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Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:16 pm

Williams ahead of Agger and Skrtel? :lol:
I could see Allen being a Liverpool player next season, he's better than Spearing and Shelvey and they played a fair bit last season. Reina is better than Vorm hands down, otherwise Vorm would be at a bigger club by now if he was that good. All Brendan needs to do at liverpool is show them where the goal is. A lot of times they failed to score in games they dominated.

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:13 pm

NJ73 wrote:
BlueWhite&Yellow wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
BlueWhite&Yellow wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:So tired today so feeling calm. Nice move in terms of not allowing LFC to bid for any swans players for 12 months but in all honesty who would have been on their radar in your oppinion? Bear in mind they have to be better than what LFC currently have


Williams, Allen and Dyer. Possibly Vorm as well if he felt that Reina is not good enough with his feet. The players he's got there now are going to struggle with his passing out from the back game imo and bringing in the players mentioned would have bought him some time.

If he tries to play the same style with the current crop of Liverpool players as he did with us, he'll be lucky to last until the new year.


Williams?? Really?? I'd rather Spencer Prior in his ripe old age!!


You obviously don't watch him week in, week out.


Ermmmmmm No. Believe it or not, I'm a Cardiff fan posting on a Cardiff forum.

Iv seen enough of Williams to know that he can't cut it to Liverpools level. Who the hell would he even replace??


He his ahead of any of the Liverpool centre backs, especially given the style of play Rodgers would want to play.

Good luck getting the likes of Skrtel, Agger or Carragher playing that system.

He has been the rock our defence has been built on for the last few seasons.

Skrtel and Carragher definitely can't play the system he would want to employ, but Agger definitely can. What makes me laugh is when people who point out mediocre Liverpool players and then name someone like Agger :lol: Classy centre-half who Liverpool have been lucky to keep.

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:26 pm

Maybe I was a bit harsh on Agger :mrgreen:

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:29 pm

NJ73 wrote:Maybe I was a bit harsh on Agger :mrgreen:


Let's be honest none of your lot will ever play for LFC. Simply not good enough

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:36 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Maybe I was a bit harsh on Agger :mrgreen:


Let's be honest none of your lot will ever play for LFC. Simply not good enough


Well our lot played them off the park twice last season so I would respectfully disagree on the point of them not being good enough. Allen is head and shoulders above the likes of Henderson, Shelvey and Spearing for instance and Dyer is a mile ahead of Downing.

I hope however, that none of them go on to play for Liverpool.

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:03 pm

NJ73 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Maybe I was a bit harsh on Agger :mrgreen:


Let's be honest none of your lot will ever play for LFC. Simply not good enough


Well our lot played them off the park twice last season so I would respectfully disagree on the point of them not being good enough. Allen is head and shoulders above the likes of Henderson, Shelvey and Spearing for instance and Dyer is a mile ahead of Downing.

I hope however, that none of them go on to play for Liverpool.


Yet downing plays for England and dyer does not so clearly people in the know disagree. As do I. I don't think LFC will ever be as poor or inconsistent as last season and teams like your lot benefitted. Play off the park and 1.0 tells a story mind but I can't be arsed to go there. Time will tell.

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:06 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Maybe I was a bit harsh on Agger :mrgreen:


Let's be honest none of your lot will ever play for LFC. Simply not good enough


Well our lot played them off the park twice last season so I would respectfully disagree on the point of them not being good enough. Allen is head and shoulders above the likes of Henderson, Shelvey and Spearing for instance and Dyer is a mile ahead of Downing.

I hope however, that none of them go on to play for Liverpool.


Yet downing plays for England and dyer does not so clearly people in the know disagree. As do I. I don't think LFC will ever be as poor or inconsistent as last season and teams like your lot benefitted. Play off the park and 1.0 tells a story mind but I can't be arsed to go there. Time will tell.


Downing this season 0 assists 0 goals. Should never have been anywhere near the England side and most pundits agree.

He, and Henderson, are in there purely because of who they play for, not on performances.

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:32 pm

NJ73 wrote:
BlueWhite&Yellow wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
BlueWhite&Yellow wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:So tired today so feeling calm. Nice move in terms of not allowing LFC to bid for any swans players for 12 months but in all honesty who would have been on their radar in your oppinion? Bear in mind they have to be better than what LFC currently have


Williams, Allen and Dyer. Possibly Vorm as well if he felt that Reina is not good enough with his feet. The players he's got there now are going to struggle with his passing out from the back game imo and bringing in the players mentioned would have bought him some time.

If he tries to play the same style with the current crop of Liverpool players as he did with us, he'll be lucky to last until the new year.


Williams?? Really?? I'd rather Spencer Prior in his ripe old age!!


You obviously don't watch him week in, week out.


Ermmmmmm No. Believe it or not, I'm a Cardiff fan posting on a Cardiff forum.

Iv seen enough of Williams to know that he can't cut it to Liverpools level. Who the hell would he even replace??


He his ahead of any of the Liverpool centre backs, especially given the style of play Rodgers would want to play.

Good luck getting the likes of Skrtel, Agger or Carragher playing that system.

He has been the rock our defence has been built on for the last few seasons.

