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Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:48 pm

No

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:50 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:
thehumblegringo wrote:
RFMH wrote:The man that got title winning Blackburn relegated bravo.

RH isn't a bad manager, but no one could lead the complete group of average that is the English National Football Team to victory. The batch is shit and unlike club football, thats not the managers fault.



Totally agree with this. It amazes me how few people see this!

What season did Blackburn win the title, and what year did they get relegated?

Was Roy Hodgson in charge of blackburn when they got relegated, or was it before that?

What percentage of his career does his time at Blackburn constitute?


i was on about the second part, no manager would be able to lead england to glory cos they're crap

Fair enough then ;)

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:52 pm

polo wrote:No


too many words? :roll:

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:56 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:No


too many words? :roll:

Its just a blog based on opinion.

I have my opinion and whatever I say you will say opposite.

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:57 pm

polo is already the bigest gobshite heere i cn tell

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:08 pm

tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:
thehumblegringo wrote:
RFMH wrote:The man that got title winning Blackburn relegated bravo.

RH isn't a bad manager, but no one could lead the complete group of average that is the English National Football Team to victory. The batch is shit and unlike club football, thats not the managers fault.



Totally agree with this. It amazes me how few people see this!

What season did Blackburn win the title, and what year did they get relegated?

Was Roy Hodgson in charge of blackburn when they got relegated, or was it before that?

What percentage of his career does his time at Blackburn constitute?



The Blackburn reference was more tongue in cheek. I said next line he was a good manager.

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:12 pm

He took over Blackburn a year after they won the league.

Decent manager where expectation isnt great. Flopped on the big stage.

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:16 pm

Personally don't give a flying f**k who manages England

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:17 pm

polo wrote:He took over Blackburn a year after they won the league.

Decent manager where expectation isnt great. Flopped on the big stage.


The 'big stage' being international football? The Euros? The World Cup?

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:17 pm

The job's cursed anyway!

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:23 pm

if you ask me , hodgson is my first choice :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:30 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:He took over Blackburn a year after they won the league.

Decent manager where expectation isnt great. Flopped on the big stage.


The 'big stage' being international football? The Euros? The World Cup?

At big clubs where the expectation is high.

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:03 pm

polo wrote:Almost as inept as the Welsh FA.

Hodgson over Redknapp? Hmmmm.

Not sure what to make of it. good or bad i cant work it out.......

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:25 pm

polo wrote:Almost as inept as the Welsh FA.

Hodgson over Redknapp? Hmmmm.


Hodgson has done well with both Fulham and WBA to get them both to mid table...but as you said polo over Harry :roll:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ver-812971

Re: English FA

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:25 pm

polo wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:He took over Blackburn a year after they won the league.

Decent manager where expectation isnt great. Flopped on the big stage.


The 'big stage' being international football? The Euros? The World Cup?

At big clubs where the expectation is high.


Irrelevant either way. It's an international job and his experience of dealing with high expectations at national level is very good.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 5:56 am

OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:He took over Blackburn a year after they won the league.

Decent manager where expectation isnt great. Flopped on the big stage.


The 'big stage' being international football? The Euros? The World Cup?

At big clubs where the expectation is high.


Irrelevant either way. It's an international job and his experience of dealing with high expectations at national level is very good.

High expectations at where? Switzerland? Finland? UAE?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stick to politics kid

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 7:21 am

polo wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:
polo wrote:He took over Blackburn a year after they won the league.

Decent manager where expectation isnt great. Flopped on the big stage.


The 'big stage' being international football? The Euros? The World Cup?

At big clubs where the expectation is high.


Irrelevant either way. It's an international job and his experience of dealing with high expectations at national level is very good.

High expectations at where? Switzerland? Finland? UAE?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stick to politics kid


Yes, Switzerland at the World Cup and Euros. That's high expectation regardless of your ignorance towards the countries involved.

Remind me of Redknapp's, international managerial experience?

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 8:36 am

i,m not against roy.steady hand,organised and unlikely to cause outrage.rednapp has done well at tottenham but i reckon 4th is about hos limit,great going forward but not so good defensively.tbh i,m not that bothered.i,m sure i,ll raise my game come the euro,s but i don,t expect much off them anytime tbh.the f.a are inept so i knew they,d mess this up.the truth is there are no outstanding englishmen for the job.fact.these clowns also found a bloke guilty and punished him by removing him as england captain before the court of the land had heard any evidence.rumour round here is that if roy goes then the baggies will be after chris hughton in the summer.for that reason i hope rednapp gets it now :D .as you can see ,i put blues over england

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 8:51 am

Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 10:42 am

brick1964 wrote:Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

maybe or wasn,t fawning over them .if he went he,d want to take all his mates with him.do the f.a want to pay for that.roy went to baggies with a remit to work with appleton etc.he,s quite willing to go solo .you could be right though

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 12:34 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
Yes, Switzerland at the World Cup and Euros. That's high expectation regardless of your ignorance towards the countries involved.

