"Bluebirds fans form group to oppose change to red home kit"

what aload of shit ,time to move on now lads ,youve read the statement from vt why we are being rebranded,if they leave we are in shit worse than rangers cause we play in the english league under the welsh fa we will be playing in the league of wales if you go under so all this talk about 10 point deduction get our club back is bollocks time to wise up and follow CARDIFF CITY ! WHAT EVER COLOURS WE PLAY IN WE WILL ALWAYS BE CARDIFF CITY FACT !

I think the statement from VT shows he realises how much he has split the fans , there is no logic behind this

me and you go back a long way and I have to say I disagree with you

Some answers to why we are going red and what have we gained by doing it would be nice in this thread because as we stand we are in no better position than the start of last season in being served with LOANS but all this for what???? somebody tell us what we are going to gain from this because as i see it we have lost more than gained rite now as im typing this.

Some answers to why we are going red and what have we gained by doing it would be nice in this thread because as we stand we are in no better position than the start of last season in being served with LOANS but all this for what???? somebody tell us what we are going to gain from this because as i see it we have lost more than gained rite now as im typing this.

We will bring in some big money signings, that i am convinced of.......Tan aint stupid, he knows marquee signings will appease most fans.

I just don't get it.......The club have said that the change WILL happen this season. Even the most hard-nosed anti-red fan can surely see that the logistics of not going ahead with the change are impossible for this season now. Talks have been announced with fans regarding the implementation of future plans, the badge etc. Someone would surely mention that some fans are not happy with the change of colour during them talks. I don't see the need for another group. Especially one that is advocating withdrawing all financial input from fans.

If anyone's interested, I'm forming a group of fans who are reluctantly willing to give change a chance. We will be called 'Cardiff City Fans' and meet at all home games. There will be no committee and no agendas, just enjoy the great value your season tickets give you, wear your colours with pride, red or blue, and have a great day out supporting our team, Cardiff City, as we head for the Premier League.....you don't have to buy the beer though!

We all know we are playing in red next season. We intend to make it the ONLY season, no red seats, no permanent damage that would cost a stack of cash to implement and then a lot more cash to reverse.

Your stance is fair enough, you obviously feel that the changes have tilted the balance in a favourable way for the club as a whole and are content. Your entitlement.

I feel personally that we are being asked to give up everything that I supported the club for in the first place and being charged 6% interest for the privilege, on the gamble that we reach the premier league, which means spending more on players, on wages etc, to get there and pay rises, bonuses and a continual squad improvement needed to stay there. Portsmouth spent years in the Premier League, received parachute payments, won the FA Cup and played in Europe and look where they are.

The premiership dream is just fuelling my belief that some people just turn up to watch the opposition. If they turned up to support Cardiff City then we would've had a much larger attendance for games against Leyton Orient and Bournemouth when the same eleven players played for Cardiff as the ones who knocked Manchester City out of the FA cup.

You don't want to reach the Premier League then, at least you've cleared that up! We have been asked to give up a blue home shirt and to change our badge.....I did not support Cardiff City because they wore blue, if I liked blue that much, I might have chosen Chelsea or Everton. I did not support Cardiff City because they had a nice badge either. I support Cardiff City because they are my home town club and will support them whatever colour their shirts are, whatever the badge looks like.

Rangers owed HMRC ridiculous amounts, thats where the CVA failed. We owe HMRC nothing.

If we took a 10 point hit and got our club and badge back then so be it.[/quote]


Craig, its not as simple as taking a simple 10 point hit.

Read up on administration its very serious, Tan would never allow that he would lose millions.

The HMRC are just a creditor, they like any company can request a company to go into compulsory liquidation if they break any terms of agreement.

Langstone for example can request the same with us, its just with Rangers the HMRC were owed the most.

Admin is not the answer to this.

Keep Cardiff blue

Rangers owed HMRC ridiculous amounts, thats where the CVA failed. We owe HMRC nothing.

If we took a 10 point hit and got our club and badge back then so be it.

Craig, its not as simple as taking a simple 10 point hit.

