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Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 4:20 pm

British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 4:28 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:



Up the Queen and the rest of them ,you should be a jack

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 4:34 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:



Up the Queen and the rest of them ,you should be a jack



Love my country Great Britain
And have supported the City home and away since 1968 :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 5:08 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:



Up the Queen and the rest of them ,you should be a jack



Love my country Great Britain
And have supported the City home and away since 1968 :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:



Maybe your country is gb But Im Welsh first and last, and you think thats good that you followed City from 1968 haha , your a baby I have followed them from back in the late 50s early 60s But so what ! go fly your jack flag

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 5:09 pm

1968 you say? Iv'e been around since 1948! Good to see some older hardcore fans rearing their heads amongst the plastic army :old:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 5:43 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:1968 you say? Iv'e been around since 1948! Good to see some older hardcore fans rearing their heads amongst the plastic army :old:



I was born the year after you in 1949, The year Wolves won the FA Cup :lol:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 5:50 pm

I was born in 1942 but due to the war football wasn't around, it was only in 1948 that I ever ventured down NP :old:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 8:47 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:


but you miss the point………..Wales is not part of the Union flag and so it should not be flown in Wales. Whether you like the English-German queen or not is irrelevant.

Union Jack in Wales??………DIM DIOLCH :evil:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:16 pm

Blazing Saddles wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:


but you miss the point………..Wales is not part of the Union flag and so it should not be flown in Wales. Whether you like the English-German queen or not is irrelevant.

Union Jack in Wales??………DIM DIOLCH :evil:


I think your an idiot.

You act as if Britain has suppressed Wales, try living in Serbia as Muslim during the 90s, some people don't know there f*cking born :old:

It's a flag ffs :old:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:21 pm

Its good to have a debate and sad you have to resort to bad language. It is a fact that a flag that is supposed to represent the whole of the UK doesn't. What is wrong with debating that?? It wouldn't happen anywhere else in the world and that is why it should not be used in Wales in my opinion.
The Union flag does not represent Wales or Welsh people………..that must change and it will change in time.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:29 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Blazing Saddles wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:


but you miss the point………..Wales is not part of the Union flag and so it should not be flown in Wales. Whether you like the English-German queen or not is irrelevant.

Union Jack in Wales??………DIM DIOLCH :evil:


I think your an idiot.

You act as if Britain has suppressed Wales, try living in Serbia as Muslim during the 90s, some people don't know there f*cking born :old:

It's a flag ffs :old:


They try there best to kill our language, and made children to wear a board around there neck if they spoke Welsh in there own country which is Wales. Is that not suppressing people or cos they speak there own language in there own county ? for Fk sake get really your the fking idiot or the brain dead one, or is that kind of thing ok with you ! :twisted: Then you have Churchill who sent troops in against the Welsh people and kill them,just cos they wanted a better standard of living . again that ok with you is it ? that another country sends troops into another country and kills its people . You have to be some real Ass hole . :twisted:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:32 pm

Blazing Saddles wrote:Its good to have a debate and sad you have to resort to bad language. It is a fact that a flag that is supposed to represent the whole of the UK doesn't. What is wrong with debating that?? It wouldn't happen anywhere else in the world and that is why it should not be used in Wales in my opinion.
The Union flag does not represent Wales or Welsh people………..that must change and it will change in time.


It does represent the people of wales, it is the UNION JACK. The flag of Britain, therefore the flag that represents Wales. That flag was flown during the battle of trafalgar, the Spanish Armada, the boer war and both world wars. The Union Jack flies side by side with the Welsh flag in Afghanistan wherever the Welsh guards go (If you fancy a f*cking moan then moan about the plans to get rid of the Welsh guards). All those events had significant Welsh participation.

Stop this nationalist rhetoric and bile and be proud of what this country has done, the Union Jack represent everything thats good about Britain, the Welsh dragon represents the Welsh people, Get a grip and moan about something meaningful you precious little soul.

:old: :old: :old:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:36 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Blazing Saddles wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:British and Welsh.
Proud to be British, i love both the Union flag and the Welsh Dragon
Good save the Queen :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:


but you miss the point………..Wales is not part of the Union flag and so it should not be flown in Wales. Whether you like the English-German queen or not is irrelevant.

Union Jack in Wales??………DIM DIOLCH :evil:


I think your an idiot.

You act as if Britain has suppressed Wales, try living in Serbia as Muslim during the 90s, some people don't know there f*cking born :old:

It's a flag ffs :old:


They try there best to kill our language, and made children to wear a board around there neck if they spoke Welsh in there own country which is Wales. Is that not suppressing people or cos they speak there own language in there own county ? for Fk sake get really your the fking idiot or the brain dead one, or is that kind of thing ok with you ! :twisted: Then you have Churchill who sent troops in against the Welsh people and kill them,just cos they wanted a better standard of living . again that ok with you is it ? that another country sends troops into another country and kills its people . You have to be some real Ass hole . :twisted:


Christ get a f*cking grip.

