"Direct threats were made against a section of Cardiff City"

This is all because of the Malaysians.

Lets be fair its not all the Mayalsians.. The fans reactions were over the top and made it out we are in Pompeys position.

This is all because of the Malaysians.

Bit harsh mate, most Malaysians haven't even heard of Cardiff.

This is all because of the Malaysians.

Bit harsh mate, most Malaysians haven't even heard of Cardiff.

true mate

Time for some people to man the f**k up.

Time for some people to man the f**k up.

such as?

A sad day.

The worst since the day the rebrand got the "green light"

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
I should be clear re: earlier tweet. Keep Cardiff Blue were peaceful. A rogue element (non KCB) disrupted the meeting...

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
...they shouted the meeting down, made threats against anyone protesting at the ground and refused to leave when asked.

Simon Gaskell ‏@simongaskell
It was a horrible room to be in and a frightening experience.





DIRECT threats were made against a section of Cardiff City fans last night as an ugly split between supporters reared its head at a public meeting.


Simon Gaskell
Senior Reporter

The meeting had been called at the Municipal Club in Roath for members of Keep Cardiff Blue (KCB) - the campaign group set up in opposition to a decision to play in red as part of a structured £100m investment by the club's Malaysian backer Vincent Tan.

Members of the KCB group had hoped to discuss methods of peaceful protest during pre-season friendlies and the first game of the season versus Huddersfield on August 17 to force a club rethink over the rebranding proposal.

But a rogue section of supporters, worried about the future of the club without the Malaysian investment, turned up uninvited and disrupted the meeting, telling KCB they were powerless to change the club's playing colours ahead of the new season.

The meeting was marred by angry clashes punctuated between the two groups and despite the rogue section - who used foul language throughout - being asked to leave, they repeatedly refused.

They told members of KCB they risked being viewed as "the enemy" if they turned up with banners in protest for the Huddersfield game.

One dissenter from the group said: "If anyone disrupts the team, you are the enemy. I want people here to know, it will not be tolerated."

Other members of KCB were told they would be "buried" if they protested against the changes.

Speaking after the meeting, ex-Bluebirds director Simon Williams said: “It’s a sad day to see Cardiff City fan turn on Cardiff City fan.”

During the meeting, Scott Thomas from KCB was repeatedly shouted down by the group after attempting to talk about plans of action.

He said: "I think people might be less than happy to bring ideas for protest forward given the mood in the room."

During the clashes Mike Roderick, from the KCB campaign group, said: “There’s a division in the fanbase, a terrible division. We can see it here tonight.

“What this campaign is here to do is unify the fans.”

Another fan addressing the meeting said: “What this meeting demonstrates is both sides of Cardiff City. We have always had a lot of fighting spirit.

“We should have been protesting all throughout the summer and should have a permanent protest outside the ground.

“I don’t think this is one of the worst things to happen too Cardiff City, I think it is one of the worst things to ever happen in football.”

Prior to the meeting, Kevin Roper, 43, of Pentyrch, said: “I feel I have had my heart ripped out.

“But do you cut your nose off to spite your face? It’s going to be hard to go into that stadium when it’s a blue stadium, a blue seat and the team In red score – it’s going to be a really awkward feeling.

“Do you say: ‘that’s not us’ or do you cheer?”

Frankie Dee, 48, from Cardiff said: “It’s all about the city of Cardiff and whether you support your side.

“I don’t care whether they are playing Manchester United or Barnet away on a Tuesday or Wednesday night.

“It’s irrelevant – it’s about supporting your club and your town.”


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Simon Gaskell
Senior Reporter
Media Wales

Thanks for the update

This re brand was always going to cause a fans divide I have been saying it for months and people on here just say to me go support another club etc.

The fact is Tan did it and if you want to have a go at someone because they are blue of red then dont because at the end of the day when Tan did all this people had to chose one side or the other.

There is no fence to sit on is there and people have very strong feelings for Cardiff City what the hell did Tan expect.

Take it all to him he did it and as a result weather we see success on the pitch or not and weather are debts are paid or not the end result is always the same DIVIDED FANS supporting the City and that is more disappointing than going in to admin for me.

Just how Tan did it or why is beyond belief .The thing is lets just say this he didnt need to radically change so much to make his investment did he.Many big teams like Real Madrid failed to open up the Asian market but they never sold there soul trying to do it did they.

The consequences out way the benefit in this situation dont they so what the hell did he do it for.The answer is so he could try and make as much money as possible and that is football at the moment but fans should stick up for there clubs but ours didnt did they well not enough of us anyway.

The man should have been stopped from doing all of this it was all to easy in my eyes he took are garrison without a fight and that angers me.

Let the show go on and we will see how it all ends up in a few years time but in the mean time a lot of people are not happy and we are a laughing stock to other fans of other clubs and its true.Its embarrassing but Tan did it not jim who is blue or dave who is red TAN.Go knock his door is what we should be doing.

