"We Couldn't Spend The £4m Available In January But "

I know for a FACT the club didnt have enough money to push a deal through for Sordell. They are just pissing down our backs.

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Sorry Chris but there was £2million in a bank account ready to be paid as the downpayment to Watford for Sordell, the reason was his agent Sky Andrews went and auctioned the player to the highest bidder and Malky told me he was not getting into that situation.

Carl, its correct right, that they were sat there staring at a screen with £2m on a direct wired transfer for the down payment - waiting for the call to press the button..... thats what I heard? but were then told, sorry Cardiff - Deals off.....

Not what I was told yesterday by a friend of someone who attends the board meetings.

I cant go into names I dont want to get people in trouble but some of the stuff I heard about the way the club is being run was bonkers.

The Malaydians havent got a clue.

Chris I understand the reason not to name names but I was told this from someone in a similar position too.

What I was told yesterday Carl was unbelievable and whilst I dont think the malaysians have a hidden agenda I dont think they have the first clue about what is needed to run a succesful football club.

Apparently they are very superstitious and believe heavily in luck and good fortune.

What I was told yesterday Carl was unbelievable and whilst I dont think the malaysians have a hidden agenda I dont think they have the first clue about what is needed to run a succesful football club.

Apparently they are very superstitious and believe heavily in luck and good fortune.

I dont think luck and good fortune has made them Billionaires?

Strictly speaking the list does not tell the whole picture, some of them are loans, we signed loans too, and we also made two permanent signings. With one loan having gone back to his parent club and one appearing to be a dud then yes the other clubs do seem to have signed players who have made a difference, eg Dobbie, huseklepp, and Roberts all impacting their new clubs significantly.

Of course that list includes loan players but even West Ham in signing Maynard and Vaz Te didn't spend £4m. When MM moans about having a small squad the argument is lost when Blackpool sign 5 players which helps thier manager change 7 players, as he did yesterday against Southampton, and still get a result.

We have basically played the same group over and over, why?, because we haven't signed players who are ready to play at this level (Lawrence excepted).

The point I'm making is that the players were there but somehow we missed the boat. Big mistake in my opinion.

Not sure if people know this but Nicky Maynard is on £30k per week at WHU and Vaz Te is on somewhere around the £20k mark

What I was told yesterday Carl was unbelievable and whilst I dont think the malaysians have a hidden agenda I dont think they have the first clue about what is needed to run a succesful football club.

Apparently they are very superstitious and believe heavily in luck and good fortune.

I dont think luck and good fortune has made them Billionaires?

As we keep being told football is like no other business

Christ people need to get over this, it's bloody April now. Talk about thinking in the past.

People need something to moan about though
malky out

15,000 fans have put their money in to the club for next season, so they have shown their support,
We can all have our moan on a forum,as long as we keep turning up to support them, thats what really matters.

I agree. We can moan all we want but still support the team. I remember a shit 0-0 draw midweek against Halifax in the fourth division and buying some fags in the shop afterwards a face was in the queue ahead of me. The shopkeeper asked him the score and he said, without hesitation, 0-0 to us. That sums it up for me. Even when we are shit there is still hope, optimism and humour.

So Carl who is to blame our current board or Malky for not strengthening our squad in your opinion ?

Are you currently happy with Malky's tactics ?

If it isn't true that Malky had all that money to spend then why has he played along with the story that he did have the money. Not what you would expect from any manager. Hmmm?????

Malky told a group of us (12 or so) that he had bid for Sordell, Noone and Phillips. I don't think any manager would say that if it was not true.

Let's end this once and for all, Malky Mackay had the money to spend, the Malaysians backed Malky in January.

Even after the window shut and the loan window opened, TG and VT asked on a daily basis in the first week of that loan window, 'Where are our players?'

Malky was trying to get Mackie and Smith from QPR right up to the final day of the loan window but Hughes would not release the players be cause of QPR's results prior to the loan window closing, wages or loan fees were not an issue.

The reason we didn't get players in was a result of the type of player Malky will only bring into this club, rightly or wrongly but that is HIS reason.

