VINCENT TAN ANNOUNCES HIS BUSINESS PLAN

Go take a chill pill roath ffs you boring repeative

Go take a chill pill roath ffs you boring repeative

plenty of time to do that next year when we all have no club to support on a saturdays.

Maybe NewCo.Red of the Ryman league?

Wake up.

12 years or so ago Sam H was investing £millions into CCFC and making promoses ...... enough said

Spot on Martyn, he lit the fires and started the ball rolling fair play to him, and if we have to pay ten or fifteen million, whatever, don't think many will begrudge that after you think how far we have come, never thought we'd come this far so quick, he said it would be a roller coaster and he was spot on there.

I was really looking forward to hearing about this business plan Gwyn but the 1st word stopped me reading any further.
"Alledgidly" was the word.
To me that means "Rumour" so i'm going to wait til there is a concret statement before i comment any further.

Duh. For God sake irony is wasted on here, people go on about business plans, and the truth is, it's his money, his risk his gamble, why do we need to know or worry about his BUSINESS PLAN, coz at the end of the day it's his business, if it fails he get's stung, at the end of the day we have come so close to Administration. liquidation etcif the worse case scenario happens we'll have lost no more than we faced losing before he stepped in, and at least we are having a punt and in with a good chance as far as I see it.

Business plan---- Buy a club, invest the needed funds get the right manager and staff and make it succesful then sell it for a profit, ALLEGEDLY, quite simple plan really.

I was really looking forward to hearing about this business plan Gwyn but the 1st word stopped me reading any further.
"Alledgidly" was the word.
To me that means "Rumour" so i'm going to wait til there is a concret statement before i comment any further.

Duh. For God sake irony is wasted on here, people go on about business plans, and the truth is, it's his money, his risk his gamble, why do we need to know or worry about his BUSINESS PLAN, coz at the end of the day it's his business, if it fails he get's stung, at the end of the day we have come so close to Administration. liquidation etcif the worse case scenario happens we'll have lost no more than we faced losing before he stepped in, and at least we are having a punt and in with a good chance as far as I see it.

Business plan---- Buy a club, invest the needed funds get the right manager and staff and make it succesful then sell it for a profit, ALLEGEDLY, quite simple plan really.

Spot on Gwyn

I was really looking forward to hearing about this business plan Gwyn but the 1st word stopped me reading any further.
"Alledgidly" was the word.
To me that means "Rumour" so i'm going to wait til there is a concret statement before i comment any further.

Duh. For God sake irony is wasted on here, people go on about business plans, and the truth is, it's his money, his risk his gamble, why do we need to know or worry about his BUSINESS PLAN, coz at the end of the day it's his business, if it fails he get's stung, at the end of the day we have come so close to Administration. liquidation etcif the worse case scenario happens we'll have lost no more than we faced losing before he stepped in, and at least we are having a punt and in with a good chance as far as I see it.

Business plan---- Buy a club, invest the needed funds get the right manager and staff and make it succesful then sell it for a profit, ALLEGEDLY, quite simple plan really.

So his plan is to buy something and sell it for a profit?.... so he buys something worth £15 million for £90 million yeah ok.

Its not his money and its not his risk, when will you understand that? The minute he takes control of the club.. HE OWNS EVERYHTING WE HAVE, real estate, players the stadium etc. all his.

12 years or so ago Sam H was investing £millions into CCFC and making promoses ...... enough said

Spot on Martyn, he lit the fires and started the ball rolling fair play to him, and if we have to pay ten or fifteen million, whatever, don't think many will begrudge that after you think how far we have come, never thought we'd come this far so quick, he said it would be a roller coaster and he was spot on there.

He might of started it but he left us with a historic debt that has crippled this club - We were quoted that £10m had been set aside to settle "Langstone" now we read it is likely to £15m...........

