FAO those willing to accept a red home kit ?

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First one home other one away,swaying me already

I don't think that will work. They are both basically the same colour shirts, if there was a clash with the home shirt the same clash would occur with the away shirt.

have a third strip all red,just for us to sell in malaysia,china

The future.

Give us a chance to shape our destiny. Seize the day.

First one home other one away,swaying me already

I don't think that will work. They are both basically the same colour shirts, if there was a clash with the home shirt the same clash would occur with the away shirt.

What do you think of the predominantly blue version with the red dragon on it? Could you accept it?

I would obviously love to see us as we are and carry on.
However, times are changing in so many ways.
We seem to have to move with the times or be left behind.
If we need the current board to stay with us just to survive, then that's what we have to have.
He who pays, calls the tune etc.
To me, life is far too short to worry what colour my team play in, if it means survival. There are far more important things in life. I hope to see city play as much as I can in the future.
How many fans have seen us in AWAY colours ranging from black/green/red/white yellow etc anyway? Was the support any less because we were not wearing blue? The answer is no.
So for me, I will follow the club no matter what. (as long as I can afford to)

It is the playing in blue at HOME that is the problem. No-one minds what they do with the away kits.

Lol I understand that, what I'm getting at is in reality we have supported the team in all sorts of colours. Do it matter where they play in what colour? We shall still be CCFC!

The future.

Give us a chance to shape our destiny. Seize the day.

First one home other one away,swaying me already

I don't think that will work. They are both basically the same colour shirts, if there was a clash with the home shirt the same clash would occur with the away shirt.

What do you think of the predominantly blue version with the red dragon on it? Could you accept it?

I'm just never for 'meeting in the middle' it's like no one gets what they want, EVERYONE sort of loses. I was creating my own compromise kits and badges in the beginning and this was when I admitted to myself they do not work for anyone.

As a design it's great and oddly I think I'd rather it with red on top, but don't tell anyone. Whoever done them I would love to see one that was blue on top gradually becoming white at the bottom. I know that's not a compromise but just to see how it looks in our current colours, they could also do one that was red at the top,gradually becoming white or black.

as long as we got our bluebirds badge . i dont care?

I'm pretty strongly against the rebranding. I would take a compromise to some extent, but would still want the home shirt to be predominantly blue, with a bluebird on the badge too. Seems like VT is big on red though so I feel my days as a bluebird may be numbered. Hope that's not the case though.

My view for what it's worth- I would rather our club move forward into the future with investment and secure it for generations to come. What we tend to forget football has changed, new financial models are sought and will come into being to ensure clubs survive in the long term. Stability and progress comes at a cost - if it means a colour change for he sake of my club so be it, providing the identity of my club remains - CCFC.
We as fans pay our entrance fee and expect to be entertained by the team performing and giving it all on the pitch. The other financial mechanics of running a club and keeping it afloat - I haven't got a clue and certainly don't know anyone who can shed out over a million a month - just to keep it afloat - do you and where are they... Like all customers we have a choice, if you don't like it go, simple as.
I am gratefull to the current and indeed previous custodians of our club by injecting money into it and allowing me to be able to have a club to support, regardless of the mistakes they made and I defy anyone who doesn't feel the excileration and excitment when New owners come aboard - in recent times S H after years in the doldrums. He came along and off the club went to pastures new, which many a fan han't seen in years.
Along with success came this new supporter and initially they drove me nuts as they weren't of same stock as a 80's fan - and coaches replaced mini buses - how was that progress?
Then the clubs badge changed - a marketing strategy to use the St David's flag of Wales and replace CCFC with bluebirds - to encourage a wider fan base.. Most saw it as S H laying the gauntlet down by saying in such an action - its my club I'll do as I want.. but without a fight it was accepted.
Funny now since moving to new stadium and new supporters are now viewed by some in a similar way as I did! nuts really as its Cardiff they come to see and I am sure in time they will probably moan about the new class of supporter as well! But at least they will have and hopefully have a team to support called CCFC - only if the Malaysians don't pull the plug on the endless stream of financial commitment.
It saddens me to see such a divide - over the bigger picture of having stability and dare I say it a future, the likes this club has never seen - if on the other hand the club dies in administration, will it be resurrected - in today's hard times I honestly don't think so.
I go back to my military days - regiments change at great upset and reservation - to those who have served and are serving - when change comes the old regiment, cap badge and battle colours are still fondly rembered by those who have served, its wider family and more importantly by the merged and new soldiers who become privileged to be associated with such proud past histories.
Thats the issue for me the club and it's history being remembered for generations to come - in it's generic title of CCFC - regardless of the changes needed to keep its heart beating.
I for one will never turn my back because of change for sake of progress and stability, no matter how unpleasant on the eye it is - warts and all.
For those who enjoy poetry and may understand what I am on about from such a military comparison -

THE LOST COLOURS.