Malky will be backed again in the summer, I have no doubt about that.

Mackie would have been a great signing, sheer pace, versatile and scores goals but that was never going to happen this season as he features regularly so any chance of a plan b Malky? No a bit like your tactics recently then!
Smith is getting on and no better than what we already have, a Liam Lawrence type signing?

So Carl who is to blame our current board or Malky for not strengthening our squad in your opinion ?

Are you currently happy with Malky's tactics ?

Who's to blame? The targets and the clubs in which said targets are from. They were the reluctant ones to come to us. Cant really strengthen if the players aren't willing to come/the clubs aren't willing to release them to us.

http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=70232

I refer to my earlier post where I was called a fool

Dazzy, your def not a fool.

Christ people need to get over this, it's bloody April now. Talk about thinking in the past.

People need something to moan about though
malky out

15,000 fans have put their money in to the club for next season, so they have shown their support,
We can all have our moan on a forum,as long as we keep turning up to support them, thats what really matters.

Problem is - the fans have a moan on the forum, then take it to the ground! I have groups of people infront and behind me calling the players, pricks, useless, bottlers, wankers, crap, shit....etc etc leaving on 35th minute for a HT pint, returning to their seats on the 55th minute for the rest of the 2nd half, then leaving the stadium on 80-85th minute to go home with the added BOOOO to go with it - when we are all trying to get behind the team.

I wonder why these people bother to turn up?

I'd rather have 12-13000 fans there who will make a noise and support than have 25,000 there with only half of them willing to support the team.

It doesn't surprise me that the players prefer to play away from home (Had a small conversation with Quinny about this) - with the loyal supporters to back them 100% than they do to play at home with the added pressure and all these negative factors. I actually considered giving up my Season Ticket to travel to all the away games instead - but due to work, wasn't viable. But am definitely going to try and get to more away games next season!

Fans are entitled to have a moan they pay their money into the club but I disagree with abusing players especially this season,I am not 100% sure about Malky but what I will say is he has got every player working hard which we all called for at the beginning of the season,there is an abundance of posts back in pre season asking for this and I think the players have worked hard and should be proud of themselves.If they were swaggering around the pitch acting like some of last years lot then maybe they deserve the odd slagging off but I don't believe any player has not played for the shirt.Get behind em I for the final push I say.

Look at what Roberts (Reading ) and Sharpe ( Southampton ) have added to their clubs in the last few months.

I may be wrong in thinking here but IMO has the carling cup final knackered our chances of promotion ? As in getting to the final and the number of season tickets sold ready for next season etc I know u can re-new etc but behind the scenes do they really want us to go up seems like the same old story. I think Malky may spend in the summer ready for An automatic push because let's be honest we where top3 until a bad run of results prior to the cupfinal

Personally I Think that we did bid for sordell/phillips/noone point be there these are young players who malky has got his portfolio on these so yes maybe being pickie as some would suggest but i think the lack of signings is simple and most of the others mentioned others teams have signed dont fit the bill for one reason alone is they dont have resale value too old etc and at top of theyre valuations etc. i think malky has promised the malayisa or been told to increase value of squad and if we develop players we can get a return on them. When malky said some players dont want to come i think is more down to malky will not gurantee first team action you have to earn it and the players would have to want to have a future with the city and not simply return to they parent clubs. like kiss signing permantely. only ones dont follow this rule are miller but i think in malkys eyes he was cheap as he was desperate to get of of turkey and liam lawrence but i he will be offered a contract in the summer.

so just wasting money on loans was never going to happen

I think we will still might make play offs butt to me doesnt really matter because with our squad compared to lots in our division we have been operating at the top of our game and with a couple more good young signing and shipping out the the malky deadwood earnie/keinan etc we could do really well.