Remind me of Redknapp's, international managerial experience?


Wow he got Switzerland to the finals of two majors 20 years ago :roll: And then did f**k all once he got there. Which didnt matter as expectations were not high.

Somehow that is not the same level of high expectation that a top international job brings.

Besides, I think that experience is pretty redundant in todays game, its chanmged beyond recognition in the last 20 years but you wouldnt know that as you werent even born when Hodgson was in charge of the Swiss so quite how you can champion his time in charge there with such gusto I dont know. :?

So Redknapp, hasnt got International experience? Wow. Neither do most international managers, they have to start their international career somewhere :roll:

What international experience did Del Bosque have before he become World Cup WINNER ? Are you going to claim Roy is a better manager? :lol:

What Redknapp has got more experience of than Roy is dealing with modern footballs higher expectations, and top world class players / primadonnas.

Look at Roys modern day stab at a top job with high expectation, dealing with world class players and I rest my case.

Stick to the politics kid, where you are far more adept. :ayatollah:

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 12:36 pm

jtc wrote:
brick1964 wrote:Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

maybe or wasn,t fawning over them .if he went he,d want to take all his mates with him.do the f.a want to pay for that.roy went to baggies with a remit to work with appleton etc.he,s quite willing to go solo .you could be right though


Redknapp isnt a "Yes" man. Simple as that.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 1:02 pm

polo wrote:
jtc wrote:
brick1964 wrote:Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

maybe or wasn,t fawning over them .if he went he,d want to take all his mates with him.do the f.a want to pay for that.roy went to baggies with a remit to work with appleton etc.he,s quite willing to go solo .you could be right though


Redknapp isnt a "Yes" man. Simple as that.



Cloughie didn't get the England manager's job for the same reason and look at how many people were calling for him to get it.

That's the problem with these suits - not just in England, but elsewhere too - they always seem to be so out of touch with the real world.

Roy Hodgson is the new Ron Greenwood, in my opinion and will be just as unsuccessful. As much as I'm a proud Welshman, I would like to see England do well at international level - not just the Euros, but the World Cup as well. Maybe they'll meet us in a final some time!

:lol:

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 1:21 pm

Nedd Glas wrote:
polo wrote:
jtc wrote:
brick1964 wrote:Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

maybe or wasn,t fawning over them .if he went he,d want to take all his mates with him.do the f.a want to pay for that.roy went to baggies with a remit to work with appleton etc.he,s quite willing to go solo .you could be right though


Redknapp isnt a "Yes" man. Simple as that.



Cloughie didn't get the England manager's job for the same reason and look at how many people were calling for him to get it.

That's the problem with these suits - not just in England, but elsewhere too - they always seem to be so out of touch with the real world.

Roy Hodgson is the new Ron Greenwood, in my opinion and will be just as unsuccessful. As much as I'm a proud Welshman, I would like to see England do well at international level - not just the Euros, but the World Cup as well. Maybe they'll meet us in a final some time!

:lol:


Same here Nedd. I prefer them to do well, have more in common withn Englishman than a Spaniard or a Ukranian.

Seeing as we never get there :lol: its a bit more interesting when our neighbours get there.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 1:28 pm

polo wrote:
Nedd Glas wrote:
polo wrote:
jtc wrote:
brick1964 wrote:Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

maybe or wasn,t fawning over them .if he went he,d want to take all his mates with him.do the f.a want to pay for that.roy went to baggies with a remit to work with appleton etc.he,s quite willing to go solo .you could be right though


Redknapp isnt a "Yes" man. Simple as that.



Cloughie didn't get the England manager's job for the same reason and look at how many people were calling for him to get it.

That's the problem with these suits - not just in England, but elsewhere too - they always seem to be so out of touch with the real world.

Roy Hodgson is the new Ron Greenwood, in my opinion and will be just as unsuccessful. As much as I'm a proud Welshman, I would like to see England do well at international level - not just the Euros, but the World Cup as well. Maybe they'll meet us in a final some time!

:lol:


Same here Nedd. I prefer them to do well, have more in common withn Englishman than a Spaniard or a Ukranian.

Seeing as we never get there :lol: its a bit more interesting when our neighbours get there.


