" Watford fan's perspective "

To be honest although Watford put it about to disrupt us, the tackle on Conway in my opinion was a fair tackle. He slid in from the side and cleanly took the ball first before catching Conway with the momentum following through. I think if it was the other way around we would all be saying it was a good tackle. Unfortunately, slide tackles now seem to be automatic fouls and the sport is getting more and more pathetic. In my opinion I thought we dominated the first half and second half we sat back and allowed Watford to come at us. The free kick leading to their goal was very harsh mind and the goal looked offside. Even if Nosworthy was onside, a few Watford players were queuing up alongside Nosworthy and at least one of them had to be offside, meaning they would be interfering with play. I've watched their goal a few times and a few Watford players are goal side of our defensive line when the free kick is taken, so how it wasn't offside is beyond me. Regardless, although it probably looks like yet another key decision that's gone against us, none of us can deny Watford were by far the better team second half and deserved a point.

Did the lad on Conway seem in control? I don't think so

Good evening all. Just thought I would share a couple of my thoughts with you about the game today.

Firstly the pitch certainly did not make things easy for either team today. The ball seemed to bobble about all over the place and there was a real zip to the surface with the rain. You would think that playing on a pitch destroyed by the saracens on a regular basis we would have been used to it, but i think everybody struggled a bit today.

Secondly the tackles. I have browsed the forum and seen an awful lot of negative comments about our tackles being dangerous, too dirty etc. I even read somewhere someone with the view that Dyche should be banned from managing (get real).

I admit that Hogg's tackle does look horrible in the photo, although I would point out he did win the ball. He did collect the player on the way through and so it was a foul, and perhaps a different ref might have given a red. I think Mr Deadman probably thought that as it was not two footed or from behind it might not have warranted serious foul play. I have also seen someone suggest that the tackle was deliberately malicious, Hogg is a young lad and just not that type of player. Overall we did try our luck with the ref today, and I reckon the wet pitch probably meant that we were liable to pick up more yellow cards than we might normally see.

Thirdly I think overall the hornets were probably the better side. I thought the cardiff goal was slightly against the run of play, after what had been a fairly even first half. Cardiff dominated until about the half hour mark at which point we pulled ourselves back into the game. Miller's goal made me realise just how much we miss a player like Cowie.
The second half was perhaps one of the most one sided 45 minutes of football I have seen this season. I think had Miller not hit the post, you probably would have clinched it but as it was your style of play lead to the end result.

From an outsiders point of view; Malky has not learned a jot in the last 12 months. The football was negative, why oh why would you ever sit back on a 1 goal lead at home. After half time they just looked like they had the energy all sucked out of them. Our goal was coming all half, there was no way we were not going to score, it was just when. Based on the 2nd half display we definitely deserved a point.

What it showed me is that Watford really need some quality in the final third, and that Cardiff need to man up. Had Cardiff played the second half in the same manner as the first Im sure that you would all be at home tonight toasting three more points. Honestly I don't think playing that style of football will you get promoted. You might make the playoffs, but I honestly don't think you will win them.

I was also surprised to not see Mason? Injured?

I hope Conway is not injured too badly, and wish you luck but in this hornet fans opinion Malky needs to buck his ideas up.

good post mate i agree with a lot you have written

watford are like dirty leeds

very dirty play by watford today, 3 of our players got token off for medical attention,

that carl dickison should of been sent off! not only booked, some dangeorous tackles from him and swearing to the ref?

Watford were very poor but our sit back tactics at home made them look better than they were,cardiff were awful.
"cardiff players are weak" tell that to craig conway who may well have a broken ankle.Absolutely horrendous tackle and a disgrace,
conway looked most likely to make something happen aswell,we missed the natural width he gives.

Cant say I disagree with a lot of that, I thought Watford played well and in a way were unlucky to go away with just a point

Wasn't impress with your tackling, some of it was just dirty play, but the sean dyche bit made me laugh

To say Cardiff need to man up..."can you explain why?"

On the other hand good luck for the rest of the season

There were no players out there today in a blue shirt who took the game by the scruff of the neck and looked to make things happen. Football is a team game, but sometimes an individual can have such a huge impact on the game. Look at Balotelli he has single handedly caused City to implode. In watford games this season John Eustace has pulled the rest of the team into the game in his wake.

There were no leaders in your cardiff team today, no one who said '**** this, lets **** up these english ****holes.' Sometimes thats what you need, and its players like that who will get you out of the league. To be honest I would not have known who the cardiff captain was today were it not for the coin toss at the start.

