IRAN ARE REALLY STARTED TO MAKE ME NERVOUS!

israel will mash them.if they felt they needed to they would do it without u.s support.they will play the diplomatic game and the iranians will if they are not careful give the hawks on israels right the excuse they need.im sure most israelies would rather live in peace.i think there is oil in israel now so if that is true the u.s won,t leave them on their own.not one arab state has done right by the palastinians.arrafats black september group was named after the month the jordanians killed loads of them. the palastinians should have a better deal .id, like to see the countries directly affected like jordan ,israel,eygpt and the palastinians sit down and trash a deal out which gives all of those mentioned a secure enviroment to live and prosper in.i don,t think that roy keane lookalike in tehran gives two hoots about the palastinians

Quite frankly, if Israel did decide to perform a military strike or full-scale war on Iran, I quite favour Iran's chanecs of defending the attack.

Think about it, Iran has a much greater population than Israel, their radar and equipment etc , are being upgraded by the Russians and they have a larger army. Plus, Israel wouldn't be able to send all of its troops in cause that would make its country defenceless.

Israel NEED US/UK support.

israel won,t invade.it would be air strikes .you are 1oo% correct about stretching themselves .they don,t see iran as empire building though more of a threat to their survival. iraq had a massive army but they were poor.won,t come to that though as no israel leader would try to invade as such.also they have top u.s kit.wish they,d all sit down and talk mate tbh.

But I don't think the airstrikes would work, Russia have upgraded both Syria and Iran's radar. Plus, Iran's airforce are no doubt on red alert.

I agree, I wish they'd sit down. But, we all know what the Israeli government are like.

5.) Why worry bout their nukes? (If they build them), I'm almost certain we have interceptor missiles which can take them out.
Think you will find attempting to intercept any ballistic missle built in the past 30 years will be akin to trying to halt a bullet with your teeth .
The reason America gave up on their Star war project in the 80's was because it was not feasable cost too much money and and would be inafective.

5.) Why worry bout their nukes? (If they build them), I'm almost certain we have interceptor missiles which can take them out.
Think you will find attempting to intercept any ballistic missle built in the past 30 years will be akin to trying to halt a bullet with your teeth .
The reason America gave up on their Star war project in the 80's was because it was not feasable cost too much money and and would be inafective.

True. But technology is always advancing.

Iran is the biggest threat to any so called piece we have. They have a lunatic in charge and given a chance would be as bad as Hitler. There Nuclear capabilities need to be destroyed.

Iran is the biggest threat to any so called piece we have. They have a lunatic in charge and given a chance would be as bad as Hitler. There Nuclear capabilities need to be destroyed.

Are they really the biggest threat to "peace"?

Take the terrorist organisations out of the equation (the Talitubbies, Al Qaeda, Provisional IRA bla bla bla), then lets review the other threats to "peace".

The two biggest threats to "peace" are both the american and israeli governments. Yes, Imawankerjihad is a lunatic and a bit unorthodox, but has he started illegal wars? Has he created a massive empire? Has he killed countless of innocent lives? Has he plundered a 3rd world country for it natural resources? Not as far as I'm aware.

Who's to say they won't start a war if they got a nuclear weapon or dirty bomb.
IF your brainwashed enough then you will do what you think is right.

I dont think the Americans expected japanese woman and children to throw themselves off cliffs when they were fighting off japan just because these people had been told the Americans would butcher them.

Just as they didn't expect kamikaze pilots to hit there ships.
If you believe something then anynthing in this world is possible.

Iran may now have the opportunity to do something that some Iranians and Muslim fundamentalists have been wanting to do and that is destroy Israel. With any luck they both push the button the same time.

There is some serious problems in Europe and unfortunately our country where people believe something which is completely wrong, I'm worried because I want my children and eventually grandchildren to grow up without any worry of what may happen on our island. Our government has got to pull it's finger out and start treating people coming here like new Zealand and Australia because otherwise we may get into such a state we decent people may not be able to stand up for ourselves.
And at the moment we got a hell of a Long way to go, ask anyone from Blackburn, burnley or Bradford. People should not be segregated like northern island. In northern England there are areas the size of Ely where just Muslims live, surely that can't be good. All you need is one person to turn many.. Look at hitler he had Germans believing everything he said, Goering all of them people can brainwash other people if it is pumped into you. As I said you only need 1.

I just hope I win the euro millions roll over then I can f**k off and live in The Bahamas

f**k me, there are some f*cking tards on this thread.

The US and Isreal being the biggest threats to world peace?

What total leftest bullshit.

Isreal has already handed Iran it's ass before and would do it again.

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Just leave it to the isrealis I'm sure we got enough to deal with...
Besides I'm sure the yanks fancy there chances

About time they fought for themselves and did their own dirty work against an opposition that can finally test them, at least then they might stop killing children in the streets of Palestine.

Yeah one day those Palestinians are gonna start doing what Paddy did to the Brits

f**k me, there are some f*cking tards on this thread.

The US and Isreal being the biggest threats to world peace?

What total leftest bullshit.
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Isreal has already handed Iran it's ass before and would do it again.

Is this another one of MG's profiles?

I don't know if you've noticed, but America have started illegal wars, bullying other countries around and have now affectively started a cold war with China.

As for the Israeli government? Murdered plenty of Palestinians, occupying Palestine and flattened Lebonnon.

Yes I'm a "Lefty". Yes Iran MIGHT be producing WMD's and if thats the case then fine, take out their facilities.

But, the US gov start many wars and drag us and the french into them.

