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Re: SHOULD CARDIFF CITY FC BE RUN BY A COMMITTEE

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:40 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Gwyn, great suggestion. Some sort of committee would probably make a great/positive difference. :ayatollah:



Of course it is, they can all vote and decide how VT should risk his money to suit them then. ;)


Absolutely. It would also create an extra level of due diligence for VT, therefore reducing some of his risk exposure.

We'll make a businessman of you yet!

Re: SHOULD CARDIFF CITY FC BE RUN BY A COMMITTEE

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:47 pm

since62 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Interesting topic Gwyn but I'm totally against committees running football clubs. Yes it can be done at a very lower level because of the small figures involved but you need people who understand economics to run a football club.

Whilst I agree that the club is Tans to legally do what he wants with it. I don't understand what benefit is has to the club when a move spilts the support as much.



So let's say this Billionaire business man has a long term plan that is based around this red theme, and he is prepares to go along with that scheme and risk a hundred million pounds of his money.
Should he, as the owner be forced to tell us these plans, even if it is confidential and involves a third party who don't want it made public at the moment, and it puts the plan at risk?



So if such a scenario exists , would you not expect that business man to tell the executive directors of the company he is investing in what that plan is? After all , it is them not him that have the legal and fiduciary duty to run the business on a day to day basis. At present , VT has no such responsibility - he is a creditor and minority shareholder.

There is nothing to suggest that he has told either the Chief Executive or the Finance Director. indeed , if you recall at the meeting on 8 May you and I attended with others , Alan Whiteley confirmed that he had not been told any business reason for the change of colours.


Major, Minor shareholder whatever Tan is the future unless you have other Ideas, he works in a global market and it seems he is including CCFC in those plans, the CEO is working for the club at a National level and his duty is to run the club within those confines. No I would not expect Tan to commit to the CEO certain plans/Ideas outside his remit, the Kit is a different matter. Gwyn certainly has a good point and you'r post does little to suggest otherwise.

Re: SHOULD CARDIFF CITY FC BE RUN BY A COMMITTEE

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:12 pm

since62 wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Interesting topic Gwyn but I'm totally against committees running football clubs. Yes it can be done at a very lower level because of the small figures involved but you need people who understand economics to run a football club.

Whilst I agree that the club is Tans to legally do what he wants with it. I don't understand what benefit is has to the club when a move spilts the support as much.



So let's say this Billionaire business man has a long term plan that is based around this red theme, and he is prepares to go along with that scheme and risk a hundred million pounds of his money.
Should he, as the owner be forced to tell us these plans, even if it is confidential and involves a third party who don't want it made public at the moment, and it puts the plan at risk?



So if such a scenario exists , would you not expect that business man to tell the executive directors of the company he is investing in what that plan is? After all, it is them not him that have the legal and fiduciary duty to run the business on a day to day basis. At present, VT has no such responsibility - he is a creditor and minority shareholder.


Sorry to interject here Keith, as I and many others on here, are not invited to any of the meetings at the club and neither are we party to any of the inside information that you, Gwyn and many other so called fans leaders, clearly receive on occasion!

I'd have to say however, that it would surely be down to whether VT or TG trusts any of the directors to keep his financial plan(s) a secret or not, especially when one of the directors, however much good he has done for the club in the past, seems to pass information onto many prominent posters on this message board, which invariably gets posted here and on CCMB!

I'd be shocked if TG wasn't fully aware of any plans that VT has for our club and I'd hope that he at least trusted Alan Whitely with the information as well!

However, there's seen so much inside information leaked on this and other message boards over the past couple of years, that is IMO, deeply embarrassing and which cannot be good for the club!

If VT has got a plan to use the colour red, other than to give the club a new dynamism and focus the club (VT's words) on making Cardiff City a more marketable, profitable and viable business, then IMO, he should keep the information to himself, or at least only divulge it to his closest aides! :ayatollah:

Re: SHOULD CARDIFF CITY FC BE RUN BY A COMMITTEE

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:46 pm

Gwyn,
Your mate Sam said we'd be bigger than Barcelona. Wish we had a set up like them!?
A club owned by its members
http://www.barcelona-tourist-guide.com/ ... story.html
Not a bad club