Who said we had lost the Colours?
Who carried the tale away.
And whispered it low in England,
With the deeds of that awful day?
The story was washed, they tell us,
Freed from a touch of shame--
Washed in the blood of those who died.
Told in their sacred name.

But they said we had lost the Colours,
And the Colours were safe, you see;
While the story was told in England,
Over the restless sea.
They had not the heart to blame us.
When they knew what the day had cost;
But we felt the shame of the silence laid
On the Colours they thought were lost.

And now to its farthest limit
They will listen and hear our cry;
How could the Colours be lost, I say,
While one was left to die?
Safe on the heart of a soldier,
Where else could the Colours be!
I do not say they were found again,
For they never were lost, you see.

Safe on the heart of a soldier,
Knotted close to his side,
Proudly lie on the quiet breast,
Washed in the crimson tide!
For the heart is silent forever,
Stirred by no flitting breath,
And the Colours he saved are a fitting shroud,
And meet for a soldier's death.

What more would they know in England?
The Colours were lost, they said;
And all the time they were safe, of course,
Though the soldier himself was dead.
The band was stiff, and the heart was cold
And feeble the stalwart limb;
But he was one of the Twenty-fourth,
So the Colours were safe with him.

i made the point last week that common sense and realism is on the side of changing to red but i just cant see myself clapping a team out that aint in blue. I really think this is my last season wacthing the bluebirds because after this year, to me it wont be cardiff city. It breaks my heart but thatll be it for me

I will support them, red or blue, what people won't support is medeocrity, lack of ambition, and dare I say it the bad days of playing in the lower divisions, been there done it, and wore the shirts, I want a shot at playing in the top division, that has been my dream, take away that dream and I will look at my priorities, I work every other weekend, so can't get to every home game even though I have a season ticket, and before I get called a plastic i have supported Cardiff for 45 yrs, probably the ones who use this term "PLASTIC" I think, haven't supported the club as long

First off, I understand that for the vast majority of you your decision to back the initial rebranding plans were motivated only by a desire to see CCFC survive and indeed thrive.

Yes,there were lots of insults hurled around last week between both those opposed to and those in favour of the changes. I typed plenty of barbed comments myself. It is an emotive topic and inevitably opinions are polarised.

I have a couple of questions aimed at those in favour of the rebranding ideas originally outlined by the club...

Are you willing to accept the rebranding in its entirety as that is simply the direction in which football is going? And the investment could really revolutionise our prospects of becoming a force in Football?

Are you a reluctant red but willing to accept a red home kit to ensure the future survival of professional football in Cardiff but would ideally prefer a compromise blue/red fusion kit with a bluebird still on the badge somewhere?

Purely hypothetical but if you are a reluctant red, would you be prepared to take part in organised supporter events that would lobby for a compromise kit/badge?

The Malaysians told us in their statement that we will be playing in blue next year and we will be the bluebirds. Unless the Malaysians are liars then this will take place for the forthcoming season. It is only after next season that any new proposals are being considered.

I think it is important to many of us to preserve the club's identity.

Being "The Bluebirds" is as important to us as being "The Hammers" is to West Ham, "The Gunners" is to Arsenal. "The Glaziers" is to Crystal Palace etc. etc.

The problem, as I saw it, with the original proposal was that with Red shirts at home AND the Dragon badge, how could we possibly carry on being The Bluebirds?

With the mooted compromise of a red home shirt with a Bluebird crest on the chest, plus a guarantee of a blue away strip, that is enough for me.

I am not as much as a die-hard long term fan as many on here.

I don't have the first-hand history many of you have.

I do hope, however, to have a long term future supporting Cardiff City, The Bluebirds, though and I know for that to happen the club desperately needs the money to get out of the current situation.

