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Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:On Sunday, its not all dead in the water at all. VT is not walking away from our Great Club. Carl will update you later.

Just left the meeting where we were all united .

The threats to VT on Facebook groups have been disgusting and have hurt Tan.

Our Bluebird had been agreed to stay on the badge last night.



Tony & big Gwyn seem to be devastated on the news coming out of the meeting, whats done is done now and lets hope their is room for compromise. People seem to think that VT was just going to give us £100million, the fact of the matter would have been the club would have been an extra £100million indebted.... So those who think us anti-red had fucked up then think on, if the likes of Swansea & Blackpool can do it on half the budget we had under Jones last 2 seasons so can we, we have that chemistry and right coaching. We are not that far away from achieving our goal.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:18 pm

Guy on the real sports phone in just said. "Langston debt days away from being signed off. Plans already drawn up for the extra seating. All evidence shown tonight in the meeting that this guy means business". All spoilt by some racists

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:20 pm

Perhaps the ones going on this march against the changes could change it so they meet up and give the owners a nice hello instead of malaysians out etc etc

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:20 pm

earnieblue wrote:T.g is more than likely coming over to clean out his office and say f**k you lot,and who could blame him if he did

That's almost certainly what will happen - but he won't say it like that - he will say it politely unlike many fans who have been allowed to post racist items on messageboards thinking they are big and clever and destroying our club in the process. :twisted:

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:20 pm

Annis been reading some of your posts and they've been strong and aimed at VT, accusing him of being a dictator, not giving a f*** and not caring.

Perhaps in the cold light of day you need to lead the apologies to the man who is currently bank rolling our club and looking to increase income to benefit Cardiff City FC.

Not a dig just saying as it is.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:22 pm

Ackers wrote:Guy on the real sports phone in just said. "Langston debt days away from being signed off. Plans already drawn up for the extra seating. All evidence shown tonight in the meeting that this guy means business". All spoilt by some racists

I'm so angry, its hard not to resort to insults myself, which I have never done on this messageboard in any of my posts, even though there have been many provocative ones the other way agaisnt me over the last couple of days.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:22 pm

We are miles away from achieving any goal. We haven't got the players or players coming through.. Not for a while yet all we could get are has Beens on free xfers and that's only if we free up wages...
If they go league 1 next season

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:25 pm

The amount of racism allowed to be posted on this forum is appalling Annis. And the amount of derogatory comments towards the men who have bailed us out of the shit has been equally appalling. Shameful in fact. They are a proud and honourable people and make no mistake comments on here and other sites will have done a great deal of harm.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:25 pm

Forever Blue wrote:On Sunday, its not all dead in the water at all. VT is not walking away from our Great Club. Carl will update you later.

Just left the meeting where we were all united .

The threats to VT on Facebook groups have been disgusting and have hurt Tan.

Our Bluebird had been agreed to stay on the badge last night.


Edited.

The Langston deal(paid off) is virtually all but signed. :ayatollah:

We are all entitled to our opinions.

BUT RACISM or THREATS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON THIS FORUM OR IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

It was brought to our attention that on Facebook, Racism and threats had been done.



Tony & big Gwyn seem to be devastated on the news coming out of the meeting, whats done is done now and lets hope their is room for compromise. People seem to think that VT was just going to give us £100million, the fact of the matter would have been the club would have been an extra £100million indebted.... So those who think us anti-red had fucked up then think on, if the likes of Swansea & Blackpool can do it on half the budget we had under Jones last 2 seasons so can we, we have that chemistry and right coaching. We are not that far away from achieving our goal.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:27 pm

If VT bugger off, this message board will be partly to blame for the vile comment made towards the malaysians and also helping swansea to become the biggest club in wales.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:29 pm

been away so not been able to post tidy on here, so
i must say to find out some people have been using racial comments against our current owners.
irrelevant of what they wanted to do, things can be sorted with debate and sense, not threats and abuse.

i'm still concerned that this is some sort of smoke screen for some other issue, but cant put a finger on it.

there was never in a million years the name change and badge would have gone unopposed, but there could have been compromises to reach a happy medium.

like the away shirt being red, and a dragon shadow put into the shirt not on the badge.

that said, i would rather be playing the likes of Carlisle n Lincoln in lower divisions, than lose our bluebirds Identity.

lets hope the talks TG is flying in for can put an end to rumor mongering and a secure future, for investors and fans alike.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:30 pm

wayne wrote:If VT bugger off, this message board will be partly to blame for the vile comment made towards the malaysians and also helping swansea to become the biggest club in wales.