True. I'll cheer the Scots and the Irish, as well, although I'm still bitter about 1977 and 1985 with those results against Scotland.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Too young to remember 77 but 85 was heartbreaking. People go on about the side that just missed out on the 94 world cup but that 85 team had some top players.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 2:01 pm

polo wrote:Too young to remember 77 but 85 was heartbreaking. People go on about the side that just missed out on the 94 world cup but that 85 team had some top players.


'77 was the infamous Joe Jordan handball and '85 I was there with my father and we couldn't believe that penalty decision. I watched the '93 defeat against Romania on the telly, because I was convinced we were going to lose, plus I was pi$$ed off with the FAW for the way they gave out the tickets.

I've only had a couple of great moments watching Wales: 1-0 v Germany at the old Arms Park/National Stadium in '91 and the 2-1 v Italy at the Mill Stad in 2002. Germany away in '91 was a great trip, but we got stuffed 4-1 in Nuremberg.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 3:26 pm

Wow he got Switzerland to the finals of two majors 20 years ago :roll: And then did f**k all once he got there. Which didnt matter as expectations were not high.

Somehow that is not the same level of high expectation that a top international job brings.

Besides, I think that experience is pretty redundant in todays game, its chanmged beyond recognition in the last 20 years but you wouldnt know that as you werent even born when Hodgson was in charge of the Swiss so quite how you can champion his time in charge there with such gusto I dont know. :?

So Redknapp, hasnt got International experience? Wow. Neither do most international managers, they have to start their international career somewhere :roll:

What international experience did Del Bosque have before he become World Cup WINNER ? Are you going to claim Roy is a better manager? :lol:

What Redknapp has got more experience of than Roy is dealing with modern footballs higher expectations, and top world class players / primadonnas.

Look at Roys modern day stab at a top job with high expectation, dealing with world class players and I rest my case.

Stick to the politics kid, where you are far more adept. :ayatollah:


He did very well actually. Lost only one game during qualification for World Cup 1994 in a group with Italy and Portugal (the same Italian side that lost the final on penalties.) Furthermore, he took the Swiss to 3rd in the FIFA rankings which is higher than the English have ever been. So he clearly didn't do "f**k all". Of course, as you say, I wasn't born then. However I wasn't born during the reign of James I yet I can still argue that he was an egotistical maniac. Simple research.

Yes, the game has changed alot; and Hodgson has witnessed this during almost 40 years of management across the globe. Invaluable experience in my opinion.

Redknapp is also less tactically aware. He was once quoted, after being queried on tactics by a substitute, as saying "Just tell Pavlyuchenko to f***king run around a bit". Good bloke? Definitely. Tactician? Definitely not.

As for Hodgson's Liverpool record, he was severely hampered by the press' unfair rhetoric (from the very start) that he wasn't good enough. Also, he struggled with the constant presence of Dalglish. Could any manager compete with 'King Kenny' in Liverpool? The fan's wanted him back, so Hodgson's exit was an unjust inevitability.

I feel that Hodgson is simply a better candidate than Redknapp. Of course, if results aren't favourable and they exit the Euros early there will be the inevitable cries of "should of been 'arry!". I understand this, he was the people's choice, but I don't think he would have been the correct footballing choice.

As for the politics; this is a football forum, and I'll discuss it all I like.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 3:37 pm

AVB should of got it in fairness.

Re: English FA

Tue May 01, 2012 9:35 pm

polo wrote:
Nedd Glas wrote:
polo wrote:
jtc wrote:
brick1964 wrote:Harry Said No....To the FA.

Don't Believe the Hype. :roll:

maybe or wasn,t fawning over them .if he went he,d want to take all his mates with him.do the f.a want to pay for that.roy went to baggies with a remit to work with appleton etc.he,s quite willing to go solo .you could be right though


Redknapp isnt a "Yes" man. Simple as that.



Cloughie didn't get the England manager's job for the same reason and look at how many people were calling for him to get it.

That's the problem with these suits - not just in England, but elsewhere too - they always seem to be so out of touch with the real world.

Roy Hodgson is the new Ron Greenwood, in my opinion and will be just as unsuccessful. As much as I'm a proud Welshman, I would like to see England do well at international level - not just the Euros, but the World Cup as well. Maybe they'll meet us in a final some time!

:lol:


Same here Nedd. I prefer them to do well, have more in common withn Englishman than a Spaniard or a Ukranian.

Seeing as we never get there :lol: its a bit more interesting when our neighbours get there.

i,m the same .i hope all englands neighbours do well.