You'll find that there is a vast majority that have not accepted the rebrand & never will with a colour & a badge is alien to CCFC. That will hit home more than anything on 17th August at 19.45.

we view ourselves as a "Big" club......No other club supporters would accept these changes

I was really looking forward to hearing about this business plan Gwyn but the 1st word stopped me reading any further.
"Alledgidly" was the word.
To me that means "Rumour" so i'm going to wait til there is a concret statement before i comment any further.

Duh. For God sake irony is wasted on here, people go on about business plans, and the truth is, it's his money, his risk his gamble, why do we need to know or worry about his BUSINESS PLAN, coz at the end of the day it's his business, if it fails he get's stung, at the end of the day we have come so close to Administration. liquidation etcif the worse case scenario happens we'll have lost no more than we faced losing before he stepped in, and at least we are having a punt and in with a good chance as far as I see it.

Business plan---- Buy a club, invest the needed funds get the right manager and staff and make it succesful then sell it for a profit, ALLEGEDLY, quite simple plan really.

So his plan is to buy something and sell it for a profit?.... so he buys something worth £15 million for £90 million yeah ok.

Its not his money and its not his risk, when will you understand that? The minute he takes control of the club.. HE OWNS EVERYHTING WE HAVE, real estate, players the stadium etc. all his.

Just like every other business really

THE REAL BUSINESS PLAN

TG informs Tan of a good investment opportunity, £6 million for 40% of a club in a strong position for promotion and the Sky money and a vessel for advertising his companies. Made cheap due to their financial trouble, it also gives him scope to loan to the club with an interest rate of 7%....

The promotion bid fails and we face winding up orders, putting his investment at risk. He decides this would be a perfect opportunity to loan the club money to stave off these while earning 7% interest and protecting his investment at the same time...

We fail in promotion again and he faces a new threat to his investment - Sam. Sam has the ability to take the club into administration, Tan knows the club cant afford that and he would lose the majority of the massive investment he has spent to protect his money...

Tan decides to get rid of any third party that could threaten his investment so he negotiates to pay them off leaving himself as sole creditior. He will then take control of the club owning EVERYTHING from player registrations to the stadium and his unsecured loan has instantly become a secured one.

THAT i how businesmen work. Not buying something worth £15 million for £90 million (a tenth of his total worth) while losing £15 million a year and then just crossing your fingers that we may have some decent kids coming through the academy one day.

Ill say it again - WAKE UP!!

THE REAL BUSINESS PLAN

TG informs Tan of a good investment opportunity, £6 million for 40% of a club in a strong position for promotion and the Sky money and a vessel for advertising his companies. Made cheap due to their financial trouble, it also gives him scope to loan to the club with an interest rate of 7%....

The promotion bid fails and we face winding up orders, putting his investment at risk. He decides this would be a perfect opportunity to loan the club money to stave off these while earning 7% interest and protecting his investment at the same time...

We fail in promotion again and he faces a new threat to his investment - Sam. Sam has the ability to take the club into administration, Tan knows the club cant afford that and he would lose the majority of the massive investment he has spent to protect his money...

Tan decides to get rid of any third party that could threaten his investment so he negotiates to pay them off leaving himself as sole creditior. He will then take control of the club owning EVERYTHING from player registrations to the stadium and his unsecured loan has instantly become a secured one.

THAT i how businesmen work. Not buying something worth £15 million for £90 million (a tenth of his total worth) while losing £15 million a year and then just crossing your fingers that we may have some decent kids coming through the academy one day.

Ill say it again - WAKE UP!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw

Allegedly, he has told people his plan is to make Cardiff a successful Premier League club, with a bigger world class stadium.
With training facilities that are some of the best in the country and a youth academy that churns out Aaron Ramsey's by the bus load.

He wants the name Cardiff City to symbolise a link between a huge far Eastern area that is growing financially at a rate of knots and is begging out for links with the most successful sport and biggest league in the world, he wants to build on our Welsh heritage and national pride and bring to cultures closer together through our sporting links.