:lol: :lol: :lol: some people , get real wayne.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:31 pm

It is not just the racism that is insulting, but the swearing as well, some people just seam to think that by swearing, they have a stronger case , even now with the criticism of the racisist people feel that by using foul language, they prove their point, wrong guy's you just show your lack of or the forgetting of an education.
Every time I read a post that contains swearing I rarely finish the post, I would imaging there other people who feel the same, I had a guy the other day call me a whore and a c**t, just because my view was different from his, when I confronted him on the board he said it was just a joke, some joke.
Just for the record most of my posts stated that I was in favour of the red shirts, didn't want the badge change, but would have accepted it if I had to, if people disagree then fine but don't insult me.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:32 pm

Welshpaul wrote:Annis been reading some of your posts and they've been strong and aimed at VT, accusing him of being a dictator, not giving a f*** and not caring.

Perhaps in the cold light of day you need to lead the apologies to the man who is currently bank rolling our club and looking to increase income to benefit Cardiff City FC.

Not a dig just saying as it is.


Totally agree. Annis mate you seem to dodge the difficult questions, like I asked you last night would you attend games if we played in red - no answer - to late no as no is an easy answer. I think you also need to come out and condemn and ban these racist numpties...

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:33 pm

The Premier 1 wrote:been away so not been able to post tidy on here, so
i must say to find out some people have been using racial comments against our current owners.
irrelevant of what they wanted to do, things can be sorted with debate and sense, not threats and abuse.

i'm still concerned that this is some sort of smoke screen for some other issue, but cant put a finger on it.

there was never in a million years the name change and badge would have gone unopposed, but there could have been compromises to reach a happy medium.

like the away shirt being red, and a dragon shadow put into the shirt not on the badge.

that said, i would rather be playing the likes of Carlisle n Lincoln in lower divisions, than lose our bluebirds Identity.

lets hope the talks TG is flying in for can put an end to rumor mongering and a secure future, for investors and fans alike.


Problem is any hope of compromise (& btw your ideas are not bad Email them to TG) was scuppered when someone leaked the details.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:37 pm

mmmm while you are saying this now why were you slagging tg off in another thread? because he is in malasia not here? just dont know fact from fiction on here! (quote) he doesnt give a fck about us! (unquote) life seems to be what can i say next to arouse anger or the like!! confusing just a bit?

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:38 pm

Annis and the rest of the people slagging the malaysians off fuelled the fire for the racist wankers in fairness, looks like Annis nuclear blue and everyone else who signed that petition all got egg on they're faces now FACT

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:38 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
The Premier 1 wrote:been away so not been able to post tidy on here, so
i must say to find out some people have been using racial comments against our current owners.
irrelevant of what they wanted to do, things can be sorted with debate and sense, not threats and abuse.

i'm still concerned that this is some sort of smoke screen for some other issue, but cant put a finger on it.

there was never in a million years the name change and badge would have gone unopposed, but there could have been compromises to reach a happy medium.

like the away shirt being red, and a dragon shadow put into the shirt not on the badge.

that said, i would rather be playing the likes of Carlisle n Lincoln in lower divisions, than lose our bluebirds Identity.

lets hope the talks TG is flying in for can put an end to rumor mongering and a secure future, for investors and fans alike.


Problem is any hope of compromise (& btw your ideas are not bad Email them to TG) was scuppered when someone leaked the details.


tony. maybe. they feel they cant trust people. the ones that were told in confidence? :roll:

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:41 pm

Everyone who's been racist should be ban with out a thought!

I have seen this racism and its really shocking!

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:42 pm

Those who behaved like numbskulls have dragged our proud club into potentially the dark ages. A colour of a shirt and a badge versus the long term future and stability of this great club - madness. Biting the hand that feeds you comes to mind. One has dialogue before planned demos and insults are casted - a good poker player waits to see what's on the table first before showing their hand and if you purport to represent individuals you gauge all views not just selective ones and go on to represent the majority even if it's in conflict to your own - As an ex service man I feel sad when various cap badges of great regiments are confined to history and are merged into new ones, but one does not forget its past, it is remembered with great fondness and one does their best to make the new regiment as good as its predecessor. Thats the issue for me having a club, a new regiment, moving forward into a new era, proud of its roots and history. Like many I have witnessed the various changes over recent time - 40 years for what its worth, has been through, colour of kits, badge changes, owners who have promised the earth and never delivered, whatever - but to have no club and confined Cardiff City F C to the history books, well that's disastrous and guess what only Cardiff fans will suffer, regardless of stature or age, because rest assured no one else gives a f**k.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:43 pm

The Langston deal(paid off) is virtually all but signed.

