POMPEY/PREMIERSHIP ?

I was listening to the radio today and many on there were saying the cause of Pompeys demise was trying to stay in the Premiership and having players on £35,000 a week. Many said they would never have been in this trouble if they had never tried to compete with the big boys.Then once relegated they were still paying these wages.

Interesting.


Any opinions.

Annis, i would love for Cardiff, the club i love, to get to the Premiership... but not if we do it by living outside of our means, and jeopardising our future, or by casually discarding the whole history of our club! neither way is worth it!

i enjoyed supporting Cardiff in division 3, Barnet at home was my first game, as much as i enjoy supporting them now! so for me, none of this is worth it at all!

supporting and loving a club is NOT dependant on what division we are playing in!

when we do make it, i want to be proud of the club, and enjoy it... neither of which i will do if we go up this season!

i really fear for the future of Cardiff City, its a sad, sad time

Scott, I really fear for our future, were now about £87 mill in debt.

I was listening to the radio today and many on there were saying the cause of Pompeys demise was trying to stay in the Premiership and having players on £35,000 to £100,000 a week. Many said they would never have been in this trouble if they had never tried to compete with the big boys.Then once relegated they were still paying these wages.

Interesting.


Any opinions.

Thats stupid business. Should have been something in their contracts stating that if they were regulated, their wage would drop, it would have made the players fight more towards the end of the season to keep their high wage

I was listening to the radio today and many on there were saying the cause of Pompeys demise was trying to stay in the Premiership and having players on £35,000 to £100,000 a week. Many said they would never have been in this trouble if they had never tried to compete with the big boys.Then once relegated they were still paying these wages.

Interesting.


Any opinions.

the prem isn,t worth losing a club over.pompey are a great club with fantastic support but the people running the club failed to learn a lesson.we all know they had big earners then went into admin but did you know that norweigan fellow blues loaned last jan was on a reported 18k pw that lad was purchased i believe after the admin so they did the same thing really on a smaller scale but with only championship sky dollar.when we got relegated we sold a team and still finished 4th.we had to sell to get the debt down.if it means being solvent then it,s worth it.really no player should be on more than 20k pw in the prem at blues.we had 3 loanees on 70k ,60k,and 50k pw.ziggy is still on 50k pw.all the rest are a lot lower now .if you had done it when the debt was lower then tan wouldn,t be here racking up a mega debt (@7%)and splitting fans.i,m sure if pompey go into the conference the fans will take it to have a club run right and start again.the pompey fans deserve better than the people who have run them recently.

It's why I say the FA or even FIFA should make say a 25-40% relegation clause mandatory in all player contracts. That way you won't have to worry about not attracting better players because of a relegation clause as they'll have one whatever club they're at.


Also it would have meant that Swansea would have kept De Vries last season instead of Vorm and would have got relegated so it's win-win

I was listening to the radio today and many on there were saying the cause of Pompeys demise was trying to stay in the Premiership and having players on £35,000 to £100,000 a week. Many said they would never have been in this trouble if they had never tried to compete with the big boys.Then once relegated they were still paying these wages.

Interesting.


Any opinions.

the prem isn,t worth losing a club over.pompey are a great club with fantastic support but the people running the club failed to learn a lesson.we all know they had big earners then went into admin but did you know that norweigan fellow blues loaned last jan was on a reported 18k pw that lad was purchased i believe after the admin so they did the same thing really on a smaller scale but with only championship sky dollar.when we got relegated we sold a team and still finished 4th.we had to sell to get the debt down.if it means being solvent then it,s worth it.really no player should be on more than 20k pw in the prem at blues.we had 3 loanees on 70k ,60k,and 50k pw.ziggy is still on 50k pw.all the rest are a lot lower now .if you had done it when the debt was lower then tan wouldn,t be here racking up a mega debt (@7%)and splitting fans.i,m sure if pompey go into the conference the fans will take it to have a club run right and start again.the pompey fans deserve better than the people who have run them recently.

It's why I say the FA or even FIFA should make say a 25-40% relegation clause mandatory in all player contracts. That way you won't have to worry about not attracting better players because of a relegation clause as they'll have one whatever club they're at.