"KCB is to unify the fans" Yeh right looks like it don't it f*cking tool!

"KCB is to unify the fans" Yeh right looks like it don't it f*cking tool!

Sorry, am I missing something here? Did KCB interrupt and threaten people with violence at a Pro Red meeting?

Open your eyes!!!!!

Ive been told that some of the well known Neville lot have said anyone wearing red is gonna be treated like a jack on saturday, this is getting ridiculous now

The forensic scientist in me has noticed a couple of glaring errors and you've been duped by a parody lone gunman account

- TLG is banned
- There is a full stop after his name
- The avatar is not his
- The grammar certainly does not compare to his
- He no longer supports the club

I think you need to find yourselves an escape goat as you've been royally mugged off

"KCB is to unify the fans" Yeh right looks like it don't it f*cking tool!

Your absolutely right mate... All they have done is segregate fans (knowing deep down that they are a VERY small minority, with BIG ego's, with SMALL brains). Why they think they speak for EVERY fan is beyond me. MOST fans have accepted the change to red, and this KCB group (poorly run by the way judging by the letter to Tan) is just another way of a couple of so called "fans leaders" attempting to flex their muscles.

I for one am slightly glad 120 of them (out of the 20,000 or so fan base) were run out by 6 men last night. (Although I do not condone violence in the slightest) It might put an end to this agenda that the KCB group have, and unite us as fans come the start of the season.

Ive been told that some of the well known Neville lot have said anyone wearing red is gonna be treated like a jack on saturday, this is getting ridiculous now

What about a compromise?

What about a compromise?

Apart from the fact that it looks like a croquet top I quite like it

They resort to threats and violence, that means that they know they lost the argument.

Maybe it is the only way they know how to win an argument.

The shame is there is room to be in favour of the rebrand (so the club can thrive) and understand the aims of KCB to lobby peacefully for the return of the Blue shirt.

Indeed I would predict that 90% of reluctant reds would fall into this category, I certainly do.

What has happened here is a misunderstanding (or mistrust) of two sides of the same argument.

Without apportioning blame I would suggest that the 'Keep Cardiff Blue' pressure group should change its name. The name does suggest confrontation (as it is talking in the present tense) with those who do see the sense of the rebrand.

May be they should go with something like 'Friends of the Blue Shirt' or 'Return Cardiff to Blue Campaign' and totally rule out any kind of in stadium protests, because they are simply self-defeating.

Instead go for open letters (the last one made the newspapers in Malaysia) encourage the wearing of blue shirts (or Welsh ones as a compromise), lobby for a 'Blue home game' (we can play one home game in our away kit per season), launch a fanzine etc. etc.

On the red side I would hope more fans could have my attitude and see a lobby group for the return of the Blue shirt one day as a positive thing and not as a direct rival or disruptive influence.

All this would take a lot of discipline from both sides but it can be done if we learn to trust each other and work together.

The shame is there is room to be in favour of the rebrand (so the club can thrive) and understand the aims of KCB to lobby peacefully for the return of the Blue shirt.

Indeed I would predict that 90% of reluctant reds would fall into this category, I certainly do.

What has happened here is a misunderstanding (or mistrust) of two sides of the same argument.

Without apportioning blame I would suggest that the 'Keep Cardiff Blue' pressure group should change its name. The name does suggest confrontation (as it is talking in the present tense) with those who do see the sense of the rebrand.

May be they should go with something like 'Friends of the Blue Shirt' or 'Return Cardiff to Blue Campaign' and totally rule out any kind of in stadium protests, because they are simply self-defeating.

Instead go for open letters (the last one made the newspapers in Malaysia) encourage the wearing of blue shirts (or Welsh ones as a compromise), lobby for a 'Blue home game' (we can play one home game in our away kit per season), launch a fanzine etc. etc.

On the red side I would hope more fans could have my attitude and see a lobby group for the return of the Blue shirt one day as a positive thing and not as a direct rival or disruptive influence.

All this would take a lot of discipline from both sides but it can be done if we learn to trust each other and work together.

Sensible post.

This is all a mountain out of a molehill. There are barely any KCB supporters, and barely
any people who are 'putting up' with red that want to start an argument about it.

Most are like you (and me)... Red can f**k off as far as im concerned, but its here, its
happening and we have to swallow it for at least a season.

It wont be protests that will bring back the Blue, it will be lack of sales in the Club Shop

The fans who showed up to cause disruption and chaos at the KCB meeting should be ashamed of themselves. Shocking behaviour.

Simply put, buy nothing red from Cardiff City FC. This will hit the pockets of the Malaysians, and show them that the colour change is not acceptable to Cardiff fans.

Anyone I see wearing a red city shirt this season will be seen as nothing more than a sell-out.

The fans who showed up to cause disruption and chaos at the KCB meeting should be ashamed of themselves. Shocking behaviour.