It is obvious to see that the U.K. for whatever reason is seen as a country that many others want to have links with, not just the far East, but the middle East and India, the investment and links between these countries and the U.K. appear to develop every day, is it because the U.K is seen as the old image of Stiff Upper Lip old school heritage that others with money want to buy into, many people want to be seen as accepted into the old boys network, why else do so many of these world wide Billionaires send their kids here to be educated. what we see as a mess in some respects, others see as culture and prestige.

Possibly when people like the Abramovich's and other billionaires get to the stage when making money get's to easy, they need the excitement and rush that simple money making business's just don't supply, possibly the kudos and competitive one up-manship that football brings.

It must be great to get simply bored of making money hand over fist, how much can one man spend, how many yachts and home s and planes do you need. Perhaps owning a football club is seen as a status symbol, sadly it seems that way and modern football with all the advertising and TV rights that go with it may be seen as spoiling the OLD GAME.

What I will say is that I live through the old game and had loads of great times, but loads of crap ones as well, if people still search for those old days, then they are still out there, go watch Merthyr live from month to month on a tight budget, but don't kid yourself that their players are playing for the badge or local loyalties, they are dreaming of advancing as far as they can and if you think any of them would turn down a ten grand a week wage to play in the League, then dream on.

As a fan I have spent all my life looking forward and any success whilst being enjoyed as simply stimulated me to want more and better, perhaps ambition and progress are part of life, I'm sure Man United fans are constantly striving for bigger and better every year, even though by many they are seen as to of the pile.

Now back to VT's business plan, make the club successful, enjoy the adulation and kudos and possibly sell it on in a few years time for a massive profit, sounds OK to me, if he's got the financial clout and backing to fund his vison, then that sounds like a plan to me.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Allegedly, he has told people his plan is to make Cardiff a successful Premier League club, with a bigger world class stadium.
With training facilities that are some of the best in the country and a youth academy that churns out Aaron Ramsey's by the bus load.

He wants the name Cardiff City to symbolise a link between a huge far Eastern area that is growing financially at a rate of knots and is begging out for links with the most successful sport and biggest league in the world, he wants to build on our Welsh heritage and national pride and bring to cultures closer together through our sporting links.

It is obvious to see that the U.K. for whatever reason is seen as a country that many others want to have links with, not just the far East, but the middle East and India, the investment and links between these countries and the U.K. appear to develop every day, is it because the U.K is seen as the old image of Stiff Upper Lip old school heritage that others with money want to buy into, many people want to be seen as accepted into the old boys network, why else do so many of these world wide Billionaires send their kids here to be educated. what we see as a mess in some respects, others see as culture and prestige.

Possibly when people like the Abramovich's and other billionaires get to the stage when making money get's to easy, they need the excitement and rush that simple money making business's just don't supply, possibly the kudos and competitive one up-manship that football brings.

It must be great to get simply bored of making money hand over fist, how much can one man spend, how many yachts and home s and planes do you need. Perhaps owning a football club is seen as a status symbol, sadly it seems that way and modern football with all the advertising and TV rights that go with it may be seen as spoiling the OLD GAME.

What I will say is that I live through the old game and had loads of great times, but loads of crap ones as well, if people still search for those old days, then they are still out there, go watch Merthyr live from month to month on a tight budget, but don't kid yourself that their players are playing for the badge or local loyalties, they are dreaming of advancing as far as they can and if you think any of them would turn down a ten grand a week wage to play in the League, then dream on.

As a fan I have spent all my life looking forward and any success whilst being enjoyed as simply stimulated me to want more and better, perhaps ambition and progress are part of life, I'm sure Man United fans are constantly striving for bigger and better every year, even though by many they are seen as to of the pile.

Now back to VT's business plan, make the club successful, enjoy the adulation and kudos and possibly sell it on in a few years time for a massive profit, sounds OK to me, if he's got the financial clout and backing to fund his vison, then that sounds like a plan to me.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares? what difference will that make to the club?

It doent mean he will forget about the £60-90 million hes put in, it means the debt wont be on the books, devaluing the business.

There is no way on earth anyone is going to be making £90 million back from any club, especially one that loses £15-£18 million a year.

