IRA

What about the other people in Northern Ireland , that didnt want to be united with Ireland and wanted to stay a part of the uk? there are so many parts to this problem , i dont think it could ever be resolved , and as far as violence and terrorism is concerned , THERE ARE many stories that would make your hair curl. also a lot in the public domain from all sides involved in this conflict!!

Who in fact are the majority in Northern Ireland

agree protestants are the majority, as where the catholics are the minority,

how about supporting the Nazis, would you want the Welsh people to do that too..?

Don't bother making a comment like that unless you've seen the documentary.

As a distance family member of mine had his ship sank in the Irish sea by the Germans because of Irish help then I think I'm entitled to make a comment like that

And another thing which is slightly off the mark as that all you hear about these days are the bad things about the British Empire. However the good things far outweigh the bad things and places like Ireland, India, Australia all wouldn't be as developed as it is today had it not been for the British Empire

Watched a documentry about them, the other day, yes I know I'm young and I've got Irish family but I'd always regarded them as terrorists untill I seen this! What they done was stand up for themselves as the British Army waltzed in and shot dead innnocent people! They believed their land should be free and they stood up for it! If only Wales had the same drive, not that I'm saying its right to use that much force! Open to debate and please(1948) dont resort to petty comments and abuse!

So you watched a documentry eh and now feel confidently qualified to comment on the IRA.What happened over there(is still happening) is the study of many years and those that have done so are still not as quick as you to form an opinion.And it may have passed you by but all the violence and the atrocsities commited by whatever side only led to what they should have done in the first place,i.e.,enter a political process-and for their sakes and ours long may that continue.

I watched a documentry iv got irish decent and all they did was stand up for themselves,tell you what watch a few more documentry's as all they are is propaganda to potray the british solidiers in a bad light as usual.Tell you what answer me this what sought of animals blow up innocent children and joe public and call it a war against britian,scum the lot of them!!!!

I watched a documentry iv got irish decent and all they did was stand up for themselves,tell you what watch a few more documentry's as all they are is propaganda to potray the british solidiers in a bad light as usual.Tell you what answer me this what sought of animals blow up innocent children and joe public and call it a war against britian,scum the lot of them!!!!

and hiding amongst civilians is plain cowardness.

Watched a documentry about them, the other day, yes I know I'm young and I've got Irish family but I'd always regarded them as terrorists untill I seen this! What they done was stand up for themselves as the British Army waltzed in and shot dead innnocent people! They believed their land should be free and they stood up for it! If only Wales had the same drive, not that I'm saying its right to use that much force! Open to debate and please(1948) dont resort to petty comments and abuse!

Have a read of the "British Army in Ulster" books for a more unbiased view of the IRA!

You may also want to speak to a few British Army soldiers like myself, who worked out there during the height of the troubles, or to a few Republican children and ask them what it was like to get a beating from their fathers, for merely saying hello to a British soldier, who was just doing his job, by trying to keep the respective warring factions safe and being friendly!

There are many different versions of what occurred on Bloody Sunday, but I worked with at least 3 of the Paras involved on that day and they were all decent blokes!

The Republicans may well have had just cause to protest matters at the beginning of the last century, but the way in which they protested, in committing the amount of brutal and inhumane attrocities they carried out, cannot be justified!

Remember, the British Army were sent into Ulster in 1969, to keep the peace and to protect the Republicans, who subsequently turned on the British Army!

Watched a documentry about them, the other day, yes I know I'm young and I've got Irish family but I'd always regarded them as terrorists untill I seen this! What they done was stand up for themselves as the British Army waltzed in and shot dead innnocent people! They believed their land should be free and they stood up for it! If only Wales had the same drive, not that I'm saying its right to use that much force! Open to debate and please(1948) dont resort to petty comments and abuse!

The ira are/were f*cking cowardly cunts and i wish bad things on them and their supporters

f**k me.

Yeah, they stood up for themselvs by blowing up innocent people and children.

Have a word with yourself.

f**k me.

Yeah, they stood up for themselvs by blowing up innocent people and children.