Read up on administration its very serious, Tan would never allow that he would lose millions.

The HMRC are just a creditor, they like any company can request a company to go into compulsory liquidation if they break any terms of agreement.

Langstone for example can request the same with us, its just with Rangers the HMRC were owed the most.

Admin is not the answer to this.[/quote]

I agree admin isnt the answer......but why is changing our colours and badge?

Keep Cardiff blue

Absolutely

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

Rangers owed HMRC ridiculous amounts, thats where the CVA failed. We owe HMRC nothing.

If we took a 10 point hit and got our club and badge back then so be it.

Craig, its not as simple as taking a simple 10 point hit.

Read up on administration its very serious, Tan would never allow that he would lose millions.

The HMRC are just a creditor, they like any company can request a company to go into compulsory liquidation if they break any terms of agreement.

Langstone for example can request the same with us, its just with Rangers the HMRC were owed the most.

Admin is not the answer to this.

I agree admin isnt the answer......but why is changing our colours and badge?[/quote]


Same as my other post ..........

Listen, none of us and I mean none of us includeing the so called fans leaders, know what there plans are.

All the messages ive seen on this board are not factual, until Tan or anyone at the club tells us otherwise, Wait and see what happens.

The rebrand is going ahead thats fact, listen its his club. I personally think and is this my own opinion that he will clear the historic debt, produce a club with not only a very sustainable playing squad, a state of the art training facility and a state of the art stadium. Also, if he does what most think he will do and float CCFC in Asia, this club would be worth millions.

All for £100 million that he has ploughed into it, he could sell the club and easily double or treble his money.

Remember, its business to him, he is a self made billionaire, he is not stupid at all.

He dont care we beat the the dirty Leeds in the FA Cup, he dont care about Robin Friday and he dont care about Fred Keenor and the 1927 team. Its a business and he is out to make money

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

Well I doubt you could get 1000s of fans in the ninian pub(and it could have been) which was where the meeting was at plus it was a selected pick of people so obviously you know nothing about it or how it started.

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

It was started to get some ideas together and to see where we go. There are plenty more people who will register their interest.

Rangers owed HMRC ridiculous amounts, thats where the CVA failed. We owe HMRC nothing.

If we took a 10 point hit and got our club and badge back then so be it.

Craig, its not as simple as taking a simple 10 point hit.

Read up on administration its very serious, Tan would never allow that he would lose millions.

The HMRC are just a creditor, they like any company can request a company to go into compulsory liquidation if they break any terms of agreement.

Langstone for example can request the same with us, its just with Rangers the HMRC were owed the most.

Admin is not the answer to this.

I agree admin isnt the answer......but why is changing our colours and badge?

Same as my other post ..........

Listen, none of us and I mean none of us includeing the so called fans leaders, know what there plans are.

All the messages ive seen on this board are not factual, until Tan or anyone at the club tells us otherwise, Wait and see what happens.

The rebrand is going ahead thats fact, listen its his club. I personally think and is this my own opinion that he will clear the historic debt, produce a club with not only a very sustainable playing squad, a state of the art training facility and a state of the art stadium. Also, if he does what most think he will do and float CCFC in Asia, this club would be worth millions.

All for £100 million that he has ploughed into it, he could sell the club and easily double or treble his money.

Remember, its business to him, he is a self made billionaire, he is not stupid at all.

He dont care we beat the the dirty Leeds in the FA Cup, he dont care about Robin Friday and he dont care about Fred Keenor and the 1927 team. Its a business and he is out to make money[/quote]


thats a fair and valid post, but the intial investment should be 1/ clearing the debt and 2/ invest in the playing squad... after all its what on the pitch that counts in all this...

the training ground and stadium expansion should not be a priority while we are an average championship team... if last season was as so successful as people are saying, why didnt we fill our stadium for any fixture?? increasing the capacity should not be in the plans until we are an established prem club..

i feel the club are dressing us up like an asian go go girl just to make us more attractive to look at...