I think as fans we have to accept we will build for promotion and not just throw money at it like under dave jones and the riddler and also think malaysains want player assest values to protect themselves if it doesnt happen. they are afterall sucessfull business men

Personally I Think that we did bid for sordell/phillips/noone point be there these are young players who malky has got his portfolio on these so yes maybe being pickie as some would suggest but i think the lack of signings is simple and most of the others mentioned others teams have signed dont fit the bill for one reason alone is they dont have resale value too old etc and at top of theyre valuations etc. i think malky has promised the malayisa or been told to increase value of squad and if we develop players we can get a return on them. When malky said some players dont want to come i think is more down to malky will not gurantee first team action you have to earn it and the players would have to want to have a future with the city and not simply return to they parent clubs. like kiss signing permantely. only ones dont follow this rule are miller but i think in malkys eyes he was cheap as he was desperate to get of of turkey and liam lawrence but i he will be offered a contract in the summer.

so just wasting money on loans was never going to happen

I think we will still might make play offs butt to me doesnt really matter because with our squad compared to lots in our division we have been operating at the top of our game and with a couple more good young signing and shipping out the the malky deadwood earnie/keinan etc we could do really well.

I think as fans we have to accept we will build for promotion and not just throw money at it like under dave jones and the riddler and also think malaysains want player assest values to protect themselves if it doesnt happen. they are afterall sucessfull business men

KISS???? Who is he? Last seen playing at Watford Boxing day hasn't had a look in since. Just play Donald every f*****g game even though he couldnt beat a man to save his arse and ran out of steam months ago.
I F*****g hate it when managers have blue eyes, Malky's are clearly Miller and Cowie!

I swear im living in a world of my own.

All of this "In Malky we trust" lark is nonsense. Since the middlesborough game we have lack ideas, squad strength or any cohesion whatsoever. I tend to agree hes been told "we aint going up this year" so we are just playing the same shit week in week out.

We all know what was needed. Width in the form of Conway (who has been playing in the form of his life then dropped) and strengthening up front. If as you were led to believe we had the money but it fell through BRING IN SOMEONE ON LOAN ffsake. But no.

Quite frankly its embarrassing but the fans turn up and just put up with it unconditionally. Dont get me wrong i will support the team through good and bad but dont blatantly lie to my face. They are not even trying and its heartbreaking.

This seasons championship is there to be won by anyone the teams are so inconsistent but at least we are consistent- at playing the wrong system with the wrong players

Why do people assume that every player wants to join us? Have you not thought that we just aren't an attractive proposition as other clubs are at this level? We are all Cardiff fans and love this club but our fans can be absolute dicks and maybe players have seen the way we've treated those players we've once worshiped when things go bad and don't fancy coming to us. Or maybe the structure at the club just isn't attractive enough.

Whatever the reason, it is naive to jump to a conclusion that it was either Malky or the Malaysians fault that we didn't sign anyone in January. It is possible that maybe every player we went for just didn't want to join us for whatever reason?

Why do people assume that every player wants to join us? Have you not thought that we just aren't an attractive proposition as other clubs are at this level? We are all Cardiff fans and love this club but our fans can be absolute dicks and maybe players have seen the way we've treated those players we've once worshiped when things go bad and don't fancy coming to us. Or maybe the structure at the club just isn't attractive enough.

Whatever the reason, it is naive to jump to a conclusion that it was either Malky or the Malaysians fault that we didn't sign anyone in January. It is possible that maybe every player we went for just didn't want to join us for whatever reason?

No point trying to get this point across to people, ive been trying for so long ive lost count. People just wont recognise that players may not want to go to us and they prefer to think of us being as big as Barcelona, Real Madrid, Arsenal etc and we are far from having that kind of popularity.

Reading all the posts on this topic i think neath bluebirds is spot on with his theory, it makes a lot of sense and most of of it is believable,im suprised more people havent agreed with him because it seems the obvious reason we didnt get any players in

Reading all the posts on this topic i think neath bluebirds is spot on with his theory, it makes a lot of sense and most of of it is believable,im suprised more people havent agreed with him because it seems the obvious reason we didnt get any players in

I said this in October/Nov/Jan and got slated for it.

