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Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:46 pm

Many said give it time ? People seem to forget that this is malkys first season
Many said they were happy ? i am
We've been to Wembley ? that was a bonus
Many said we don't need to strengthen ? Many said we do ? i think we do need to strengthen, i have faith in the manager if he doesnt want to buy\loan then its up to him
Malky said 3 times in October we need strengthening ? riight players didnt come along that he wanted?!
Many said they would be happy with mid table ? So why so many moaning now ? cos they come to expect too much!
Thousands are voting with their feet and staying away, why ? cos they whinge and fuckin moan
Why are fans moaning ? Why ? why do the public moan in general?
Are you still happy ? im happy, at start of season.. it was always gonna be avoid relegation, not to have a trip to wembley and be in top half... yes we may have a bit of a shit dip in form but ITS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS! (and she aint singing yet)

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:49 pm

craig1927 wrote:Many said give it time ? People seem to forget that this is malkys first season
Many said they were happy ? i am
We've been to Wembley ? that was a bonus
Many said we don't need to strengthen ? Many said we do ? i think we do need to strengthen, i have faith in the manager if he doesnt want to buy\loan then its up to him
Malky said 3 times in October we need strengthening ? riight players didnt come along that he wanted?!
Many said they would be happy with mid table ? So why so many moaning now ? cos they come to expect too much!
Thousands are voting with their feet and staying away, why ? cos they whinge and fuckin moan
Why are fans moaning ? Why ? why do the public moan in general?
Are you still happy ? im happy, at start of season.. it was always gonna be avoid relegation, not to have a trip to wembley and be in top half... yes we may have a bit of a shit dip in form but ITS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS! (and she aint singing yet)


This.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:09 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
craig1927 wrote:Many said give it time ? People seem to forget that this is malkys first season
Many said they were happy ? i am
We've been to Wembley ? that was a bonus
Many said we don't need to strengthen ? Many said we do ? i think we do need to strengthen, i have faith in the manager if he doesnt want to buy\loan then its up to him
Malky said 3 times in October we need strengthening ? riight players didnt come along that he wanted?!
Many said they would be happy with mid table ? So why so many moaning now ? cos they come to expect too much!
Thousands are voting with their feet and staying away, why ? cos they whinge and fuckin moan
Why are fans moaning ? Why ? why do the public moan in general?
Are you still happy ? im happy, at start of season.. it was always gonna be avoid relegation, not to have a trip to wembley and be in top half... yes we may have a bit of a shit dip in form but ITS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS! (and she aint singing yet)


This.

as an outsider this seems about right.like iv posted on the malky out thread if you had been 10th all year and just squeezed the p/o you would be pleased.i think as ccfc have been up there all season its upped the anti.i think in the summer mm will try to get a few more flair players in.easier said than done.for example you have hard working wide midfield players(who play narrow at times).the obvious step is to get proper wingers.can you find wingers who want to track back and want to go past their defender?we,ve got burke and he is willing but they are few and far between who are up for doing both.if the expectations drop now and you do get in the p/o all will be well again.then its 3 games and anything can happen.the argument that the team(any team)will get relegated straight away dosn,t hold as with the new money generated you would have a least half a new team. good luck for the rest of the season

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:18 pm

It's been a pretty good season when you consider the state of the squad at the beginning of the campaign.

However, I would have hoped for Malky to have seen the obvious, and use the rest of the squad available to him - Conway, Blake, Naylor, Earnie etc. - as the regular starters are becoming tired.

That's all I ask for. :)

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:32 pm

Get football people in charge ffs!!!! :evil:

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:35 pm

Angry Man wrote:Get football people in charge ffs!!!! :evil:

who ridsdale? sam? craig white? milan manderic?

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:37 pm

milly44 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:Get football people in charge ffs!!!! :evil:

who ridsdale? sam?


