NEW WELSH CREDIT CARDS, LOOKS GREAT !

Oldest language in Europe and growing.

Oldest language in Europe and growing.

I'm pretty certain its Basque

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh !

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh !

Just because they dont want to learn the language doesnt make them any less Welshh than you. So please stop with all the plastic welshman bollucks. I can barely speak it but I do plan to at some point when i have enough time. There is no NEED to learn it straight away as I doubt I will ever need to use it

Oldest language in Europe and growing.

I'm the oldest member on this this forum and my posts are growing and you want me banned.

Oh the f*cking irony.

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh !

Just because they dont want to learn the language doesnt make them any less Welshh than you. So please stop with all the plastic welshman bollucks. I can barely speak it but I do plan to at some point when i have enough time. There is no NEED to learn it straight away as I doubt I will ever need to use it

If thats aimed at me?

I have no problem with Welsh people who cannot speak the language. The vast majority of
people in Cardiff cannot speak Welsh yet it is the most fervent patriotic city in Wales.

I do however believe Welsh people who slag off the Welsh language are the lowest of the low.

I can just imagine them on holiday in spain having a laugh and a joke with some English/Scottish
Irish people and taking the piss out of their fellow country men and the language. Sadly, they do
not realise that the joke is on them.

The Welsh language and the Church in Wales' adamant refusal to give up its language and its refusal
to preach the gospel in Welsh is at the very heart of the reason why Welsh people take no shit today.

But thats Welsh history. Not taught in school years ago. The haters are more clued up on the wars of
the roses and David Beckhams newest haircut

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh !

Just because they dont want to learn the language doesnt make them any less Welshh than you. So please stop with all the plastic welshman bollucks. I can barely speak it but I do plan to at some point when i have enough time. There is no NEED to learn it straight away as I doubt I will ever need to use it

If thats aimed at me?

I have no problem with Welsh people who cannot speak the language. The vast majority of
people in Cardiff cannot speak Welsh yet it is the most fervent patriotic city in Wales.

I do however believe Welsh people who slag off the Welsh language are the lowest of the low.

I can just imagine them on holiday in spain having a laugh and a joke with some English/Scottish
Irish people and taking the piss out of their fellow country men and the language. Sadly, they do
not realise that the joke is on them.

The Welsh language and the Church in Wales' adamant refusal to give up its language and its refusal
to preach the gospel in Welsh is at the very heart of the reason why Welsh people take no shit today.

But thats Welsh history. Not taught in school years ago. The haters are more clued up on the wars of
the roses and David Beckhams newest haircut

It wasn't really aimed at you I do agree that slagging off the Welsh language it pretty dull for patriotic welshman. Its people like Welshcitydragon that use the Welsh Language as a bit of a one-up against others who cannot speak it and have no interest.

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh !

Just because they dont want to learn the language doesnt make them any less Welshh than you. So please stop with all the plastic welshman bollucks. I can barely speak it but I do plan to at some point when i have enough time. There is no NEED to learn it straight away as I doubt I will ever need to use it

If thats aimed at me?

I have no problem with Welsh people who cannot speak the language. The vast majority of
people in Cardiff cannot speak Welsh yet it is the most fervent patriotic city in Wales.

I do however believe Welsh people who slag off the Welsh language are the lowest of the low.

I can just imagine them on holiday in spain having a laugh and a joke with some English/Scottish
Irish people and taking the piss out of their fellow country men and the language. Sadly, they do
not realise that the joke is on them.

The Welsh language and the Church in Wales' adamant refusal to give up its language and its refusal
to preach the gospel in Welsh is at the very heart of the reason why Welsh people take no shit today.

But thats Welsh history. Not taught in school years ago. The haters are more clued up on the wars of
the roses and David Beckhams newest haircut

It wasn't really aimed at you I do agree that slagging off the Welsh language it pretty dull for patriotic welshman. Its people like Welshcitydragon that use the Welsh Language as a bit of a one-up against others who cannot speak it and have no interest.

Well slagging off people who cannot speak the language is dull too.

We are lucky it still exists. Our neighbours have spend 700 years trying to
kill it off, its a miracle so many still do speak Welsh.

Nationalist or not, we should all be proud of that.

I dont think WelshCityDragon speaks Welsh by the way lol

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh !

Just because they dont want to learn the language doesnt make them any less Welshh than you. So please stop with all the plastic welshman bollucks. I can barely speak it but I do plan to at some point when i have enough time. There is no NEED to learn it straight away as I doubt I will ever need to use it

If thats aimed at me?