In my opinion, the malaysians did not want to go up this year for a number of reasons:

1. The first one is that there are too many cronies and spongers on the board, that if we were to go up this year, they would reap all the benefits from getting to the premier league, and it is quite clear that vt and co want rid of these clowns, and Mark my words they will not be here next year, thank god and good riddance, there is one that they might keep on, but they also know that he has raped the club also.
2. Malky did not have any money in January and the bids for other players was just a smoke screen to apeise us fans.
3. We are not in a position, behind the scenes to go to the premier league, the whole set up is a joke and could not cope with the 30000+ crowds we would be getting.
4. The malaysians will soon be having a clear out and that means right throughout the club from boardroom to administrators, they are no mugs and have a clear plan to go up next season, when everything will be in place.
5. Malkey is fully aware of the plans, the frustrating thing for me is, don't f**k us about and play that shit football, play good quality, high tempo football on the ground like we did prior to Christmas and the new year, and if, as I believe we do not want to go up and have a long term plan, play the squad players in the play offs, but please do not ram this rubbish that we are playing now down our throats.

Don't ask me where I get my information from, just take it as this is my own view for now, that's all I/we ask is for to play decent football and please no bullshit anymore, we have supported this club for over 40 years, some of us and that's all we want is good footy, plenty of guts and honest players and staff, and the we roll on in to the premiership next year and compete with the big boys. (jacks will be back down by then, so don't shoot me for classing them as big)

Keep the faith all, it's coming, don't panic

I find it hard to believe they never wanted to go up, I just think they tried to do it on the cheap, But you make some excellent points.

Reading all the posts on this topic i think neath bluebirds is spot on with his theory, it makes a lot of sense and most of of it is believable,im suprised more people havent agreed with him because it seems the obvious reason we didnt get any players in

I said this in October/Nov/Jan and got slated for it.

A lot of us said we needed strengthening, me included. But when you look at the facts of the January window the clubs/players/agents didn't want the players to come to us. Frustrating admittedly but im not going to moan too much, the club tried and we failed. Onto the next window now where the money can be put to use on more permenant signings rather than more loan signings. And as for me following you, dont flatter yourself

In my opinion, the malaysians did not want to go up this year for a number of reasons:

1. The first one is that there are too many cronies and spongers on the board, that if we were to go up this year, they would reap all the benefits from getting to the premier league, and it is quite clear that vt and co want rid of these clowns, and Mark my words they will not be here next year, thank god and good riddance, there is one that they might keep on, but they also know that he has raped the club also.
2. Malky did not have any money in January and the bids for other players was just a smoke screen to apeise us fans.
3. We are not in a position, behind the scenes to go to the premier league, the whole set up is a joke and could not cope with the 30000+ crowds we would be getting.
4. The malaysians will soon be having a clear out and that means right throughout the club from boardroom to administrators, they are no mugs and have a clear plan to go up next season, when everything will be in place.
5. Malkey is fully aware of the plans, the frustrating thing for me is, don't f**k us about and play that shit football, play good quality, high tempo football on the ground like we did prior to Christmas and the new year, and if, as I believe we do not want to go up and have a long term plan, play the squad players in the play offs, but please do not ram this rubbish that we are playing now down our throats.

Don't ask me where I get my information from, just take it as this is my own view for now, that's all I/we ask is for to play decent football and please no bullshit anymore, we have supported this club for over 40 years, some of us and that's all we want is good footy, plenty of guts and honest players and staff, and the we roll on in to the premiership next year and compete with the big boys. (jacks will be back down by then, so don't shoot me for classing them as big)

Keep the faith all, it's coming, don't panic

I find it hard to believe they never wanted to go up, I just think they tried to do it on the cheap, But you make some excellent points.

Iagree i find it hard to believe we dont want to go up. but like he says its got to be cheaper to pay off the debt if we dont go up the greedy bastards would want more of the cash windfall that comes with premiership football, so if that what it takes to get out of the mess we are in i will begrudgingly settle for this

Reading all the posts on this topic i think neath bluebirds is spot on with his theory, it makes a lot of sense and most of of it is believable,im suprised more people havent agreed with him because it seems the obvious reason we didnt get any players in

I said this in October/Nov/Jan and got slated for it.