Why not..? Say what you like about Ridsdale and Sam but none of them took the soul away from the club like these fuckers.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:55 pm

Forever Blue wrote:‎" 2 WINS OUT OF OUR LAST 13 LEAGUE/CUP GAMES/ SO WHAT IS THE SOLUTION ? "

Many said we were rebuilding ? To me, this season was always a rebuilding/transitional season under a new manager.
Many said give it time ? Malky previouly said he will need 3 transfer windows to assemble a squad he is happy with, so I will give him that length of time, then give an opinion on my thoughts of the squad Malky is happy with.
Many said sort the finances out first ? This is key to our future, I'm just thankful we still have a club at the end of the day and I will take many more seasons in the Championship if our finances are gradually getting sorted.
Many said they were happy ? I was happy and I still am happy, consolidation and a cup final is beyond anything I expected this season.
We've been to Wembley ? We didn't only go to Wembley, we won many new friends at Wembley with our performance full of guts, heart, passion and spirit.
We've been in the top 4 for 6 months of the season ? An incredible achievement with our small squad.
Many said we don't need to strengthen ? Many said we do ? Obviously, we needed to strengthen to maintain our promotion push, but what if we spent millions strengthening and still failed to get promoted? Consolidation and gradually paying off our debts are more than good enough for me.
Malky said 3 times in October we need strengthening ? Same as above.
The board said there was millions available ? I trust the board but if the money was there and we chose not to spend it because the players wouldn't come or we couldn't agree a fee, those millions can go to paying off our debts instead.
We made millions out of the Carling Cup ? I would be interested to know where this extra revenue has gone, paying off debts if not spend on players hopefully.
We've now sold 8,000 Season tickets ? But its still only the middle of March ? Our season ticket sales have gone up and up every season, but I think it will drop this season, not everyone can afford it and the football isn't as entertaining as previous seasons.
Many said they would be happy with mid table ? So why so many moaning now ? Some of us are unrealistic.
Thousands are voting with their feet and staying away, why ? I put this down to our current bad run of form and our predictable, boring football with no width, pace and very little creativity.
Many said they they thought this current board was the best ever ? This board have kept our club afloat.
Some are now questioning them ? This is incredible, but unfortunately when results dip there is a blame culture which is absolutely ridiculous.
Why are fans moaning ? Why ? Poor recent results, plus lack of signings in January to push us forwards, I can understand people getting frustrated over this but personally I am happy with this season and have very little to moan about.
Are you still happy ? Why ? Very happy as this season has exceeded my expectations.

Could everyone at least answer some of the questions. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


If you support the club through the good and rough times, surely we will get at least 18,600 season ticket holders next season ? As I already said above, I believe the season ticket sales will take a small drop next season, just my opinion.
Are these really rough/bad times ? ?
Not at all. This season has exceeded my expectations so I am happy. Also, I would rather us be in a secure financial position in the Championship than be in an insecure financial position in the Premiership, I think we should all think of that before demanding the board to spend millions on players. The key to us achieving anything in the future is to be financially stable first, then try and push on. It's pointless spending millions because if it backfires, we will be in a worse position than we currently are now. I just want to have my local team to follow home and away, whatever division we are in. I'm proud of where I'm from, proud to be a Cardiff City fan and proud that my local team got to a Carling cup final this season with limited resources. And the players that took us there weren't loans, they're ours. The foundations have been laid and we can build on this, improve on this and if we don't go up this season, we will be even stronger and even better next season. Keep the faith! :ayatollah:

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:26 am

The last 2 games were just like watching Dave Jones's team play last season ..... no ideas from midfield at times !

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:50 am

The present team looked knackered yesterday and especially in midfield which was non existant. No drive or pace.

Nothing to be lost now in changing the personnel. Give some players a break and bring in Blake, Keinan, Quinn, Ralls, Harris etc and why not call Parkin back from Scunthorpe where he has scored 4 in 5 games?

Staggering to think we are still in the pay off mix but to be blunt, I don't think for too much longer. Burnely were average to say most but their keeper had one tame shot to field all afternoon.

Have the players lost the desire or are they just knackered and the opposition knows how to deal with nur limited and narrow type of football? And why is the manager so stubborn is using his preferred players?