Also it would have meant that Swansea would have kept De Vries last season instead of Vorm and would have got relegated so it's win-win

might be worth looking at.something needs to be done

No news about Lawrence,but 2 look set to leave Portsmouth in the next day or 2 -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... lford.html

Annis it is not the premiership that ruins a club, it is the people in charge of it, Pompy has had a history in recent years of broken promises and irrisponsable owners. Money is promised and not backed up, no one can say if VT promises can be proved or disproved unless you know his busness dealings, you can only wait and see, the promises that have been made so far have not all been carried out, and some have, people can agree or disagree on these promises, as to whether they are good or bad, so far I,m satisfied with the transfer spending and stadium revamp, and believe it or not I couldn,t give a rats arse if we play in pink, blue, or yellow and I have been watching them since 1955. History and identity can mean many things to different people, I have lived through the years of false dawns, this may be another one I don't know but don't begrudge me the right to dream.

No news about Lawrence,but 2 look set to leave Portsmouth in the next day or 2 -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... lford.html

Tony really glad we never re signed him.

I think Lawrence would have been a decent player... but not on £20k per week. I'd say more like £8k per week and a squad player.

I know a few Wolves fans and they're getting frustrated with how things are going there. The club are rejecting decent bids for Fletcher, Hennessey and Jarvis etc but most of the players want to go. The fans don't think there's any point keeping players against their will and are worried that the big wages these players command is harming the club financially. If they kept all their players and kept them happy I could see Wolves winning this league but it's inevitable the big stars will leave and when they do Wolves will need to rebuild and that will take time.

So yeah, getting to the Premiership is all well and good but it's a financial minefield with thin lines between success and failure.

I was listening to the radio today and many on there were saying the cause of Pompeys demise was trying to stay in the Premiership and having players on £35,000 to £100,000 a week. Many said they would never have been in this trouble if they had never tried to compete with the big boys.Then once relegated they were still paying these wages.

Interesting.


Any opinions.

My opinion is that paying too much to the players at Portsmouth is mirrored by the likes of what the Riddler did at Leeds and Sam Hamman did when he arrived at Cardiff ( wages for Thorne, Kav etc ). If the gamble to reach the promised land of the Prem or in the case of Leeds the champions League, doesn't come off then the club is shafted for years to come.

Why is it pompy/prem? What happened wo middlesbrough, Newport county, Accrington stanley, Scarborough, Darlington. I'm sure there is a lot more of the top of my head. Pompy are a high profile case, but it can happen to anyone of the club is mismanaged. So shouldn't the club just be VT or no VT?

The name of the game is to win games, it's why we all support the club, why we moan when they lose or play badly, and love it when they win, and hit a good run of form, with victories comes success and moving up the leagues and the top league being the prem becomes the promised land. This isn't to say that it's wrong to want to be in the prem. it seems to have become fashionable to say that the prem isn't everything and that the nights in div 3 and 4 are what it's all about.m but I can't find a club that's not been in the prem who has a fan/player/staff member who doesn't think it's the best thing ever. It seems with us that we all want to win games, but that we still slag off those who say they want the club in the premiership. I wonder if this would be the case if it was simply called div 1 like the old days and not the 'premier league'.

I don't want our club to be mismanaged, but it's a bit like the UK it's has financially mismanaged for so long that even with the right Prime Minister or n our case backer, things won't look better from the outside for a good few years as they have years of mistakes t rectify.

We've been spoiled lately with names at our club who we never would have thought were in our reach a few years ago, and with the money that has in hindsight been foolishly been thrown around. But since about 10 years ago we were in the bottom professional league, with no money or prospects, traveling to places like Lincoln on a cold Tuesday, and now we have a regular changing room at Wembley, more international players than I could ever imagine, bellers, a new training complex, sound youth set up, and a decent stadium ( bigger but not better in my eyes) would you really have changed anything knowing that even in the bad times of being in court each week that and having owners who think monies just that stuff off monopoly boards, because we've not done to badly looking back still, our latest owner hasn't had a fair crack of the whip yet, on the base of things is a Forbes billionaire, and if we give him a chance could sort out our finances. Like i said, it's not going to be done overnight, not even if that's what people want, as the club was in far to much trouble and nearly extinct for that t happen. But if we give m a chance, he could actually sort the club out. No doubt he will then look to sell once we do bring in success as I don't think he's a fan or here for anything other than making a profit, but he needs a fair crack of the whip.

But just remember how many other clubs have one out of business in the lower leagues, nevermind the top leagues.

I really hope they dont go bust, Pompey reminded me of Cardiff in the 80's.

Shit then