Have a word with yourself.

about right mate.the old i.r.a who fought the british down the south i can understand.once partition was signed then it should have been the end of the it.p.i.r.a were that brave that when the u.f.f etc started a fight back late 80,s they couldn,t wait to sit down and talk to the british about a ceasefire.around belfast they were getting a caning. jerry and the peacemakers didn,t fancy it one bit

There was an FWA in the 60's actually, and no I'm not the days of violence have gone, doesnt solve anything. I said, "the drive" Obviously through voting PLAID! And realising we CAN do it

didn,t your w.r.a buy a load of dodgy guns off the i.r.a and get caught red handed?1950/60,s?

Get real.
IRA were (and still are) a bunch of cowardly murderers. mainly gangsters extorting money. drugs and other crimes.
Hiding behind pathetic politically minded people who were fronting them (Sinn Fein).

"Army" -- what a joke! Armies wear uniforms and fight, not hide behind women and children, then cry when someone gets hurt.
Why did they always cover their faces? because they are cowards.

Aided by the catholic church in Ireland as well (you know the ones? those who supported and protected kiddy fiddlers/paedos).

Some pathetis biases propaganda TV program says they were brave freedom fighters and you believe it (rewriting history springs to mind).

Did they show the murder of 2 children in Warrington by the brave freedom fighters of Ireland? What did those kids have to do with Ireland or its problems? Blowing up shops and pubs in England, or the attack on the baby of a Welsh soldier at a Channel port. F***ing heroes aren't they?

On a political point. How many in Ulster wanted (or currently want ) to be part of Ireland? Approx. 1/3 if that, on the last poll said they did. So whose freedom are they fighting for? Anyone wanting to leave Ulster for paddy land is free to do so. But they will not because of the free handouts they are getting from the hated British, (hypocrites as well it seems).

I think people have really taken this out of context, as I stated earlier, I was refering to the ORIGINAL IRA

Just to reiterate that is the army who fought a horrible regiment o the British Army in the South after they waltzed in and opened fire! The PIRA are terrorists I agree!

how about supporting the Nazis, would you want the Welsh people to do that too..?

Adam, you'd support Thatcher smashing up our communities and you'd support Churchill sending in troops and shooting the Tonypandy rioters, its people like you that has fucked up communities and our country Wales.

Watched a documentry about them, the other day, yes I know I'm young and I've got Irish family but I'd always regarded them as terrorists untill I seen this! What they done was stand up for themselves as the British Army waltzed in and shot dead innnocent people! They believed their land should be free and they stood up for it! If only Wales had the same drive, not that I'm saying its right to use that much force! Open to debate and please(1948) dont resort to petty comments and abuse!

I agree 100% with this but you'll get the ignorant blasting away shite because the word IRA was used,

how about supporting the Nazis, would you want the Welsh people to do that too..?

Irony alert.

No Surrender!

Unionists unite.

No place here for the IRA!

Ignorant

Get real.
IRA were (and still are) a bunch of cowardly murderers. mainly gangsters extorting money. drugs and other crimes.
Hiding behind pathetic politically minded people who were fronting them (Sinn Fein).

"Army" -- what a joke! Armies wear uniforms and fight, not hide behind women and children, then cry when someone gets hurt.
Why did they always cover their faces? because they are cowards.

Aided by the catholic church in Ireland as well (you know the ones? those who supported and protected kiddy fiddlers/paedos).

Some pathetis biases propaganda TV program says they were brave freedom fighters and you believe it (rewriting history springs to mind).

Did they show the murder of 2 children in Warrington by the brave freedom fighters of Ireland? What did those kids have to do with Ireland or its problems? Blowing up shops and pubs in England, or the attack on the baby of a Welsh soldier at a Channel port. F***ing heroes aren't they?

On a political point. How many in Ulster wanted (or currently want ) to be part of Ireland? Approx. 1/3 if that, on the last poll said they did. So whose freedom are they fighting for? Anyone wanting to leave Ulster for paddy land is free to do so. But they will not because of the free handouts they are getting from the hated British, (hypocrites as well it seems).

November 21, 1920 Croke Park was the scene of a massacre by the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC). The Police, supported by the British Auxiliary Division entered the ground, shooting indiscriminately into the crowd killing or fatally wounding 14 during a Dublin-Tipperary Gaelic football match. The dead included 13 spectators and Tipperary's captain, Michael Hogan. Posthumously, the Hogan stand built in 1924 was named in his honour. These shootings, on the day which became known as Bloody Sunday

No Surrender!

Unionists unite.

No place here for the IRA!

Ignorant

How is that an ignorant statement? There is no place for the IRA.