That is absolutely spot on though mate and im surprised us cardiff fans havent noticed this,the only communicating on the pitch I saw was taylor and turner squabbling like children

Your team were very second rate, one of the worst teams I have seen at the CCS this season. Only reason you got a point was we backed off and defended to deep against you. And you are also a very dirty side, hope you get relegated next season. And for you lot to sing our "support is f*cking shit" take a look at yourselves you are a shit team with shit fans who wouldn't know what good support really is. You can take that anyway you please..... oh and thanks for your best player, Malky and the staff

firstly some interesting replies all in all. i still honestly don't think it was a red card challenge, i have seen it again since. he won the ball and took the player. for all those saying it was intentional, i think you need to get real. the pitch was very wet and sometimes unfortunate things happen. he went in hard to win the ball, but that is something every young player is taught to do. lets be honest had one of your players actually manned up and done a tackle like that you guys would have been applauding it.

i hope conway is not injured and wish him a quick recovery.

Your team were very second rate, one of the worst teams I have seen at the CCS this season. Only reason you got a point was we backed off and defended to deep against you. And you are also a very dirty side, hope you get relegated next season. And for you lot to sing our "support is f*cking shit" take a look at yourselves you are a shit team with shit fans who wouldn't know what good support really is. You can take that anyway you please..... oh and thanks for your best player, Malky and the staff

now for this little gem. if we were second rate, we made you look third rate for 60 minutes. you say we are a very dirty side, but one game is not representative of how we have played over the season.

to be perfectly honest, yesterday your support was shit. who leaves a home game with 8 minutes left and the score at 1-1. genuinely felt sorry for the cardiff players when that happened yesterday. we may be a shit team, but we pay minimal wages and transfer fees and still manage on a regular basis to upset the big time charlies days.

as for the last comment. i do miss cowie, but other than that your welcome to them. bunch of mercenary assholes anyway, loyalty seems to be a rarity nowadays in football. malky is an ok manager, but i much prefer dyche and co.

if you consider baring in mind resources, wage budget, players in squad etc, who has done a better job this season malky or sean, i know i would pick sean. by evening keeping the watford team up he has performed a minor miracle.

Thirdly I think overall the hornets were probably the better side. I thought the cardiff goal was slightly against the run of play, after what had been a fairly even first half. Cardiff dominated until about the half hour mark at which point we pulled ourselves back into the game.

I agree with all you've said apart from that first part ... I'd have said the first half was more us, and the second half was more yours meaning it was 50-50, the match itself was quite dire, and a draw was it deserved.

If Hogg had seen red for that tackle, or millers second header went in off the post, the game would have been completely different.

Thirdly I think overall the hornets were probably the better side. I thought the cardiff goal was slightly against the run of play, after what had been a fairly even first half. Cardiff dominated until about the half hour mark at which point we pulled ourselves back into the game.

I agree with all you've said apart from that first part ... I'd have said the first half was more us, and the second half was more yours meaning it was 50-50, the match itself was quite dire, and a draw was it deserved.

If Hogg had seen red for that tackle, or millers second header went in off the post, the game would have been completely different.

agree with your last sentiment there. a second goal would have killed us of which is why im very surprised malky had you sit back.

Thirdly I think overall the hornets were probably the better side. I thought the cardiff goal was slightly against the run of play, after what had been a fairly even first half. Cardiff dominated until about the half hour mark at which point we pulled ourselves back into the game.

I agree with all you've said apart from that first part ... I'd have said the first half was more us, and the second half was more yours meaning it was 50-50, the match itself was quite dire, and a draw was it deserved.

If Hogg had seen red for that tackle, or millers second header went in off the post, the game would have been completely different.

agree with your last sentiment there. a second goal would have killed us of which is why im very surprised malky had you sit back.

And that's where he'lll (hopefully) learn from this and realise a second goal can kill teams off!

if you consider baring in mind resources, wage budget, players in squad etc, who has done a better job this season malky or sean, i know i would pick sean. by evening keeping the watford team up he has performed a minor miracle.

If you consider when Malky arrived at Cardiff there were 10 first team players in the squad and no backroom staff and he put together a play-off challenging side that until January was challenging for autos with less than £2 million spent on transfer fees and half the players in the squad barely championship standard and honestly wouldn't get into your team who's done a better job?


(The half that are barely championship standard were already here except one player who was a free transfer gamble).

Agree with the majority of quotes said on here, and agree with the OP that we dominated the first 25 minutes or so, and you dominated the majority of the second half.
I agree that the amount of fouls and seriousness was the worst witnessed this season down at the stadium, and think the elbow in the face was a big deal!.
I left the match feeling a bit gutted we conceeded a goal, but yes, agree could see it coming, it was just when.. but looking forward to reaching the playoffs which i'm sure we will ..
The other thing was, I am so thankful, we don't have your keeper!. is he always that dodgy? (can't be bothered looking up stats), he didn't look confident at all?. made one good save, but other than that I think the crowd had more of the ball than the players

i see conway appears not to have broken his ankle which is good news.

btw ive seen it again since and there is no way that our goal was offside, there was a cardiff player behind nosworthy playing them all onside.

anyway best of luck for the rest of the season and maybe we will see each other again next season.

Best of luck hornet
although id much prefer a cup final and promotion battle than mid table,merecenary arseholes? malky obviously has ambition and has more chance of furthering his career at cardiff than at watford,even youve got to admit that