Simply put, buy nothing red from Cardiff City FC. This will hit the pockets of the Malaysians, and show them that the colour change is not acceptable to Cardiff fans.

Anyone I see wearing a red city shirt this season will be seen as nothing more than a sell-out.

A passive protest could involve not buying merchandise from the club shop. Trouble is I think its the merchandise sold well away from CCS which is going to have the most impact.

Im not going to buy any merchandise coz the badge is absolutely naff in my opinion and looks like it was designed by a kid , give us a decent badge and then maybe the colour of shirts can be overlooked . The new grey training tops look good apart from the badge !

Im not going to buy any merchandise coz the badge is absolutely naff in my opinion and looks like it was designed by a kid , give us a decent badge and then maybe the colour of shirts can be overlooked . The new grey training tops look good apart from the badge !

A case of not seeing the woods for the trees Martyn.

The inital goal has to be to change that god dam awful badge and then take it from there.

The fans who showed up to cause disruption and chaos at the KCB meeting should be ashamed of themselves. Shocking behaviour.

Simply put, buy nothing red from Cardiff City FC. This will hit the pockets of the Malaysians, and show them that the colour change is not acceptable to Cardiff fans.

Anyone I see wearing a red city shirt this season will be seen as nothing more than a sell-out.

You cant call everyone wearing the red a sell out

There are thousands of new fans for whom City do not have the same history as
us older people. Some teenage kid who has been watching Cardiff City for two
years may not have the same affiliation to the Bluebird badge or blue shirts.

I'll be gutted to see one person wearing a Red top, but 'sell-out' is not a word that
can be applied to them all

The fans who showed up to cause disruption and chaos at the KCB meeting should be ashamed of themselves. Shocking behaviour.

Simply put, buy nothing red from Cardiff City FC. This will hit the pockets of the Malaysians, and show them that the colour change is not acceptable to Cardiff fans.

Anyone I see wearing a red city shirt this season will be seen as nothing more than a sell-out.

A passive protest could involve not buying merchandise from the club shop. Trouble is I think its the merchandise sold well away from CCS which is going to have the most impact.

Think about where most fake clothing is made. Then wonder if anyone is going to buy official merchandise in those countries, or just buy the much, much cheaper fake option.

Week after week of every fan wearing blue will show the world that the fans are not happy, and will never be.

The fans who showed up to cause disruption and chaos at the KCB meeting should be ashamed of themselves. Shocking behaviour.

Simply put, buy nothing red from Cardiff City FC. This will hit the pockets of the Malaysians, and show them that the colour change is not acceptable to Cardiff fans.

Anyone I see wearing a red city shirt this season will be seen as nothing more than a sell-out.

You cant call everyone wearing the red a sell out

There are thousands of new fans for whom City do not have the same history as
us older people. Some teenage kid who has been watching Cardiff City for two
years may not have the same affiliation to the Bluebird badge or blue shirts.

I'll be gutted to see one person wearing a Red top, but 'sell-out' is not a word that
can be applied to them all

Yes I can, and will always call a 'red wearer' a sell out, regardless of how long they have been a fan. Let's face it, we're hardly a global brand, we don't have fans who know nothing of our history. The fans we have, and 99.9% that will EVER walk up to the turnstiles will be us, born to Cardiff fans, who themselves were born to Cardiff fans.

It's all rather funny.

The fans who showed up to cause disruption and chaos at the KCB meeting should be ashamed of themselves. Shocking behaviour.

Simply put, buy nothing red from Cardiff City FC. This will hit the pockets of the Malaysians, and show them that the colour change is not acceptable to Cardiff fans.

Anyone I see wearing a red city shirt this season will be seen as nothing more than a sell-out.

You cant call everyone wearing the red a sell out

There are thousands of new fans for whom City do not have the same history as
us older people. Some teenage kid who has been watching Cardiff City for two
years may not have the same affiliation to the Bluebird badge or blue shirts.

I'll be gutted to see one person wearing a Red top, but 'sell-out' is not a word that
can be applied to them all

Yes I can, and will always call a 'red wearer' a sell out, regardless of how long they have been a fan. Let's face it, we're hardly a global brand, we don't have fans who know nothing of our history. The fans we have, and 99.9% that will EVER walk up to the turnstiles will be us, born to Cardiff fans, who themselves were born to Cardiff fans.

Then your going to be disappointed.

More so than me probably... Cos I can see it coming a mile off

Nothing would please me more than to see the shelves chocka with red kits
they just cant sell. But over the last few years, the tone of a lot of our fans
has changed. A lot dont care a f**k about our cold nights in Carlisle... they
want the big time, in their shiny new kit, irrespective of colour. They will
be waxing lyrical about being the 'new breed' and how the 'bad old days' of
violence, beer and bad language are gone forever. Lets face it, you even see
rugby tops in there now