The loan window is still open - but doubt anyone will come now.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:48 am

Angry Man wrote:Get football people in charge ffs!!!! :evil:

Agree. Are the people above the manager doing a good job regarding player recruitment? If we had approx 5 mil to spend why did we fail to land all of malkys top targets when we were second in the league? Sorry, not good enough.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:07 am

Drop Miller,Gunnarsson..........solved !!

If we are gonna finish in some thing like 10th then we should be blooding
Harris,sullivan and wharton ready for next season so they know what its all about??

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:17 pm

Malky is completely out of his depth so the solution is to replace him asap with a more experience manager and try and persuade Malky to stay with the club as assistant manager to gain much needed managerial experience, i know this sounds radical and probably will be dismissed out of hand by Malky's loyalists,but we need to do something and it needs to be done now

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:41 pm

Many said we were rebuilding ? We're with a new manager, I still think rebuilding is an important aspect this season. Many said they were happy ? And they should still be, we've achieved so much this season it's ridiculous to write us over over a bad patch. Most teams go through this at some point in the season. Have some fans just forgotton the performances prior to these?
We've been to Wembley ? Amazing experience. Earned Cardiff City respect from many people who had just written us off that day.
We've been in the top 4 for 6 months of the season ? Couldn't imagine this for one second after watching them play Celtic pre-season.
Many said they would be happy with mid table ? So why so many moaning now ? I think a lot of fans got carried away with how well we've done. We've come back down to reality with a bump. I don't think this can be used as an excuse for the booing of players and fans leaving matches early. Yeah, that's going to help the situation... :roll:
Thousands are voting with their feet and staying away, why ? Fairweather fans? Although if you're not going to actually support the team while you're there what the point in you going?
Why are fans moaning ? Why ? As soon as we pick back up again the whining will stop.
Are you still happy ? Why ? Yes. We've come a long way from where we were the beginning of this season, we've had a few bad games, and a hell of a lot of excellent games. We're not at the bottom of the table and there's still a chance at promotion. We can't write the team off too soon.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:37 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Many said we were rebuilding ? We are, it will take more than one season, anyone with sense can see that
Many said give it time ? The ones with sense did yes
Many said sort the finances out first ? isn't that a good thing?
Many said they were happy ? The club seems more stable, just more crybaby fans
We've been in the top 4 for 6 months of the season? Yeah and many said we were punching above our weight.
Many said we don't need to strengthen ? Many said we do ? Many want it all too quickly than it can take, last season we threw as many loans as possible at the team and it did f**k all, our fans haven't learnt.
Malky said 3 times in October we need strengthening ? He said IF we wanted to get promoted this season we did, but maybe the club both on and off the pitch isn't ready for that yet
The board said there was millions available ? But maybe the right players wern't?
Many said they would be happy with mid table ? So why so many moaning now ? Because Cardiff have fickle and frankly shit fans (Swansea have better fans than us)
Thousands are voting with their feet and staying away, why ? See above
Why are fans moaning ? Why ? See above
Are you still happy ? Why ? Yeah because we have a young side with good players that need experience and a club that appears more stable than i've ever seen it.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:50 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Thats a hell of a lot of questions :lol:

Im pleased with the season, dissapointed with this dip in form but I dont believe its to do with no strenghening, more players would be nice but we arent utilising the players we have, players like Kiss, Conway should be used a lot more.

Even the first 11 today would have been a lot more efective is Gunnarrson pushed further forward and offered Miller support and/or Mason was upfront with him.
We have to many players on the fringes who are not good enough and on big wages, MM will have a lot of work to do in the summer but I have faith in him bringing in the right players.



Most weren't even questions....just statements with question marks after them :lol:

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:00 pm

All our rivals strenghend. We didnt. We were second, now 8th. Says it all.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:54 pm

jama wrote:All our rivals strenghend. We didnt. We were second, now 8th. Says it all.

But weve overacheived apparently :roll:

Jones was right about the malaysians. They want promotion but they want it on the cheap.

The same token Malky hasnt put together a very balanced squad.

Not enough creativity or pace.

As far as im concerned this seadon has gone now and there are no solutions with this squad.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:02 am

Whats the solution?