I have no problem with Welsh people who cannot speak the language. The vast majority of
people in Cardiff cannot speak Welsh yet it is the most fervent patriotic city in Wales.

I do however believe Welsh people who slag off the Welsh language are the lowest of the low.

I can just imagine them on holiday in spain having a laugh and a joke with some English/Scottish
Irish people and taking the piss out of their fellow country men and the language. Sadly, they do
not realise that the joke is on them.

The Welsh language and the Church in Wales' adamant refusal to give up its language and its refusal
to preach the gospel in Welsh is at the very heart of the reason why Welsh people take no shit today.

But thats Welsh history. Not taught in school years ago. The haters are more clued up on the wars of
the roses and David Beckhams newest haircut

It wasn't really aimed at you I do agree that slagging off the Welsh language it pretty dull for patriotic welshman. Its people like Welshcitydragon that use the Welsh Language as a bit of a one-up against others who cannot speak it and have no interest.

Well slagging off people who cannot speak the language is dull too.

We are lucky it still exists. Our neighbours have spend 700 years trying to
kill it off, its a miracle so many still do speak Welsh.

Nationalist or not, we should all be proud of that.

I dont think WelshCityDragon speaks Welsh by the way lol

t a.i read your post the other day and meant to post a reply.loved it.it came across pro welsh rather than anti english.it is fine to be patriotic for your country.i, love england but hating another country doesn,t make me more english.it,s actually taking time up from me loving my own country.i,m also british but regarding speaking welsh or scottish to me it,s something if people want to do then they should do it.if we stay together in the union then the small differences amongst us will be a strength not a weakness.in england there are many different accents and each region has different histories yet nobody is more english than the other.seems to me in parts of wales some people consider themselves more welsh than people from other areas.the helmet and the leek quote made me smile.my dads workmate fitted that decription.my dad said he was one of the finest men he ever worked with.to me when i think of welshmen that fellows face always comes into my mind.

Your Right I dont speak Welsh, But I do understand a little of it and I dont slag people off who dont speak it, what I do slag off is people who put the Welsh language and Welsh people down. I even brought my children back to Wales so they could learn the language and now both my son, Iolo & daughter Gwenyth Angharard both speak Welsh. Also they will learn all about there Welsh history .

Your Right I dont speak Welsh, But I do understand a little of it and I dont slag people off who dont speak it, what I do slag off is people who put the Welsh language and Welsh people down. I even brought my children back to Wales so they could learn the language and now both my son, Iolo & daughter Gwenyth Angharard both speak Welsh. Also they will learn all about there Welsh history .

Your an odious hypocritical scrotum.

and you're a sad, repetitive, boring, narrow minded old man!

Your Right I dont speak Welsh, But I do understand a little of it and I dont slag people off who dont speak it, what I do slag off is people who put the Welsh language and Welsh people down. I even brought my children back to Wales so they could learn the language and now both my son, Iolo & daughter Gwenyth Angharard both speak Welsh. Also they will learn all about there Welsh history .

Ah ok I thought you could speak it. I just dont agree with your reason to call people "plastic welshman"

as you know, I am not Welsh. But tbh, if I was, I would learn to speak Welsh.

Language is a vital part of your culture, heritage and your national identity. This has nothing to do with being opposed to progress or internationalism. Protect your history, learn and speak the Welsh language, your language.

I tried to learn bit n pieces in Welsh, know how to greet a person, how to introduce myself, where I'm coming from etc. Thanks to an old friend of mine from Cardiff, who taught me, and the "Learn Welsh Podcast" which I got off the internet. Hope to speak the language properly one day.

Why? Cos I feel I got to show my respect for the country and for the people who live in Wales. I came as a foreigner and left as a friend, I feel very much at home in Cardiff. "German by birth, Welsh and Cardiffian by heart", like a great friend of mine once said...

Cymru am-byth, y ddraig goch ddyry gychwyn... (unless its the City crest)

Well no arguments about people being nationalist or loyalist its a
question of chioce and belief.But here we have people slagging
off the Welsh language and then saying how proud they are to be
'Welsh and British' in the very next breath.

Absolute ignorant pricks.

One fact. Its the stubborn refusal to give up our language that has
kept Welsh 'different' in the first place. Like it or lump it, that is
without question.