We are all entitled to our opinions.

BUT RACISM or THREATS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON THIS FORUM OR IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

It was brought to our attention that on Facebook, Racism and threats had been done.

Surely the idiots who have posted these remarks can be traced and prosecuted ? I am pretty sure it is against the law and now illegal to print rachist comments.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:48 pm

T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:The Langston deal(paid off) is virtually all but signed.

We are all entitled to our opinions.

BUT RACISM or THREATS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON THIS FORUM OR IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

It was brought to our attention that on Facebook, Racism and threats had been done.

Surely the idiots who have posted these remarks can be traced and prosecuted ? I am pretty sure it is against the law and now illegal to print rachist comments.

Agreed - response please

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:49 pm

You can keep your spin to yourself.

We're in trouble and the fans leaders who whipped up this frenzy should be held to account.

This forum has been a disgrace and nothing was done about it because it suited the agenda of the egomainiacs.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:49 pm

1. The racist comments and personal insults to VT specifically and to the Malaysians generally are inexcusable but I'm sure as intelligent men they understand that you will always get a handful of idiots unable to express themselves in a civilised manner. They will also understand that these people are in a very small minority. It wouldn't make sense to abandon their ideas based on the insults of a handful of numbskulls.

2. I was appalled initially at the thought of losing our nickname of the Bluebirds and our blue strip but over the last 24 hours or so had come around to the idea simply because of the promised £100m. Reading the comments on the forums it seems that a lot of other fans had gone through the same process. I was hopeful that perhaps a compromise could be found to at least keep the Bluebird.

3. TG has made a statement which on the face of it withdraws the proposed investment and keeps the status quo regarding the kit and the Bluebird although now we are being told that he is coming over for talks.

4. None of this has been handled very well and there are lessons to be learned by all parties but we as fans have to get the message over to TG and VT that we are prepared to talk and we are prepared to listen to what they have to say. If they are serious about the £100m we have to listen but we are also entitled to put forward our point of view regarding the things that are so precious to us. There has to be a middle ground. There has to be a way forward.

5. It doesn't help when some "more prominent fans" openly declare that they don't trust the Malaysians, who to be honest have always acted with honesty and integrity. The person who leaked this news before TG had a chance to outline the plans to us has a lot to answer for.

6. Let's hope we can persuade the Malaysian investors that most of us are reasonable and well mannered people like themselves. I'm sure this can be worked out but how can we best get this message across to them? :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:50 pm

Annis with all due respect the racism has been prevalentvon here too. I brought it to the attention of a moderator and ask for a notice to be put up last night. Why was nothing done then???? Is it only now that you've got your way and what you want that you are prepared to denounce it? If that is the case then that is both low and weak. And before i'm banned i'm asking the question publicly so you have opportunity to answer in the same vein and honedtly

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:51 pm

Any racisim is disgusting, the malaysians are very proud people and I Wouldnt blame them for taking it personally and leaving us... most fans including myself did not wabt a change but would Av accepted certain changes for the better of our club... The whole scenario should not Av been leaked and the intentions of what plans there were should Av be released in a proper statement. Any person who racially abused the malaysians should Av no place at our club. They are not welcome in my eyes... There are ways and means of doing things diplomatically and these should Av been followed.... Thanks to a small minority we may not Av a club to follow....

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:52 pm

moonboots wrote:1. The racist comments and personal insults to VT specifically and to the Malaysians generally are inexcusable but I'm sure as intelligent men they understand that you will always get a handful of idiots unable to express themselves in a civilised manner. They will also understand that these people are in a very small minority. It wouldn't make sense to abandon their ideas based on the insults of a handful of numbskulls.

2. I was appalled initially at the thought of losing our nickname of the Bluebirds and our blue strip but over the last 24 hours or so had come around to the idea simply because of the promised £100m. Reading the comments on the forums it seems that a lot of other fans had gone through the same process. I was hopeful that perhaps a compromise could be found to at least keep the Bluebird.