Bluebirds fans form group to oppose change to red home kit
By Simon Gaskell, WalesOnlineJun 20 2012
keepcardiffblue@mail.com

Cardiff City fans opposed to radical changes to the club’s colours and badge have set up a campaign group to fight the change.


The group, called Keep Cardiff Blue, was founded at a private meeting at the Ninian Pub on Monday evening.

A group of 50 fans were invited to discuss their response to changes linked to a £100m rebranding sanctioned by the club following its proposal by Malaysian backer Malaysian Vincent Tan.

Out of the discussion Keep Cardiff Blue was formed and long-time supporters Mike Roderick, Clive Fussell, Scott Thomas and Mark Watkins were nominated to co-ordinate the group’s activities.


Mr Roderick, 55, who has supported the club since he was nine, said they hoped to promote a “menu” of activity to put pressure on the club’s owners to revert back to blue.

Mr Roderick said: “What we want to do is try to appeal to those people who have reluctantly accepted the red and explain to them there’s no earthly reason why we should do this.

“We should be suggesting various actions people can take to put pressure on the owners to come back to blue.

“What we want to do is put together a menu of action people can take – the entry level is if you go to games make sure you wear blue.

“We would also suggest people don’t buy anything from the club shop, don’t spend any money at the stadium on food and drink – those kind of actions that anybody can take.

“For the more serious among us, we would encourage them to ask for a refund on their season ticket, ask them not to renew their season ticket.

“All of these actions are suggested as ways we can put pressure on people to return to blue.”

By yesterday, the group already had a central email address keepcardiffblue@mail.com and a website is expected imminently.

Scott Thomas, of Keep Cardiff Blue, said the formation of the group was the first chance fans had to have their say since the rebranding was leaked six weeks ago.

He said: “It’s an umbrella organisation to channel what I would say is pretty strong opposition.

“I think, to a certain extent, the support has spent time being a little bit shell-shocked and let the club get on the front foot.

“Monday night was the first chance for various strands of support to talk about things.”



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I want to know what are the alternatives if the Malasians say F**k you and walk away, probably some of the idiots will be happy to see us go backwards, lunatics running the ASYLUM springs to mind here

so realisticly they are trying to tur us against our owners

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

Well I doubt you could get 1000s of fans in the ninian pub(and it could have been) which was where the meeting was at plus it was a selected pick of people so obviously you know nothing about it or how it started.

It was in the Ninian Pub? Thanks for clearing that up. I'm heartbroken that I wasn't invited to an elitist nobhead meeting.

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

It was started to get some ideas together and to see where we go. There are plenty more people who will register their interest.

No doubt. But on the basis that people wanting to return to red flooded to the club in their thousands, this wont concern them.

so realisticly they are trying to tur us against our owners

The aim is not to turn against the malaysians, the group is NOT anti malaysian one bit. The aim is via peaceful protest and talking with the club to hopefully get Tan and co to understand what we feel they have done to our club....trampled on our history. Im sure they didnt mean it and didnt realise what colours and a badge mean to some of the supporters. You dont feel that way, that is your right. This is my right.

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

Well I doubt you could get 1000s of fans in the ninian pub(and it could have been) which was where the meeting was at plus it was a selected pick of people so obviously you know nothing about it or how it started.

It was in the Ninian Pub? Thanks for clearing that up. I'm heartbroken that I wasn't invited to an elitist nobhead meeting.

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

It was started to get some ideas together and to see where we go. There are plenty more people who will register their interest.

No doubt. But on the basis that people wanting to return to red flooded to the club in their thousands, this wont concern them.

You think it doesnt concern them.....

Why did Tan release a statement outlining his "intentions?"

Why have the club agreed to meet season ticket holders who want a refund?

Its not about the 50 of us that were there, its about people now have an outlet of like minded people who feel the same as us. You dont agree, its up to you, dont knock those who do

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

Well I doubt you could get 1000s of fans in the ninian pub(and it could have been) which was where the meeting was at plus it was a selected pick of people so obviously you know nothing about it or how it started.

It was in the Ninian Pub? Thanks for clearing that up. I'm heartbroken that I wasn't invited to an elitist nobhead meeting.