So ask yourself, how else is he going to get his money back?

Allegedly, he has told people his plan is to make Cardiff a successful Premier League club, with a bigger world class stadium.
With training facilities that are some of the best in the country and a youth academy that churns out Aaron Ramsey's by the bus load.

He wants the name Cardiff City to symbolise a link between a huge far Eastern area that is growing financially at a rate of knots and is begging out for links with the most successful sport and biggest league in the world, he wants to build on our Welsh heritage and national pride and bring to cultures closer together through our sporting links.

It is obvious to see that the U.K. for whatever reason is seen as a country that many others want to have links with, not just the far East, but the middle East and India, the investment and links between these countries and the U.K. appear to develop every day, is it because the U.K is seen as the old image of Stiff Upper Lip old school heritage that others with money want to buy into, many people want to be seen as accepted into the old boys network, why else do so many of these world wide Billionaires send their kids here to be educated. what we see as a mess in some respects, others see as culture and prestige.

Possibly when people like the Abramovich's and other billionaires get to the stage when making money get's to easy, they need the excitement and rush that simple money making business's just don't supply, possibly the kudos and competitive one up-manship that football brings.

It must be great to get simply bored of making money hand over fist, how much can one man spend, how many yachts and home s and planes do you need. Perhaps owning a football club is seen as a status symbol, sadly it seems that way and modern football with all the advertising and TV rights that go with it may be seen as spoiling the OLD GAME.

What I will say is that I live through the old game and had loads of great times, but loads of crap ones as well, if people still search for those old days, then they are still out there, go watch Merthyr live from month to month on a tight budget, but don't kid yourself that their players are playing for the badge or local loyalties, they are dreaming of advancing as far as they can and if you think any of them would turn down a ten grand a week wage to play in the League, then dream on.

As a fan I have spent all my life looking forward and any success whilst being enjoyed as simply stimulated me to want more and better, perhaps ambition and progress are part of life, I'm sure Man United fans are constantly striving for bigger and better every year, even though by many they are seen as to of the pile.

Now back to VT's business plan, make the club successful, enjoy the adulation and kudos and possibly sell it on in a few years time for a massive profit, sounds OK to me, if he's got the financial clout and backing to fund his vison, then that sounds like a plan to me.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares? what difference will that make to the club?

It doent mean he will forget about the £60-90 million hes put in, it means the debt wont be on the books, devaluing the business.

There is no way on earth anyone is going to be making £90 million back from any club, especially one that loses £15-£18 million a year.

So ask yourself, how else is he going to get his money back?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares?

Shouldn't that be "we"?

Allegedly, he has told people his plan is to make Cardiff a successful Premier League club, with a bigger world class stadium.
With training facilities that are some of the best in the country and a youth academy that churns out Aaron Ramsey's by the bus load.

He wants the name Cardiff City to symbolise a link between a huge far Eastern area that is growing financially at a rate of knots and is begging out for links with the most successful sport and biggest league in the world, he wants to build on our Welsh heritage and national pride and bring to cultures closer together through our sporting links.

It is obvious to see that the U.K. for whatever reason is seen as a country that many others want to have links with, not just the far East, but the middle East and India, the investment and links between these countries and the U.K. appear to develop every day, is it because the U.K is seen as the old image of Stiff Upper Lip old school heritage that others with money want to buy into, many people want to be seen as accepted into the old boys network, why else do so many of these world wide Billionaires send their kids here to be educated. what we see as a mess in some respects, others see as culture and prestige.

Possibly when people like the Abramovich's and other billionaires get to the stage when making money get's to easy, they need the excitement and rush that simple money making business's just don't supply, possibly the kudos and competitive one up-manship that football brings.

It must be great to get simply bored of making money hand over fist, how much can one man spend, how many yachts and home s and planes do you need. Perhaps owning a football club is seen as a status symbol, sadly it seems that way and modern football with all the advertising and TV rights that go with it may be seen as spoiling the OLD GAME.