The problem with it all was the british army had a lot of rules and regulations to follow, a lot of restraints. Our soldiers were basically used as glorified policemen and had to follow a tight set of rules set out by politicians, where as the i.r.a didn't follow any rules and could kill indiscriminately. When the SAS first went into NI... they're
remit was to capture known active IRA
operatives, interrogate them and then
deal with various situations arising ie act
as they saw fit...it was a very successful policy with Gerry Adams et all
squeeling like little girl, the SAS were playing by the same rules as the terrorists and the i.r.a couldn't handle it
Because of the political fallout based on
the initial successes of the go do what
you gotta do philosophy by british special forces....the rules of
engagement were then changed.
Had there been a sustained shoot to kill
policy... it would have been a short
engagement.. US political pressure mainly
through the Kennedy's meant that the
issues escalated and the IRA was able to
continue it's atrocities.. relatively
unhindered.

how about supporting the Nazis, would you want the Welsh people to do that too..?

how can you compare the ira to the nazi's. the british have more in common with the nazi's than the ira. as the british were invading a country that wasnt theirs.

how about supporting the Nazis, would you want the Welsh people to do that too..?

how can you compare the ira to the nazi's. the british have more in common with the nazi's than the ira. as the british were invading a country that wasnt theirs.

No Surrender!

Unionists unite.

No place here for the IRA!

Ignorant

How is that an ignorant statement? There is no place for the IRA.

Its a ignorant reply to which he/it wanted a reaction to the "no surrender" remark, your right in what your saying that there is no need for the Provies in todays society hence Sinn Feins political root and power sharing with Unionist. It works to a decree and long may it last as todays generation of children live in peace.

how about supporting the Nazis, would you want the Welsh people to do that too..?

how can you compare the ira to the nazi's. the british have more in common with the nazi's than the ira. as the british were invading a country that wasnt theirs.

The British even kill their own Adam, deserters dont get a second chance.

Good to know we have terrorist sympathisers on here.

No Surrender!

Unionists unite.

No place here for the IRA!

Ignorant

How is that an ignorant statement? There is no place for the IRA.

Its a ignorant reply to which he/it wanted a reaction to the "no surrender" remark, your right in what your saying that there is no need for the Provies in todays society hence Sinn Feins political root and power sharing with Unionist. It works to a decree and long may it last as todays generation of children live in peace.

There's still a lot of drama in northern ireland. Still a lot of sectarian killings etc going on. Its still far from peaceful. Although its better than what it was I guess

Good to know we have terrorist sympathisers on here.

Yeah, we have plenty of Pro UDA, UVF, LVF, etc. Shame on them

No Surrender!

Unionists unite.

No place here for the IRA!

Ignorant

How is that an ignorant statement? There is no place for the IRA.

Its a ignorant reply to which he/it wanted a reaction to the "no surrender" remark, your right in what your saying that there is no need for the Provies in todays society hence Sinn Feins political root and power sharing with Unionist. It works to a decree and long may it last as todays generation of children live in peace.

There's still a lot of drama in northern ireland. Still a lot of sectarian killings etc going on. Its still far from peaceful. Although its better than what it was I guess

Granted but Id argue its more criminal than sectarian.

for those interested in the Northern Irish conflict, there is a good documentary by award-winning journalist Peter Taylor. It was televised on UKTV History and someone uploaded it on youtube.

The 3 major parties in the conflict are portrayed, it is done from a neutral perspective, Taylor didnt take sides in it. Key figures of the conflict are interviewed, incl. ex IRA/UDA/UVF etc paramilitaries as well as politicians or ex Army etc.

Before you make a judgement, watch all 3 Series (which will take some time), it is prob the best research, filmed and documented about the conflict, certainly the best I have found.

PROVOS (Sinn Fein & the IRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVmbkTDuHU
reflects on the history of the IRA, the split within the movement, how they became the largest paramilitary oranisation, prominent ex-members are featured and interviewed.

LOYALISTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yDXbc9G1wk
shows how the loyalist movement started, what their motives were etc. Prominent ex-members get to speak as well, a well documented piece of history about the loyalist side

THE BRITS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpRGEZYKnd4
the 3rd party, came as peacekeepers and became targets for the nationalists. Here you see why...
Also very good, ex-Army and Policemen as well as politicians get their say


As I said, if you are really interested in history, this is for you. Take your time and watch it in full length, it's worth it.