How exactly did sam get done over?

Forever blue wrote

Who did the business plan for Sam ?
Who also was responsible for the drawings/architects and getting everything done ?
And who do they work for now ?

Steve Davies wrote
annis i dont know the answer to any of those questions but regardless of business plans sam did not have the funding available.
the thread was about how sam left the club and not an anti sam or anti pmg rant and dont even get me started about ridsdale[/quote]


Steve,

1.John Rosier now working for PMG
2. All the Architects were brought in by Paul Guy.

So all those people Sam thought he could trust were all Paul Guys men and u really never knew Steve. [/quote]

Why did sam have to sign the club over if he didnt want to and where does the riddler come into it?

Forever blue wrote

Who did the business plan for Sam ?
Who also was responsible for the drawings/architects and getting everything done ?
And who do they work for now ?

Steve Davies wrote
annis i dont know the answer to any of those questions but regardless of business plans sam did not have the funding available.
the thread was about how sam left the club and not an anti sam or anti pmg rant and dont even get me started about ridsdale

Steve,

1.John Rosier now working for PMG
2. All the Architects were brought in by Paul Guy.

So all those people Sam thought he could trust were all Paul Guys men and u really never knew Steve. [/quote]

Why did sam have to sign the club over if he didnt want to and where does the riddler come into it?[/quote]


Jinks, I have written it in the past 100's of times and u know it.
I will write a brief post on it.
Sam ran out of money, the Riddler stabbed him the back, Sam was at his lowest point, he could not get the stadium due to his personal arguments with Rodney Bernman, leader of Cardiff Council. Sam was not smart in his dealings with the council. Paul Guy and the Riddler had done a number on him and were waiting in the wings and bang they took the club, but made fortunes out of us, but never paying debts off or many future debts made by the Riddler.

he could not get the stadium due to his personal arguments with Rodney Bernman, leader of Cardiff Council. Sam was not smart in his dealings with the council. Paul Guy and the Riddler had done a number on him and were waiting in the wings and bang they took the club, but made fortunes out of us, but never paying debts off or many future debts made by the Riddler.

In which case I'm glad they did a number on him because without a new stadium the club was completely fecked.

Perhaps it's a shame that Sam got done over, but he spent all that money and as you admitted in your post, couldn't deliver the stadium. If he couldn't deliver what he set out to do then that's his own fault. Business is a ruthless world.

he could not get the stadium due to his personal arguments with Rodney Bernman, leader of Cardiff Council. Sam was not smart in his dealings with the council. Paul Guy and the Riddler had done a number on him and were waiting in the wings and bang they took the club, but made fortunes out of us, but never paying debts off or many future debts made by the Riddler.

In which case I'm glad they did a number on him because without a new stadium the club was completely fecked.

Perhaps it's a shame that Sam got done over, but he spent all that money and as you admitted in your post, couldn't deliver the stadium. If he couldn't deliver what he set out to do then that's his own fault. Business is a ruthless world.

I'm not glad anyone does any number on anyone.
But yes it is Sams own fault, by getting carried away,making to many mistakes and your right Business is a ruthless world.

he could not get the stadium due to his personal arguments with Rodney Bernman, leader of Cardiff Council. Sam was not smart in his dealings with the council. Paul Guy and the Riddler had done a number on him and were waiting in the wings and bang they took the club, but made fortunes out of us, but never paying debts off or many future debts made by the Riddler.

In which case I'm glad they did a number on him because without a new stadium the club was completely fecked.

Perhaps it's a shame that Sam got done over, but he spent all that money and as you admitted in your post, couldn't deliver the stadium. If he couldn't deliver what he set out to do then that's his own fault. Business is a ruthless world.

I'm not glad anyone does any number on anyone.
But yes it is Sams own fault, by getting carried away,making to many mistakes and your right Business is a ruthless world.

Agree that in usual circumstances I would never want anyone to have a number done on them. The only exception would be if it was for the greater good. In this instance the survival of the club certainly is for the greater good.

It looks like sam messed up big time and others who had the cash and know how just took over and did what sam was going to do..

It looks like sam messed up big time and others who had the cash and know how just took over and did what sam was going to do..

It was a perfect storm unfortunately for Sam Hammam. He was up against a vindictive Council Leader, a selfish turncoat and a ruthless businessman who was based on his own patch and knew how to manipulate his contacts.

It looks like sam messed up big time and others who had the cash and know how just took over and did what sam was going to do..

It was a perfect storm unfortunately for Sam Hammam. He was up against a vindictive Council Leader, a selfish turncoat and a ruthless businessman who was based on his own patch and knew how to manipulate his contacts.

I think they only did what sam was going to do with the land etc but like Annis says pmg have taken or made millions out of it with little coming into cardiff city

didnt sam sell the ground at wimbledon an make them homeless
an make millions out of it.
what goes round comes round

didnt sam sell the ground at wimbledon an make them homeless
an make millions out of it.
what goes round comes round