A lot of us said we needed strengthening, me included. But when you look at the facts of the January window the clubs/players/agents didn't want the players to come to us. Frustrating admittedly but im not going to moan too much, the club tried and we failed. Onto the next window now where the money can be put to use on more permenant signings rather than more loan signings. And as for me following you, dont flatter yourself

How did the other clubs get players in and many did strengthen true or not ?

99% of the time pays of if you strengthen in January, agreed ?

Reading all the posts on this topic i think neath bluebirds is spot on with his theory, it makes a lot of sense and most of of it is believable,im suprised more people havent agreed with him because it seems the obvious reason we didnt get any players in

I said this in October/Nov/Jan and got slated for it.

A lot of us said we needed strengthening, me included. But when you look at the facts of the January window the clubs/players/agents didn't want the players to come to us. Frustrating admittedly but im not going to moan too much, the club tried and we failed. Onto the next window now where the money can be put to use on more permenant signings rather than more loan signings. And as for me following you, dont flatter yourself

How did the other clubs get players in and many did strengthen true or not ?

99% of the time pays of if you strengthen in January, agreed ?

Some of the players they got were free's, others loans and transfers from other teams in the same division.
Players that arent overly brilliant, others which are good. Obviously strenghtening is good but in the case of certain players (Macheda, Diouf) wouldnt drop a division, other cases (Mackie, Smith, Noone, Phillips) the clubs did not want to get rid of them players.

Not always true. Sometimes it pays off, others it doesn't. We strenghtened last January and look how well that went
In other cases, take Swansea for example, strenghtens with just 1 player i believe, Fabio Borini and gets promoted. Then again, Borini is a top class player and is now playing regular football in Serie A so they struck lucky due to Rodgers having good connections with Chelsea.

Reading all the posts on this topic i think neath bluebirds is spot on with his theory, it makes a lot of sense and most of of it is believable,im suprised more people havent agreed with him because it seems the obvious reason we didnt get any players in

I said this in October/Nov/Jan and got slated for it.

A lot of us said we needed strengthening, me included. But when you look at the facts of the January window the clubs/players/agents didn't want the players to come to us. Frustrating admittedly but im not going to moan too much, the club tried and we failed. Onto the next window now where the money can be put to use on more permenant signings rather than more loan signings. And as for me following you, dont flatter yourself

How did the other clubs get players in and many did strengthen true or not ?

99% of the time pays of if you strengthen in January, agreed ?

Some of the players they got were free's, others loans and transfers from other teams in the same division.
Players that arent overly brilliant, others which are good. Obviously strenghtening is good but in the case of certain players (Macheda, Diouf) wouldnt drop a division, other cases (Mackie, Smith, Noone, Phillips) the clubs did not want to get rid of them players.

Not always true. Sometimes it pays off, others it doesn't. We strenghtened last January and look how well that went
In other cases, take Swansea for example, strenghtens with just 1 player i believe, Fabio Borini and gets promoted. Then again, Borini is a top class player and is now playing regular football in Serie A so they struck lucky due to Rodgers having good connections with Chelsea.

To be honest though as much as we all dont like to admit Swansea really were a one off and did it on the cheap and did well.

What I was told yesterday Carl was unbelievable and whilst I dont think the malaysians have a hidden agenda I dont think they have the first clue about what is needed to run a succesful football club.

Apparently they are very superstitious and believe heavily in luck and good fortune.

Was you told that somebody was sacked as they "were an unlucky person"?

What I was told yesterday Carl was unbelievable and whilst I dont think the malaysians have a hidden agenda I dont think they have the first clue about what is needed to run a succesful football club.

Apparently they are very superstitious and believe heavily in luck and good fortune.

Was you told that somebody was sacked as they "were an unlucky person"?

didnt hear that one but apparently the standard line to any probing question is "Stop thinking like Western Man".