If the Welsh language meant ANYTHING to the people of Wales then why don't we all siarad Y Iaith? No one gives a shit, always been the same :old:

The Welsh were surpressed, many many many moons ago, time to move on you bitter c**t. "You have to be some real ass hole" if you think Wales would be better without being part of Britain, christ all f*cking might we have some billy big balls on here :old: :old: :old:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:41 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Blazing Saddles wrote:Its good to have a debate and sad you have to resort to bad language. It is a fact that a flag that is supposed to represent the whole of the UK doesn't. What is wrong with debating that?? It wouldn't happen anywhere else in the world and that is why it should not be used in Wales in my opinion.
The Union flag does not represent Wales or Welsh people………..that must change and it will change in time.


It does represent the people of wales, it is the UNION JACK. The flag of Britain, therefore the flag that represents Wales. That flag was flown during the battle of trafalgar, the Spanish Armada, the boer war and both world wars. The Union Jack flies side by side with the Welsh flag in Afghanistan wherever the Welsh guards go (If you fancy a f*cking moan then moan about the plans to get rid of the Welsh guards). All those events had significant Welsh participation.

Stop this nationalist rhetoric and bile and be proud of what this country has done, the Union Jack represent everything thats good about Britain, the Welsh dragon represents the Welsh people, Get a grip and moan about something meaningful you precious little soul.

:old: :old: :old:


ITs the Welsh people that I care about, Im proud to be Welsh, the british goverment turn there back on Wales while Liverpool flooded a Valley in Wales where farmers had been living for years and years , farms past down from father to son, they even dug up graves of the dead. They said at the time is was for drinking water for the people of Liverpool , years later it come out that it was for industry there , and the water they had over they pump back to Wales and charge us for it . DONT FLY THAT BUTCHERS APPRON FLAG TO ME ! AND TELL ME ITS MY FLAG , MY COUNTRY IS NOT ON IT ,AND I DONT WANT MY COUNTRYS FLAG ON IT ! :twisted:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:44 pm

WE also have a grve yard full of children in Aberfan , and the goverment of the day didnt even bring anyone to task over it . and the so called queen didnt even come there for over a week after. :twisted:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 9:49 pm

It's getting a bit deep now…………I won't ever accept the Union flag as my own as Wales is not part of the flag and that is a fact.

Nos da pawb a siarad yfory……..wedi blino iawn nawr…….amser cysgu!! :crazy:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 10:06 pm

There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class :old: :old:

Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.

I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.

I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression. :old:

Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me. :old: :old:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Mon May 21, 2012 11:08 pm

great post above-1948, and saved me writing anything, i am proud to be welsh and realise i was lucky to be born in a great country why pick the negatives when we have so much to be proud of. we have life much better than the english anyway who finance us to live behond our means

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 12:22 am

colours wrote:Got mine hanging proudly in my garden
BRITISH + PROUD

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Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 7:48 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
Blazing Saddles wrote:It wouldn't happen anywhere else in the world and it is very very shameful to see downtrodden welsh people flying someone elses flag in their country. Any foreign bunting around where I live and I may have to pull it down! :evil: I have no affiliation for the union jack at all as it represents nothing whatsoever about Wales and it's people.

Union Jack's in Wales?………..DIM DIOLCH.




Well said Saddles, its good to see Im not the only Welshman with so much love for his country Good on you !
COFIWCH DRYWERYN FE GODWN NI ETO


Well said both of you! The English crown has been forced upon us since the conquest of 1282 it's remarkable that we're still here to debate the matter!

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 8:00 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There was no need to bring up Aberfan into this, your just point scoring and using a tragedy like that to your advantage. The Queen can't be expected to travel everywhere there has been a disaster. What a way to show your class :old: :old:

Very interesting you bring up the flooding of WELSH SPEAKING villagers to give water to Liverpool rather than the ENGLISH SPEAKING villages of the Elan valley that was flooded to give Birmingham water. That's the problem with you nationalists, only looking after those who speak the language.

I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.

I digress but please stop spouting your foul views on here, the Union Jack is good enough for most and like I said you could face REAL supression. :old:

Your exactly the type of person the real people of Wales f*cking despise. You sound like a scouser, Poor me poor me poor me. :old: :old:


Actually the Elan Valley was a Welsh language community, just like Tryweryn, just like the farmers of Epynt who were forced to give their lands to the crown. Aberfan, Tonypandy, Merthyr, Newport I could go on the list is endless all results of the exploitation of our country. Your quite right in a way that many people 'don't give a shit about the language' just like many people don't care about the jack flying in Wales. this really just shows how good a job they've done in breeding colonial mindset in our people. Wake up, learn your history, what has been done and is still been done to our country.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 8:08 am

carpet20 wrote:great post above-1948, and saved me writing anything, i am proud to be welsh and realise i was lucky to be born in a great country why pick the negatives when we have so much to be proud of. we have life much better than the english anyway who finance us to live behond our means


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Fact Many part of Wales receive Objective 1 money because were poorer that the rest of Europe (yes Ireland, Poland and Eastern Europe included
Fact:This money should be match funded by the London government as is done in all other countries. England refuses to match fund this money. That why after 15 year we're still one of the poorest countries in Europe.

