superb with the proper badges as opposed to that scrambled red dragon rubbish, and the players shirts should have both been the correct colour BLUE.
WHAT HAS CARDIFF CITY GOT TO DO WITH RED ?

For the 50000th time, its National colours (Red of Wales)

We are City not Wales..

That's not the question he asked mate. He asked what's city got to do with red.

Cardiff City are Welsh, the Welsh national colours are Red (as explained in VT's initial statement).

This could have looked superb with the proper badges as opposed to that scrambled red dragon rubbish, and the players shirts should have both been the correct colour BLUE.
WHAT HAS CARDIFF CITY GOT TO DO WITH RED ?

For the 50000th time, its National colours (Red of Wales)

We are City not Wales..

That's not the question he asked mate. He asked what's city got to do with red.

Cardiff City are Welsh, the Welsh national colours are Red (as explained in VT's initial statement).

so, does that mean all English teams should play in white

This could have looked superb with the proper badges as opposed to that scrambled red dragon rubbish, and the players shirts should have both been the correct colour BLUE.
WHAT HAS CARDIFF CITY GOT TO DO WITH RED ?

For the 50000th time, its National colours (Red of Wales)

We are City not Wales..

That's not the question he asked mate. He asked what's city got to do with red.

Cardiff City are Welsh, the Welsh national colours are Red (as explained in VT's initial statement).

so, does that mean all English teams should play in white

Exactly what I was thinking.

Our club has NOTHING to do with Wales besides the fact that we are from Wales.
We are a club not a country.

An INSULT that this and the Blues departure wasn't done while still had our true identity. An afterthought now.