My view for what it's worth- I would rather our club move forward into the future with investment and secure it for generations to come. What we tend to forget football has changed, new financial models are sought and will come into being to ensure clubs survive in the long term. Stability and progress comes at a cost - if it means a colour change for he sake of my club so be it, providing the identity of my club remains - CCFC.
We as fans pay our entrance fee and expect to be entertained by the team performing and giving it all on the pitch. The other financial mechanics of running a club and keeping it afloat - I haven't got a clue and certainly don't know anyone who can shed out over a million a month - just to keep it afloat - do you and where are they... Like all customers we have a choice, if you don't like it go, simple as.
I am gratefull to the current and indeed previous custodians of our club by injecting money into it and allowing me to be able to have a club to support, regardless of the mistakes they made and I defy anyone who doesn't feel the excileration and excitment when New owners come aboard - in recent times S H after years in the doldrums. He came along and off the club went to pastures new, which many a fan han't seen in years.
Along with success came this new supporter and initially they drove me nuts as they weren't of same stock as a 80's fan - and coaches replaced mini buses - how was that progress?
Then the clubs badge changed - a marketing strategy to use the St David's flag of Wales and replace CCFC with bluebirds - to encourage a wider fan base.. Most saw it as S H laying the gauntlet down by saying in such an action - its my club I'll do as I want.. but without a fight it was accepted.
Funny now since moving to new stadium and new supporters are now viewed by some in a similar way as I did! nuts really as its Cardiff they come to see and I am sure in time they will probably moan about the new class of supporter as well! But at least they will have and hopefully have a team to support called CCFC - only if the Malaysians don't pull the plug on the endless stream of financial commitment.
It saddens me to see such a divide - over the bigger picture of having stability and dare I say it a future, the likes this club has never seen - if on the other hand the club dies in administration, will it be resurrected - in today's hard times I honestly don't think so.
I go back to my military days - regiments change at great upset and reservation - to those who have served and are serving - when change comes the old regiment, cap badge and battle colours are still fondly rembered by those who have served, its wider family and more importantly by the merged and new soldiers who become privileged to be associated with such proud past histories.
Thats the issue for me the club and it's history being remembered for generations to come - in it's generic title of CCFC - regardless of the changes needed to keep its heart beating.
I for one will never turn my back because of change for sake of progress and stability, no matter how unpleasant on the eye it is - warts and all.
For those who enjoy poetry and may understand what I am on about from such a military comparison -

THE LOST COLOURS.

Who said we had lost the Colours?
Who carried the tale away.
And whispered it low in England,
With the deeds of that awful day?
The story was washed, they tell us,
Freed from a touch of shame--
Washed in the blood of those who died.
Told in their sacred name.

But they said we had lost the Colours,
And the Colours were safe, you see;
While the story was told in England,
Over the restless sea.
They had not the heart to blame us.
When they knew what the day had cost;
But we felt the shame of the silence laid
On the Colours they thought were lost.

And now to its farthest limit
They will listen and hear our cry;
How could the Colours be lost, I say,
While one was left to die?
Safe on the heart of a soldier,
Where else could the Colours be!
I do not say they were found again,
For they never were lost, you see.

Safe on the heart of a soldier,
Knotted close to his side,
Proudly lie on the quiet breast,
Washed in the crimson tide!
For the heart is silent forever,
Stirred by no flitting breath,
And the Colours he saved are a fitting shroud,
And meet for a soldier's death.

What more would they know in England?
The Colours were lost, they said;
And all the time they were safe, of course,
Though the soldier himself was dead.
The band was stiff, and the heart was cold
And feeble the stalwart limb;
But he was one of the Twenty-fourth,
So the Colours were safe with him.

24th/41st

i made the point last week that common sense and realism is on the side of changing to red but i just cant see myself clapping a team out that aint in blue. I really think this is my last season wacthing the bluebirds because after this year, to me it wont be cardiff city. It breaks my heart but thatll be it for me

I will support them, red or blue, what people won't support is medeocrity, lack of ambition, and dare I say it the bad days of playing in the lower divisions, been there done it, and wore the shirts, I want a shot at playing in the top division, that has been my dream, take away that dream and I will look at my priorities, I work every other weekend, so can't get to every home game even though I have a season ticket, and before I get called a plastic i have supported Cardiff for 45 yrs, probably the ones who use this term "PLASTIC" I think, haven't supported the club as long

steve no one could accuse you of being a plastic fella

myself, i was dead against a change of branding of cardiff city but after the dust settled i do agree a compromise should be made if it means the difference between having a club or not
IF and i do mean a big IF there is 100 million available all it means is ccfc will still be in business for the next 5 to 10 years and it will not guarrantee prem football

a question which has bugged me since the news came out is
why, if our nickname and the colour of our shirts offend that part of the world so much would mr tan and his group get involed with ccfc in the first place?
dont get me wrong im glad he did

Both red and blue smacks of a hideous compromise and will please neither side. Not blue enough, not red enough. Going red is totally against tradition. If City were good enough to be invested in with no sign of red or a dragon on the kit, why has it taken Tan so long to get worked up and insist the team plays in red. If it bothered him that much he should have bought Charlton or some other lower league team.

Utter bollux, there's another reason behind it and we'll find out in due course.

Both red and blue smacks of a hideous compromise and will please neither side. Not blue enough, not red enough. Going red is totally against tradition. If City were good enough to be invested in with no sign of red or a dragon on the kit, why has it taken Tan so long to get worked up and insist the team plays in red. If it bothered him that much he should have bought Charlton or some other lower league team.

Utter bollux, there's another reason behind it and we'll find out in due course.

is it a smoke screen only time will tell
i have doubts about the 100 million that has been quoted hope im wrong

The future.

Give us a chance to shape our destiny. Seize the day.

I do really like these 2 kits