What I will say is that I live through the old game and had loads of great times, but loads of crap ones as well, if people still search for those old days, then they are still out there, go watch Merthyr live from month to month on a tight budget, but don't kid yourself that their players are playing for the badge or local loyalties, they are dreaming of advancing as far as they can and if you think any of them would turn down a ten grand a week wage to play in the League, then dream on.

As a fan I have spent all my life looking forward and any success whilst being enjoyed as simply stimulated me to want more and better, perhaps ambition and progress are part of life, I'm sure Man United fans are constantly striving for bigger and better every year, even though by many they are seen as to of the pile.

Now back to VT's business plan, make the club successful, enjoy the adulation and kudos and possibly sell it on in a few years time for a massive profit, sounds OK to me, if he's got the financial clout and backing to fund his vison, then that sounds like a plan to me.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares? what difference will that make to the club?

It doent mean he will forget about the £60-90 million hes put in, it means the debt wont be on the books, devaluing the business.

There is no way on earth anyone is going to be making £90 million back from any club, especially one that loses £15-£18 million a year.

So ask yourself, how else is he going to get his money back?

I will feel more confitable 'if' that was to happen and thats my personal feelings on it.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares?

Shouldn't that be "we"?

Now where's that link on YouTube for "True Colours"?

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares?

Shouldn't that be "we"?

He lives on Balaclava Road in Cardiff - allegedly. He's a Cardiff City fan - allegedly.

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares?

Shouldn't that be "we"?

He lives on Balaclava Road in Cardiff - allegedly. He's a Cardiff City fan - allegedly.

OK, I shall take your word for it mate.

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares?

Shouldn't that be "we"?

He lives on Balaclava Road in Cardiff - allegedly. He's a Cardiff City fan - allegedly.

OK, I shall take your word for it mate.

I asked him if he has renewed his season ticket and he replied no.

Does that mean he doesn't like football, or something else?

Allegedly, he has told people his plan is to make Cardiff a successful Premier League club, with a bigger world class stadium.
With training facilities that are some of the best in the country and a youth academy that churns out Aaron Ramsey's by the bus load.

He wants the name Cardiff City to symbolise a link between a huge far Eastern area that is growing financially at a rate of knots and is begging out for links with the most successful sport and biggest league in the world, he wants to build on our Welsh heritage and national pride and bring to cultures closer together through our sporting links.

It is obvious to see that the U.K. for whatever reason is seen as a country that many others want to have links with, not just the far East, but the middle East and India, the investment and links between these countries and the U.K. appear to develop every day, is it because the U.K is seen as the old image of Stiff Upper Lip old school heritage that others with money want to buy into, many people want to be seen as accepted into the old boys network, why else do so many of these world wide Billionaires send their kids here to be educated. what we see as a mess in some respects, others see as culture and prestige.

Possibly when people like the Abramovich's and other billionaires get to the stage when making money get's to easy, they need the excitement and rush that simple money making business's just don't supply, possibly the kudos and competitive one up-manship that football brings.

It must be great to get simply bored of making money hand over fist, how much can one man spend, how many yachts and home s and planes do you need. Perhaps owning a football club is seen as a status symbol, sadly it seems that way and modern football with all the advertising and TV rights that go with it may be seen as spoiling the OLD GAME.

What I will say is that I live through the old game and had loads of great times, but loads of crap ones as well, if people still search for those old days, then they are still out there, go watch Merthyr live from month to month on a tight budget, but don't kid yourself that their players are playing for the badge or local loyalties, they are dreaming of advancing as far as they can and if you think any of them would turn down a ten grand a week wage to play in the League, then dream on.

As a fan I have spent all my life looking forward and any success whilst being enjoyed as simply stimulated me to want more and better, perhaps ambition and progress are part of life, I'm sure Man United fans are constantly striving for bigger and better every year, even though by many they are seen as to of the pile.

Now back to VT's business plan, make the club successful, enjoy the adulation and kudos and possibly sell it on in a few years time for a massive profit, sounds OK to me, if he's got the financial clout and backing to fund his vison, then that sounds like a plan to me.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares? what difference will that make to the club?