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

It was started to get some ideas together and to see where we go. There are plenty more people who will register their interest.

No doubt. But on the basis that people wanting to return to red flooded to the club in their thousands, this wont concern them.

Obviously it does concern them as they wouldnt have asked the 50 or so fans who asked for a refund on their ST to a meeting.

so realisticly they are trying to tur us against our owners

not at all

you are making things up now

Let the fight back begin....Hopefully this voice will be heard, Keep our identity, and keep Cardiff City BLUE...

so realisticly they are trying to tur us against our owners

The aim is not to turn against the malaysians, the group is NOT anti malaysian one bit. The aim is via peaceful protest and talking with the club to hopefully get Tan and co to understand what we feel they have done to our club....trampled on our history. Im sure they didnt mean it and didnt realise what colours and a badge mean to some of the supporters. You dont feel that way, that is your right. This is my right.

i dont want the club to change colours but if it helps us in the future so be it

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

Well I doubt you could get 1000s of fans in the ninian pub(and it could have been) which was where the meeting was at plus it was a selected pick of people so obviously you know nothing about it or how it started.

It was in the Ninian Pub? Thanks for clearing that up. I'm heartbroken that I wasn't invited to an elitist nobhead meeting.

50 fans eh? I'm sure the club are bricking it.

It was started to get some ideas together and to see where we go. There are plenty more people who will register their interest.

No doubt. But on the basis that people wanting to return to red flooded to the club in their thousands, this wont concern them.

You think it doesnt concern them.....

Why did Tan release a statement outlining his "intentions?"

Why have the club agreed to meet season ticket holders who want a refund?

Its not about the 50 of us that were there, its about people now have an outlet of like minded people who feel the same as us. You dont agree, its up to you, dont knock those who do

No, because they know those fans are replaceable.

Norma perfunctory actions to keep the masses happy. People have pointed out how it is normal propaganda.

And why can't I knock those who do? People on here are obsessed with the sanctity of opinion. No, combat is good for us, revel in it.

That's right Craig no one wants the Malaysians gone, but they have trampled over our heritage without even a glance. If we had done that to him we'd be labelled Racists. Yes we need Tan, but we also need our identity which is the Blue white and Yellow. This Red malarkey and China don't wash with me. Both Malaysia and China national teams play in BLUE

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I fully back the KeepCardiffBlue group. Well done for doing something like this, would happily join you if I werent living on the continent...

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The problem is Nukes, that you only read what you want to on here and if you'd been paying attention, you'd realise that this is their away kit!

I have got no gripe with those who are oppossed to the rebrand forming an action group with a view to changing back, indeed that is my long term goal to see the Blue shirts return.

However, this 'menu' thing can't have anything in it that would hurt the club or supporters who openly embrace the change. I would also add that before this goes anywhere, the group will have to explain an alternative plan to finance the club which doesn't involve administration.

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The problem is Nukes, that you only read what you want to on here and if you'd been paying attention, you'd realise that this is their away kit!

I heard that China's away kit is blue so they can sell loads of shirts in Cardiff.

I have got no gripe with those who are oppossed to the rebrand forming an action group with a view to changing back, indeed that is my long term goal to see the Blue shirts return.

However, this 'menu' thing can't have anything in it that would hurt the club or supporters who openly embrace the change. I would also add that before this goes anywhere, the group will have to explain an alternative plan to finance the club which doesn't involve administration.

Why would they need to explain a finance plan tony can you not see its the same one that's been going on since they arrived the word LOANS nothing has changed for this rebrand like it was stated when it come to light so what's the diffrence to now and the start of last season NOTHING, we have gained nothing bar lost are colour/badge for what? Tell me what have we gained for this ? More loans like the last two years? You seem to come up with things get your points are void to start with. Please enlighten us all to what we have gained for doing all this and how is the club any better off than it was last season or the season before. The thing is your only reply to everyone is THE MONEY THERE PUTTING IN to keep us going, well tony what have they done to ease that for the last two seasons? Tell us all please.