So keep on slagging off your heritage knobheads

Miners helmets and huge leeks do not a Welshman make

100% Agree with that, Its a little like the card Plastic Welsh , if we can call them Welsh ! [/quote]

Just because they dont want to learn the language doesnt make them any less Welshh than you. So please stop with all the plastic welshman bollucks. I can barely speak it but I do plan to at some point when i have enough time. There is no NEED to learn it straight away as I doubt I will ever need to use it[/quote]

If thats aimed at me?

I have no problem with Welsh people who cannot speak the language. The vast majority of
people in Cardiff cannot speak Welsh yet it is the most fervent patriotic city in Wales.

I do however believe Welsh people who slag off the Welsh language are the lowest of the low.

I can just imagine them on holiday in spain having a laugh and a joke with some English/Scottish
Irish people and taking the piss out of their fellow country men and the language. Sadly, they do
not realise that the joke is on them.

The Welsh language and the Church in Wales' adamant refusal to give up its language and its refusal
to preach the gospel in Welsh is at the very heart of the reason why Welsh people take no shit today.

But thats Welsh history. Not taught in school years ago. The haters are more clued up on the wars of
the roses and David Beckhams newest haircut[/quote]

It wasn't really aimed at you I do agree that slagging off the Welsh language it pretty dull for patriotic welshman. Its people like Welshcitydragon that use the Welsh Language as a bit of a one-up against others who cannot speak it and have no interest.[/quote]

Well slagging off people who cannot speak the language is dull too.

We are lucky it still exists. Our neighbours have spend 700 years trying to
kill it off, its a miracle so many still do speak Welsh.

Nationalist or not, we should all be proud of that.

I dont think WelshCityDragon speaks Welsh by the way lol[/quote]
t a.i read your post the other day and meant to post a reply.loved it.it came across pro welsh rather than anti english.it is fine to be patriotic for your country.i, love england but hating another country doesn,t make me more english.it,s actually taking time up from me loving my own country.i,m also british but regarding speaking welsh or scottish to me it,s something if people want to do then they should do it.if we stay together in the union then the small differences amongst us will be a strength not a weakness.in england there are many different accents and each region has different histories yet nobody is more english than the other.seems to me in parts of wales some people consider themselves more welsh than people from other areas.the helmet and the leek quote made me smile.my dads workmate fitted that decription.my dad said he was one of the finest men he ever worked with.to me when i think of welshmen that fellows face always comes into my mind.[/quote]

Feudal Wales. Thats our heritage. Back in the day, feudal law dictated that when the Prince
of Wales died (and if he was ruling alone, it was probably after defeating HIS brothers in
battle) died, the land was shared equally amongst his sons. So Wales has always been pretty
much split into four regions. We've always fought each other England tried
and failed to defeat the Welsh time and time and time again until one clever fucker, King Edward
the Potato thought "f**k it, lets get them fighting each other instead"... Divide and rule.thats why
we bicker so much. Welsh people were discouraged from speaking their own language and punished
in schools, forced to wear WELSH NOT crosses round their necks. In strong Welsh speaking areas
like where my family was from the resentment still runs deep, all English people get the blame. Its
a shame because in this day and age, most English people I know that move to Wales seem genuinely
chuffed when their kids say "bore da" or "nos da" or some such basics.. they love that they are living
here (its their choice after all) and love that their kids are picking up little bits... The primary school
by where I lived in Llanrumney is a Welsh medium school and the waiting list to get in there is huge!!
Llanrumney..who'd have thought it. Over the last twenty years there is a new found love of the language
and its growing. Thats a f*cking miracle given the attempts made to kill it off over the years. Its a
testament to how stubborn, determined and strong our nation can be. The majority of Welsh people
cannot speak the language, yet are still proud Welshmen.

British? I have no problem with people who are proud to be British. Fucks sake I got friends and relatives
who are risking getting killed every day in the forces, I'm no hypocrite. Nowt wrong with Britain. But
(theroretically) why can Wales not stand alone BESIDE the other nations. It dont mean we will start asking
for passports or declare war on Bristol

I like the English, Scots, and the Irish. but I consider myself Welsh, end of really.

Welsh people who wish the language would die though? and there are a few on here?

I'll let the English/German and Irish posters make their own minds up about those
issue ridden saddos

Your Right I dont speak Welsh, But I do understand a little of it and I dont slag people off who dont speak it, what I do slag off is people who put the Welsh language and Welsh people down. I even brought my children back to Wales so they could learn the language and now both my son, Iolo & daughter Gwenyth Angharard both speak Welsh. Also they will learn all about there Welsh history .

