Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:38 pm
The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:39 pm
rhys1927ccfc wrote:The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here
Bore off
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:40 pm
rhys1927ccfc wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.
As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity
I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:41 pm
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here
Bore off
welsh nazi
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:42 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:46 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.
As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity
I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?
Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:48 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:Die Walkure wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.
As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity
I see myself more as a Celt than Welsh, but I can speak the language and know all the words to the anthem (and understand what they all mean).
I'm not particularly nationalistic though, but am a dyed in the wool Republican, and would be in whatever country I happened to be born.
I just found it hilarious when Maesteg Blue said Queen Liz was "British to the core" in another thread, then refused to answer all the posts that outlined that was a ridiculous thing to say.
Appreciate your view but I'm still not sure what British is anyway. History is full of other nations ruling so in effect we like most countries are a hybrid of many blood lines
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:49 pm
Die Walkure wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:Die Walkure wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:Die Walkure wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:im proud to fly the union flag
god save the queen
In another post, you said she was British to the core![]()
Clearly, you don't know much about history
she was born in britain so was her dad and ma
my grampy was from portugal so in your eyes im not british...bollocks
ooooh, a bit touchy aren't you![]()
I think you're British, but you added "to the core" - what did that mean?
shes a british girl what more do you want more to say
so, on that logic, adding "to the core" didn't mea wn anything?
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:50 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:50 pm
rhys1927ccfc wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.
As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity
I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?
Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are
In my opinion if you are welsh and you don't know your own anthem then you aren't a proper Welshman/woman
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:51 pm
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:im proud to fly the union flag
god save the queen
Disgrace
Welsh not british
no mate welsh/british
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:53 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:53 pm
rhys1927ccfc wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:The Lad wrote:Oh look more banal nationalism on here
Bore off
welsh nazi
You've said that already bore off, deluded
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:55 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:People get too hung up over this family line thing. It's the way it worked back in the day. Kings conquered other kings. Half of us probably have lines back to William the conqueror. We are a mixed bag of heritage so get over it.
As for this welsh not British thing, how many of you can actually speak welsh? Know the anthem in welsh? Know what it means? So many passionate welsh out that can't be arsed to learn the language, a countries strongest identity
I know every word of the anthem and can speak welsh. Happy?
Never said I wasn't happy. Pleased you can but I would put my mortgage on you being in the minority. Nothing worse than the tv cameras focussing on people in the stadium miming to the welsh anthem clearly not having a clue what they are supposed to be singing. For all they know the words could be "I love England and welsh are their slaves". Yet they will swear what passionate welsh they are
In my opinion if you are welsh and you don't know your own anthem then you aren't a proper Welshman/woman
Won't disagree but that doesn't leave many proper welsh I'm afraid. The education system didn't help as in my day we weren't even taught the anthem, even those that did o level
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 pm
Angry Man wrote:GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:58 pm
jinks-rct wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:rhys1927ccfc wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:im proud to fly the union flag
god save the queen
Disgrace
Welsh not british
no mate welsh/british
Same here mate.. This welsh not british bollocks pisses me off.. WELSH AND BRITISH
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:58 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:00 pm
OhhhGa wrote:Republican to the core.
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:00 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:01 pm
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:02 pm
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:03 pm
Die Walkure wrote:polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:05 pm
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:08 pm
polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:08 pm
Die Walkure wrote:Maesteg Blue wrote :
you sound fascist mate adolf wanted an pure race you welsh nazi's are starting to worry me
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:09 pm
BlueGog wrote:It's quite simple really Wales was conquered by the English 800 year ago, it's a wonder we still have an identity at all!
All you jack waving brits, would you would you eat at Hitler's table and wave his flag if he'd won the war and conquered us?
You just don't get it do you you've been totally brainwashed by English propaganda!
Yma o hyd...fe godwn eto
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:10 pm
CF14-SE14 wrote:polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Feck off bubbles
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:10 pm
OhhhGa wrote:Die Walkure wrote:polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me
Agreed, nationalism and republicanism are entirely seperate causes.
Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:12 pm
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:OhhhGa wrote:Die Walkure wrote:polo wrote:Small minded nationalists.
Hi Polo - nothing to do with nationalism - all to do with Republicanism for me
Agreed, nationalism and republicanism are entirely seperate causes.
no mate its a very grey area fella boarding on bigotry