To realise that Malky is in his first season with us and took us to a cup final. How many championship managers do that on so called "limited resources"?

Also, half of these "Supporters" arent giving him time. He said we need at least 3 summer transfer windows before the club will have a strong enough squad to maintain premiership football. Why blow all the marbles on the first season and not reach the hurdle when we can be PATIENT like all other clubs that go for promotion? We dont have a devine right, besides, this season was a transitional period in which we needed new players, backroom etc.

Just give the man time. As the saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day"

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:18 am

So whats the solution? thats easy why dont you join the quiet revoultion and come west with tail firmly between your legs and support the swans,i mean all the pain you feel every weekend when ever you turn on the radio or tv and they are talking about us,must be a nightmare,so if you come and support us you can put all the disapointment and all the times you have been lied to and let down behind you...we could all be one big family and show you the art off singing in side the ground..
I will admit that this might seam a hard thing to do,and many might feel sick at the thought,but that will ease over time,so come on down and share in our good times.. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:56 pm

why are you so impatient you have a new manager who inherited half a squad ! why can't you give him time and a bit of trust he's got you a cup final and your in the play off fight , for christ sake fellas you have no divine right to win every game , give the bloke a chance
it took swansea 3 good managers to do it ,you had dj for too long , mm has had half a season

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:16 pm

waddle wrote:why are you so impatient you have a new manager who inherited half a squad ! why can't you give him time and a bit of trust he's got you a cup final and your in the play off fight , for christ sake fellas you have no divine right to win every game , give the bloke a chance
it took swansea 3 good managers to do it ,you had dj for too long , mm has had half a season

Its not about promotion for some of us its about the negative style of play

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:03 pm

well thers no problem as you have been playing this for years...

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:55 pm

polo wrote:
waddle wrote:why are you so impatient you have a new manager who inherited half a squad ! why can't you give him time and a bit of trust he's got you a cup final and your in the play off fight , for christ sake fellas you have no divine right to win every game , give the bloke a chance
it took swansea 3 good managers to do it ,you had dj for too long , mm has had half a season

Its not about promotion for some of us its about the negative style of play


oh right wouldn't know about that , but surely he deserves some time you started the season well , perhaps a couple of loans in and you'll be going again , perhaps he just hasn't got the depth he needs at the moment but i see where your coming from

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:39 pm

waddle wrote:
polo wrote:
waddle wrote:why are you so impatient you have a new manager who inherited half a squad ! why can't you give him time and a bit of trust he's got you a cup final and your in the play off fight , for christ sake fellas you have no divine right to win every game , give the bloke a chance
it took swansea 3 good managers to do it ,you had dj for too long , mm has had half a season

Its not about promotion for some of us its about the negative style of play


oh right wouldn't know about that , but surely he deserves some time you started the season well , perhaps a couple of loans in and you'll be going again , perhaps he just hasn't got the depth he needs at the moment but i see where your coming from

Yes he needs another year but he built this squad and its void of creativity, pace, and width.

Jurys out for me.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:40 pm

swansealad69 wrote:well thers no problem as you have been playing this for years...

We practically doubled your goals every season you tit

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:35 pm

Swansea got promotion on the cheap, far cheaper than what our squad for only this season cost ffs.

Very achievable.

Norwichgot it on the cheap.

How can you say Malaysians want it on the cheap when they brought and paid for Bellers and already paid 2.5m and CONFIRMED bids of 4m have been made according to the managers and Gus Poyet for 1.5m.

C'mon now, don't be foolish. Bringing Ramsey back must have had a cost, and for big wages lie Jay Chops Burke Bellers etc.

Idiots. Bellamy's wages probably added similar to Swansea's whole transfer fees.

Re: " SO WHATS THE SOLUTION ? "

Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:34 pm

waddle wrote:why are you so impatient you have a new manager who inherited half a squad ! why can't you give him time and a bit of trust he's got you a cup final and your in the play off fight , for christ sake fellas you have no divine right to win every game , give the bloke a chance
it took swansea 3 good managers to do it ,you had dj for too long , mm has had half a season


The best post I've read from you.