Wake up and look at the facts. Have you been to the South of england or the home counties recently and compared the standard of living? Wales has been short changed.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 8:52 am

Worst Flag thread EVER!

Welsh Flag Is Fantastic, looks "sexy as" on the misses too!

Union Jack Represents Unity, I respect that notion, so should everybody else!


"Haters be hating"

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 8:54 am

If we are all so welsh and proud these days maybe city should leave the english football pyramid? Or are we still proud British people?

We are British first, welsh second. Wales has been a principality since around 13th century and the first union jack was around he early 1600s. We would sink without trace to an even poorer country if we went it alone!

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 9:57 am

Chip shop Alley wrote:Worst Flag thread EVER!

Welsh Flag Is Fantastic, looks "sexy as" on the misses too!

Union Jack Represents Unity, I respect that notion, so should everybody else!


"Haters be hating"



The world according to YOU IS IT ! cos you do we all must ? , something wrong with you , the jack represents unity ? how can that be when ( Thank god ) the Welsh flag is not on there ? thats what you call unity is it ? They say its the flag of the UK but Wales is not on it , it takes someone with only 2 brain cells to know thats not unity. But thank god Wales is not on that Butchers appron.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 12:11 pm

I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.


I'm fluent in Welsh because I learnt it in school, yet I have no Welsh speaking family members and I live on the border. How can you suggest that "forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off"? What nonsese, education only encouraged me to learn the language of my country. Without it, I wouldn't have done so.

Don't discuss what you don't understand.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 12:27 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
I am also a Welsh speaker, I didn't learn a word until the 90s but the local put on Welsh classes on tuesday nights, was a right f*cking laugh, a few pints with friends. Half were fluent half were learning like me, I learnt in a non pressured enviroment. Forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off.


I'm fluent in Welsh because I learnt it in school, yet I have no Welsh speaking family members and I live on the border. How can you suggest that "forcing the youth of today to learn it will only turn them off"? What nonsese, education only encouraged me to learn the language of my country. Without it, I wouldn't have done so.

Don't discuss what you don't understand.



Thats briliant , My son and daughter goes to Welsh School and there doing great. I never had the chance to learn Welsh in school, as I could only have German or French, so every Tuesday I would stand outside my class room and later had the stick twice cos I refused to learn German or French till they would teach me Welsh.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 12:31 pm

Thats briliant , My son and daughter goes to Welsh School and there doing great. I never had the chance to learn Welsh in school, as I could only have German or French, so every Tuesday I would stand outside my class room and later had the stick twice cos I refused to learn German or French till they would teach me Welsh.

Thanks, Welsh schools are great for promoting the language and I honestly believe there should be far more than there is at present. Exactly, there are definitely people who want to learn the language and there always has been :ayatollah:

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 1:02 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:
Chip shop Alley wrote:Worst Flag thread EVER!

Welsh Flag Is Fantastic, looks "sexy as" on the misses too!

Union Jack Represents Unity, I respect that notion, so should everybody else!


"Haters be hating"



The world according to YOU IS IT ! cos you do we all must ? , something wrong with you , the jack represents unity ? how can that be when ( Thank god ) the Welsh flag is not on there ? thats what you call unity is it ? They say its the flag of the UK but Wales is not on it , it takes someone with only 2 brain cells to know thats not unity. But thank god Wales is not on that Butchers appron.


Get a grip will you, the red in the union jack symbolises Wales and everything great about Wales. You got issues. Get out more you troll.

Re: Union Jack flag update!!!

Tue May 22, 2012 1:06 pm

Chip shop Alley wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
Chip shop Alley wrote:Worst Flag thread EVER!

Welsh Flag Is Fantastic, looks "sexy as" on the misses too!

Union Jack Represents Unity, I respect that notion, so should everybody else!


"Haters be hating"



The world according to YOU IS IT ! cos you do we all must ? , something wrong with you , the jack represents unity ? how can that be when ( Thank god ) the Welsh flag is not on there ? thats what you call unity is it ? They say its the flag of the UK but Wales is not on it , it takes someone with only 2 brain cells to know thats not unity. But thank god Wales is not on that Butchers appron.


Get a grip will you, the red in the union jack symbolises Wales and everything great about Wales. You got issues. Get out more you troll.


GO eat your chips boy, the red on the jack flag is the cross of saint George , the red is nothing to do with Wales. Go read your history , or get some one to read it to you !