3. TG has made a statement which on the face of it withdraws the proposed investment and keeps the status quo regarding the kit and the Bluebird although now we are being told that he is coming over for talks.

4. None of this has been handled very well and there are lessons to be learned by all parties but we as fans have to get the message over to TG and VT that we are prepared to talk and we are prepared to listen to what they have to say. If they are serious about the £100m we have to listen but we are also entitled to put forward our point of view regarding the things that are so precious to us. There has to be a middle ground. There has to be a way forward.

5. It doesn't help when some "more prominent fans" openly declare that they don't trust the Malaysians, who to be honest have always acted with honesty and integrity. The person who leaked this news before TG had a chance to outline the plans to us has a lot to answer for.

6. Let's hope we can persuade the Malaysian investors that most of us are reasonable and well mannered people like themselves. I'm sure this can be worked out but how can we best get this message across to them? :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

But there weren't that many reasonable people coming out and expressing their views over the last few days and this gave the impression that the vast majority were supporting the agenda being peddled here.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:53 pm

I predicted this scenario two days ago.

I cannot believe this business people would walk away because of the abuse they have had , even though I agree it's disgusting. They would have thought this through throughly, this now gives them the opportunity to wal away and put the blame on the small minded City fans that could not go with change and secure a future.

TG will be "looking for investors" enter one Sam .In a way I hope I am right and this was a ploy to bring Sam back as a saviour and allow the Maylasians to leave without he baggage of failures.

If this doesnt happened , we have shot ourselves in the foot and probably should have stayed at Ninian Park and play in Div 2,as the fans who would have loved this to happen might have got part of their wish.

I have watched City since 1969 and I can honestly say this is the first time I feel ashamed by some of the abuse some that some of our fans have given without finding out all the facts.

Really thinking of calling it a day :old

Bring on the abuse boys :ayatollah:

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:54 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
moonboots wrote:1. The racist comments and personal insults to VT specifically and to the Malaysians generally are inexcusable but I'm sure as intelligent men they understand that you will always get a handful of idiots unable to express themselves in a civilised manner. They will also understand that these people are in a very small minority. It wouldn't make sense to abandon their ideas based on the insults of a handful of numbskulls.

2. I was appalled initially at the thought of losing our nickname of the Bluebirds and our blue strip but over the last 24 hours or so had come around to the idea simply because of the promised £100m. Reading the comments on the forums it seems that a lot of other fans had gone through the same process. I was hopeful that perhaps a compromise could be found to at least keep the Bluebird.

3. TG has made a statement which on the face of it withdraws the proposed investment and keeps the status quo regarding the kit and the Bluebird although now we are being told that he is coming over for talks.

4. None of this has been handled very well and there are lessons to be learned by all parties but we as fans have to get the message over to TG and VT that we are prepared to talk and we are prepared to listen to what they have to say. If they are serious about the £100m we have to listen but we are also entitled to put forward our point of view regarding the things that are so precious to us. There has to be a middle ground. There has to be a way forward.

5. It doesn't help when some "more prominent fans" openly declare that they don't trust the Malaysians, who to be honest have always acted with honesty and integrity. The person who leaked this news before TG had a chance to outline the plans to us has a lot to answer for.

6. Let's hope we can persuade the Malaysian investors that most of us are reasonable and well mannered people like themselves. I'm sure this can be worked out but how can we best get this message across to them? :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

But there weren't that many reasonable people coming out and expressing their views over the last few days and this gave the impression that the vast majority were supporting the agenda being peddled here.


I think that the people in charge need to take the blame for that. Yesterday it was almost encouraged that people make millions of threads shouting down the pro Malaysian people while praising some of the posters that were abusing us.

Re: " TG IS FLYING IN "

Thu May 10, 2012 6:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:On Sunday, its not all dead in the water at all. VT is not walking away from our Great Club. Carl will update you later.

Just left the meeting where we were all united .

The threats to VT on Facebook groups have been disgusting and have hurt Tan.

Our Bluebird had been agreed to stay on the badge last night.


Edited.

The Langston deal(paid off) is virtually all but signed. :ayatollah:

We are all entitled to our opinions.

BUT RACISM or THREATS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON THIS FORUM OR IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

It was brought to our attention that on Facebook, Racism and threats had been done.


The police should be brought in for the racist stuff! :o