Ah ok I thought you could speak it. I just dont agree with your reason to call people "plastic welshman"

To me a Plastic Welshman is someone who says there Welsh but don't stand up to protect the language and of there Home land. In other word they are only Welsh when it suites them to be Welsh and then only up to a point.
AS for me speaking Welsh ,as I said and now getting sick of saying it, I don't speak full Welsh ,But I do use the words I know to my children who now do speak Welsh,and I tell them to speak Welsh as much as they can, Just over 2 years ago they didn't speak any Welsh , but now they speak it really well. I'm proud that I may not speak Full Well myself. BUT! I have brought up my son and daughter to speak there Language and they know more about the true history of Wales than most of the plastic so called Welshmen on here.

very fair t.a.tbh if i lived in wales and had a young family i would send them to a school that at least taught welsh .yes for the buisness world and in the main outside world english is essential but having a basic grasp of the native tongue would be good and morally right.one day this independence question will be asked of the english too.i,d rather us stay together but if we did split i,d prefer to be outside the e.u apart from trading.one of the nationalist points is that they ,be it welsh/scottish want to be part of the e.u.a lot of english feel that means instead of collecting money from london the new nations would get it of brussels via london.i don,t agree with that so for that reason if england ever go it alone we should be out of the e.u so if we fail then it,s our mess and a mess WE,as english people have to sort out.

Your Right I dont speak Welsh, But I do understand a little of it and I dont slag people off who dont speak it, what I do slag off is people who put the Welsh language and Welsh people down. I even brought my children back to Wales so they could learn the language and now both my son, Iolo & daughter Gwenyth Angharard both speak Welsh. Also they will learn all about there Welsh history .

Ah ok I thought you could speak it. I just dont agree with your reason to call people "plastic welshman"

To me a Plastic Welshman is someone who says there Welsh but don't stand up to protect the language and of there Home land. In other word they are only Welsh when it suites them to be Welsh and then only up to a point.
AS for me speaking Welsh ,as I said and now getting sick of saying it, I don't speak full Welsh ,But I do use the words I know to my children who now do speak Welsh,and I tell them to speak Welsh as much as they can, Just over 2 years ago they didn't speak any Welsh , but now they speak it really well. I'm proud that I may not speak Full Well myself. BUT! I have brought up my son and daughter to speak there Language and they know more about the true history of Wales than most of the plastic so called Welshmen on here.

Fair enough. I still don't agree but I get your reasoning. The one problem about learning our history is that Welsh history is not really taught in the Welsh education system at all, which I do think should change.

Your Right I dont speak Welsh, But I do understand a little of it and I dont slag people off who dont speak it, what I do slag off is people who put the Welsh language and Welsh people down. I even brought my children back to Wales so they could learn the language and now both my son, Iolo & daughter Gwenyth Angharard both speak Welsh. Also they will learn all about there Welsh history .

Ah ok I thought you could speak it. I just dont agree with your reason to call people "plastic welshman"

To me a Plastic Welshman is someone who says there Welsh but don't stand up to protect the language and of there Home land. In other word they are only Welsh when it suites them to be Welsh and then only up to a point.
AS for me speaking Welsh ,as I said and now getting sick of saying it, I don't speak full Welsh ,But I do use the words I know to my children who now do speak Welsh,and I tell them to speak Welsh as much as they can, Just over 2 years ago they didn't speak any Welsh , but now they speak it really well. I'm proud that I may not speak Full Well myself. BUT! I have brought up my son and daughter to speak there Language and they know more about the true history of Wales than most of the plastic so called Welshmen on here.

Fair enough. I still don't agree but I get your reasoning. The one problem about learning our history is that Welsh history is not really taught in the Welsh education system at all, which I do think should change.

You dont agree about what ? me calling people plastic Welshmen ? well if someone says I thing to you then something to some other person you would call them a 2 face tw*t ? Well I use the word plastic, and for a Welshman to only be a Welshman when it suite them , I cant think of anythig more plastic. As for History the english education is to blame for that, they stopped Welsh in schools and also Welsh History in schools Why ? Cos its one of the best ways to kill and language and to kill the pride of a Nation ,when that Nation is only fed on english history. Also Remember alot of what england claim to be great english victorys the Welsh had a great hand in it , Agincourt for one. even before the foot soliders moved the Welsh bowmen killed more than half of the French ,yes on TV when you hear about it , they claim it as a great english Victory.

I could also go on about Nelson , and Drake but it would take too long. I will just say this, Drake was a Cornishman, and No Cornishman I know would claim to be english. Call a true Cornishman an englishman he would take your head off.