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Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:38 pm

The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here

Bore off

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:39 pm

rhys1927ccfc wrote:
The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here

Bore off

welsh nazi :D

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:40 pm

rhys1927ccfc wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.

As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity

I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?


Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:41 pm

MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here

Bore off

welsh nazi :D

You've said that already bore off, deluded

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:42 pm

Yma O Hyd

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:46 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.

As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity

I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?


Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are

In my opinion if you are welsh and you don't know your own anthem then you aren't a proper Welshman/woman

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:48 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.

As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity

I see myself more as a Celt than Welsh, but I can speak the language and know all the words to the anthem (and understand what they all mean).

I'm not particularly nationalistic though, but am a dyed in the wool Republican, and would be in whatever country I happened to be born.

I just found it hilarious when Maesteg Blue said Queen Liz was "British to the core" in another thread, then refused to answer all the posts that outlined that was a ridiculous thing to say.


Appreciate your view but I'm still not sure what British is anyway. History is full of other nations ruling so in effect we like most countries are a hybrid of many blood lines

The more you read history, I would agree the more any kind of nationalism seems ridiculous, as we're all made up of all different ethnic backgrounds in all probablility, (although my personal history does seem to be Welsh in all 4 lines of my Grandparents all the way back to the early 19th Century - but that doesn't stop there being Saxon/Norman/Scandinavian blood somewhere in my history if you were to go back far enough).

I just hate all this union flag waving and to claim she's "British to the core" is just crazy.

I have friends who are Royalist apologists, but they wouldn't be as daft as to argue that.

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:49 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:im proud to fly the union flag
god save the queen

In another post, you said she was British to the core :lol:

Clearly, you don't know much about history :lol:


she was born in britain so was her dad and ma
my grampy was from portugal so in your eyes im not british...bollocks

ooooh, a bit touchy aren't you :lol:

I think you're British, but you added "to the core" - what did that mean?


shes a british girl what more do you want more to say

so, on that logic, adding "to the core" didn't mea wn anything? :lol:


you sound fascist mate adolf wanted an pure race you welsh nazi's are starting to worry me

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:50 pm

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!! :ayatollah:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:50 pm

rhys1927ccfc wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.

As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity

I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?


Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are

In my opinion if you are welsh and you don't know your own anthem then you aren't a proper Welshman/woman


Won't disagree but that doesn't leave many proper welsh I'm afraid. The education system didn't help as in my day we weren't even taught the anthem, even those that did o level

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:51 pm

MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:im proud to fly the union flag
god save the queen

Disgrace

Welsh not british


no mate welsh/british


Same here mate.. This welsh not british bollocks pisses me off.. WELSH AND BRITISH :ayatollah:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:53 pm

Proud to be Cardiff and Welsh......nothing else

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:53 pm

rhys1927ccfc wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here

Bore off

welsh nazi :D

You've said that already bore off, deluded


why cant you just ignore the whats going on this weekend and enjoy your extra day off and let who want to enjoy it get on with it

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:55 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.

As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity

I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?


Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are

In my opinion if you are welsh and you don't know your own anthem then you aren't a proper Welshman/woman


Won't disagree but that doesn't leave many proper welsh I'm afraid. The education system didn't help as in my day we weren't even taught the anthem, even those that did o level


we were taught the anthem in school 70/80's

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 pm

Maesteg Blue wrote :
you sound fascist mate adolf wanted an pure race you welsh nazi's are starting to worry me[/quote]

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ha ha :lol: I'm not the one who started saying complimentary things about someone because they were "British to the core"

I'm quite happy with anyone, whatever their nationalty, and certainly wouldn't want to praise anyone for being "Welsh to the core", or any other nationalty "to the core". It simply doesn't matter to me, unlike yourself obviously, as you must have meant something when you posted that, although I note you still won't explain what you meant by "to the core". :lol:
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Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 pm

Angry Man wrote:GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!! :ayatollah:

f**k off adam

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:58 pm

jinks-rct wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
rhys1927ccfc wrote:
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:im proud to fly the union flag
god save the queen

Disgrace

Welsh not british


no mate welsh/british


Same here mate.. This welsh not british bollocks pisses me off.. WELSH AND BRITISH :ayatollah:

Welsh not british

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:58 pm

Republican to the core.
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Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:00 pm

OhhhGa wrote:Republican to the core.

here here :ayatollah:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:00 pm

Small minded nationalists.

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:01 pm

polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.

Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:02 pm

polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.

Small minded? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:03 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.

Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me


Agreed, nationalism and republicanism are entirely seperate causes.

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:05 pm

It's quite simple really Wales was conquered by the English 800 year ago, it's a wonder we still have an identity at all!
All you jack waving brits, would you would you eat at Hitler's table and wave his flag if he'd won the war and conquered us?
You just don't get it do you you've been totally brainwashed by English propaganda!
Yma o hyd...fe godwn eto

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:08 pm

polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.


Feck off bubbles :lol:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:08 pm

Die Walkure wrote:Maesteg Blue wrote :
you sound fascist mate adolf wanted an pure race you welsh nazi's are starting to worry me


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ha ha :lol: I'm not the one who started saying complimentary things about someone because they were "British to the core"

I'm quite happy with anyone, whatever their nationalty, and certainly wouldn't want to praise anyone for being "Welsh to the core", or any other nationalty "to the core". It simply doesn't matter to me, unlike yourself obviously, as you must have meant something when you posted that, although I note you still won't explain what you meant by "to the core". :lol:[/quote]

die mate maybe 2to the core ratted your cage BUT to me if your born a country and parents were born in same country your that country to the core don't forget she is the figure head of said country thats agood shout for being british to the core
the welsh nazis/anti english are far worse than the union flag lot ...narrow minded bigots

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:09 pm

BlueGog wrote:It's quite simple really Wales was conquered by the English 800 year ago, it's a wonder we still have an identity at all!
All you jack waving brits, would you would you eat at Hitler's table and wave his flag if he'd won the war and conquered us?
You just don't get it do you you've been totally brainwashed by English propaganda!
Yma o hyd...fe godwn eto

Here here :old: :old:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:10 pm

CF14-SE14 wrote:
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.


Feck off bubbles :lol:

You live in England ffs :lol:

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:10 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.

Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me


Agreed, nationalism and republicanism are entirely seperate causes.


no mate its a very grey area fella boarding on bigotry

Re: People with Union Jack flags out in Wales…..

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:12 pm

MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.

Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me


Agreed, nationalism and republicanism are entirely seperate causes.


no mate its a very grey area fella boarding on bigotry


They are entirely different things. I do not want a monarchy, yet I do not want Welsh independence and am by no means a nationalist.