It doent mean he will forget about the £60-90 million hes put in, it means the debt wont be on the books, devaluing the business.

There is no way on earth anyone is going to be making £90 million back from any club, especially one that loses £15-£18 million a year.

So ask yourself, how else is he going to get his money back?

I will feel more confitable 'if' that was to happen and thats my personal feelings on it.

Thats what its designed to do. It makes absolutely no difference in reality.

Allegedly, he has told people his plan is to make Cardiff a successful Premier League club, with a bigger world class stadium.
With training facilities that are some of the best in the country and a youth academy that churns out Aaron Ramsey's by the bus load.

He wants the name Cardiff City to symbolise a link between a huge far Eastern area that is growing financially at a rate of knots and is begging out for links with the most successful sport and biggest league in the world, he wants to build on our Welsh heritage and national pride and bring to cultures closer together through our sporting links.

It is obvious to see that the U.K. for whatever reason is seen as a country that many others want to have links with, not just the far East, but the middle East and India, the investment and links between these countries and the U.K. appear to develop every day, is it because the U.K is seen as the old image of Stiff Upper Lip old school heritage that others with money want to buy into, many people want to be seen as accepted into the old boys network, why else do so many of these world wide Billionaires send their kids here to be educated. what we see as a mess in some respects, others see as culture and prestige.

Possibly when people like the Abramovich's and other billionaires get to the stage when making money get's to easy, they need the excitement and rush that simple money making business's just don't supply, possibly the kudos and competitive one up-manship that football brings.

It must be great to get simply bored of making money hand over fist, how much can one man spend, how many yachts and home s and planes do you need. Perhaps owning a football club is seen as a status symbol, sadly it seems that way and modern football with all the advertising and TV rights that go with it may be seen as spoiling the OLD GAME.

What I will say is that I live through the old game and had loads of great times, but loads of crap ones as well, if people still search for those old days, then they are still out there, go watch Merthyr live from month to month on a tight budget, but don't kid yourself that their players are playing for the badge or local loyalties, they are dreaming of advancing as far as they can and if you think any of them would turn down a ten grand a week wage to play in the League, then dream on.

As a fan I have spent all my life looking forward and any success whilst being enjoyed as simply stimulated me to want more and better, perhaps ambition and progress are part of life, I'm sure Man United fans are constantly striving for bigger and better every year, even though by many they are seen as to of the pile.

Now back to VT's business plan, make the club successful, enjoy the adulation and kudos and possibly sell it on in a few years time for a massive profit, sounds OK to me, if he's got the financial clout and backing to fund his vison, then that sounds like a plan to me.

I'm sorry but this is just pure propaganda and will continue to be until the debt is turned into shares

Why do you think you will be eased by the debt turning into shares? what difference will that make to the club?

It doent mean he will forget about the £60-90 million hes put in, it means the debt wont be on the books, devaluing the business.

There is no way on earth anyone is going to be making £90 million back from any club, especially one that loses £15-£18 million a year.

So ask yourself, how else is he going to get his money back?

I will feel more confitable 'if' that was to happen and thats my personal feelings on it.

Thats what its designed to do. It makes absolutely no difference in reality.

That's it then, it's the end of the club.
You might as well stop posting on here now then.

You joke about it yet we are probably the closest to ending as a club as we ever have been.

You joke about it yet we are probably the closest to ending as a club as we ever have been.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw

do you really think many people are going to bother clicking on the same youtube link you post everytime you cant debate or try to get my attention?

do you really think many people are going to bother clicking on the same youtube link you post everytime you cant debate or try to get my attention?

Still wrapped up in your own little world.

Cheer up.

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

You just seem to say things, anything. Whether it relates to the situation or not.

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

You just seem to say things, anything. Whether it relates to the situation or not.

Cheer up.

see

Sorry Gwyn but I shut off when I read "allegedly " in your opening sentence.
I shall keep the faith thou

see

I see a grump.

Cheer up.