You saying that those 3 can't pass to the left, right or backwards 10 yards? :lol:

Re: Deluded FC

Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:33 pm

NJ73 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Maybe I was a bit harsh on Agger :mrgreen:


Let's be honest none of your lot will ever play for LFC. Simply not good enough


Well our lot played them off the park twice last season so I would respectfully disagree on the point of them not being good enough. Allen is head and shoulders above the likes of Henderson, Shelvey and Spearing for instance and Dyer is a mile ahead of Downing.

I hope however, that none of them go on to play for Liverpool.


Yet downing plays for England and dyer does not so clearly people in the know disagree. As do I. I don't think LFC will ever be as poor or inconsistent as last season and teams like your lot benefitted. Play off the park and 1.0 tells a story mind but I can't be arsed to go there. Time will tell.


Downing this season 0 assists 0 goals. Should never have been anywhere near the England side and most pundits agree.

He, and Henderson, are in there purely because of who they play for, not on performances.


Must admit the downing stats are abysmal but has not been too bad for England. Kind of a vicious circle though as you have to ask why they play for the top clubs in the first place.

Re: Deluded FC

Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:42 am

Aramore wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Aramore wrote:Rodgers is basically god.

Haven't you heard? It's all over the Liverpool forums. Apparently he has a prove track record and plays attractive, attacking(?!) football!


Well he has really. Took the Jacks out of the hardest league to escape from (as we well know) and on a relatively small budget. Then in his first season didn't do a Derby or a Blackpool did a Stoke and this with playing attractive, attacking football.

I hope he screws up at Liverpool but he is beyond criticism really.


What's the attacking part about?

There is nothing in Swansea's play style that is attacking.

It's all possession based patiently waiting for the other side to pull themselves out of position so that they can move into the space left and pass into defence. I personally hate that style of football but I get where the attractive comments come from as it does look very goo when it comes off but to call it attacking football is pushing it a bit.

Also proven track record?

Took a mid table Watford side to mid table. Took a promotion candidate Reading side to the relegation zone. Took a play off challenging Swansea side to the Playoffs.


I've always felt that the best thing about Rodgers is his contacts in the world of football developed while he was a coach. If he hadn't signed Scott Sinclair they wouldn't have got promoted and only he, from his time spent as youth coach at Chelsea, would have known about Sinclair to sign him. Other than that I feel he's very average. Would be the sort of manager to establish a Premier league side in the prem or to take a championship side into the prem. Not much more than that.


We wax lyrical about Malky and he didn't do for us what Rodgers did for Swansea. Does that make MM below average?
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Re: Deluded FC

Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:43 am

Williams, Allen and Dyer. Possibly Vorm as well if he felt that Reina is not good enough with his feet. The players he's got there now are going to struggle with his passing out from the back game imo and bringing in the players mentioned would have bought him some time.

If he tries to play the same style with the current crop of Liverpool players as he did with us, he'll be lucky to last until the new year.[/quote]

Williams?? Really?? I'd rather Spencer Prior in his ripe old age!![/quote]

You obviously don't watch him week in, week out.[/quote]

Ermmmmmm No. Believe it or not, I'm a Cardiff fan posting on a Cardiff forum.

Iv seen enough of Williams to know that he can't cut it to Liverpools level. Who the hell would he even replace??[/quote]

He his ahead of any of the Liverpool centre backs, especially given the style of play Rodgers would want to play.

Good luck getting the likes of Skrtel, Agger or Carragher playing that system.

He has been the rock our defence has been built on for the last few seasons.[/quote]
You saying that those 3 can't pass to the left, right or backwards 10 yards? :lol:[/quote]

If it's so easy why can't we do it. We certainly couldn't against West Ham.

Re: Deluded FC

Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:36 pm

maccydee wrote:
Aramore wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Aramore wrote:Rodgers is basically god.

Haven't you heard? It's all over the Liverpool forums. Apparently he has a prove track record and plays attractive, attacking(?!) football!


Well he has really. Took the Jacks out of the hardest league to escape from (as we well know) and on a relatively small budget. Then in his first season didn't do a Derby or a Blackpool did a Stoke and this with playing attractive, attacking football.

I hope he screws up at Liverpool but he is beyond criticism really.


What's the attacking part about?

There is nothing in Swansea's play style that is attacking.

It's all possession based patiently waiting for the other side to pull themselves out of position so that they can move into the space left and pass into defence. I personally hate that style of football but I get where the attractive comments come from as it does look very goo when it comes off but to call it attacking football is pushing it a bit.

Also proven track record?

Took a mid table Watford side to mid table. Took a promotion candidate Reading side to the relegation zone. Took a play off challenging Swansea side to the Playoffs.


I've always felt that the best thing about Rodgers is his contacts in the world of football developed while he was a coach. If he hadn't signed Scott Sinclair they wouldn't have got promoted and only he, from his time spent as youth coach at Chelsea, would have known about Sinclair to sign him. Other than that I feel he's very average. Would be the sort of manager to establish a Premier league side in the prem or to take a championship side into the prem. Not much more than that.


We wax lyrical about Malky and he didn't do for us what Rodgers did for Swansea. Does that make MM below average?



Rodgers had a settled squad that was on the cusp of breaking into the top six, all it needed was a few additions.

Malky inherited a squad that had ten players and he still managed to get us into the top six. Even if the football wasn't great I'd say it's more of an achievement myself.