Just leave it to the isrealis I'm sure we got enough to deal with...
Besides I'm sure the yanks fancy there chances

About time they fought for themselves and did their own dirty work against an opposition that can finally test them, at least then they might stop killing children in the streets of Palestine.

Agree.Israel has been behaving like a rogue state for years.It turns my stomach to see Netanyahu getting fawned over in the US.

I hate radical Islam and it needs to be eradicated but getting into bed with Israel is a mistake.A mistake that we could all pay a very high price for.

I will never ever support Israel.

Completely understandable given your family background. It always staggers me that the Jewish people who have been treated like shit for centuries by all and sundry behave like tyrants when they have their own state.

Alfie, thats my main point, I use to watch films about what Hitler did to the Jews and I honestly felt for them, but that was 1940's, now its 2012 and for the last 30 years the Jews now treat the Palestinians in a shocking/terrible way, they torture the Palestinians,bulldoze their houses,take their land,lock them up without a trial, turn their water and electricity off and control the Palestinians as if they owned them, yet no one does anything about it. I wont feel sorry for Israel if Iran attacked them, I promise you that.

they say Hitler based his revolution on premonition and only wanted to prevent what is now happening, if no people had been killed the world would be alot scarier

Then if you are lefty you would hate Iran. How many people did hang last year simply for being gay? I've lost count.

Due to the Iraq war the Yanks are the biggest threat to world pearce? Even though they give much more aid then any other country?

Cold war with China? What a f*cking idiot. Go and check how much trade they do. You will find that didn't happen in the real cold war......

The people of Palestine are angels? They have not planted bombs? Voted in terrorists to run Palestine? Isreal is just picking on then for no reason....

It's worth noting that the middle east didn't give a f**k about the people of Palestine - They are not even from that part of the world.

It's where they ended up after being treated like shite by everyone else in the middle east.

Iraq wanted to let in UN inspectors.

Iran won't.

You keep to your lefty point of view, it's not your fault you can't see the bigger picture.

If adolf could have foreseen whats happening now then he invaded the wrong civilisation. It won't be long before north Africa gets into a bad state with all that's happened there, the whole mid east and parts of Asia and Indonesia and the phillipines are starting to become even more extreme, hopefully we sort ourselves out here and leave the rest of the world to get on with it and not get drawn into anything which kills British lives.

I feel bad that 6 soldiers (5 of them early 20's) killed somewhere we didnt need to be. Just pull them out and leave the yanks to deal with it.

And f*cking lol at comparing what the Nazi Germany did to the Jews to what is happening to what is happening today in Palestine.

Then if you are lefty you would hate Iran. How many people did hang last year simply for being gay? I've lost count.

Due to the Iraq war the Yanks are the biggest threat to world pearce? Even though they give much more aid then any other country?

Cold war with China? What a f*cking idiot. Go and check how much trade they do. You will find that didn't happen in the real cold war......

The people of Palestine are angels? They have not planted bombs? Voted in terrorists to run Palestine? Isreal is just picking on then for no reason....

It's worth noting that the middle east didn't give a f**k about the people of Palestine - They are not even from that part of the world.

It's where they ended up after being treated like shite by everyone else in the middle east.

Iraq wanted to let in UN inspectors.

Iran won't.

You keep to your lefty point of view, it's not your fault you can't see the bigger picture.

Just cause I'm a lefty it doesnt mean I hate Iran.

You're a muppet. Not just the Iraq war you plonker, have you noticed all the bases they have world wide? Surrounding certain countries?

Yes, they may be trading with China, but have you seen the major military build up (its due to get bigger) in the Asia-Pacific region? The US government wants to be the top dogs, world police and they see China as a threat. Why wouldn;t they? The Chinese economy is booming and growing rapidly, they're modernizing their entire armed forces and have plenty of nukes. So why would you antaganize them with a major military build up in the Asia-Pacific region? Selling arms and new jets to Taiwan?

Palestine - Voted in terrorists? As far as I'm aware there was a civil war (Hamas and the other party whoms name deceives me) for control of the country. Yes, they've attacked Israel but the Israeli government are occupying their land by building Jewish settlements on there.

Iran HAVE let in UN inspectors (admittidly not to Parchin - the military base) and they are going to sit down with the "6 global powers" for diplomatic talks. Don't get me wrong, it may sound like I'm defending them but I'm not. I've heard about how they've stoned women and hung gay people, that infuriates me. Adhjimihad (spelling) is a lunatic and should concede power to opposition (so should Assad) but that won't happen.

Yes, America are the leading charitable and aid contributors but perhaps its cause they have the biggest economy in the world? Don't know if you've noticed but theres problems in the EU right now.

And f*cking lol at comparing what the Nazi Germany did to the Jews to what is happening to what is happening today in Palestine.

Yea, I was furious when Benny (Israeli PM) compared to what is happening today to the Jewish holocaust. (regarding Iran)

Let the Chinese get on with it with regard to america, at least they don't have a religion to f**k around with

No, he said he would prevent from happening again.

It's a cold war and yet they are trading? LOL

They did and continue to attack Isreal. Christ, we putting people in prison without trial and had a shoot to kill policy in NI.

Both Palestine and Isreal have to vote in moderates before things will improve, but don't make out it's one sided.

You do know the melt down started in the US? They have also been hit pretty hard......

But how can any sane person can say that Isreal and the US are the biggest threat to world peace is just plain f*cking dumb.

Pakistan is on the brink of being taken over by extremists. Pakistan would be fucked without US aid. Pakistan has nukes.

You have already pointed out that the leader of Iran is a loon.

But the US and Isreal are the biggest threats to world peace? Really?

The biggest threat are Muslim extremists (and the go compare ads)
Every body with half a brain can see that.

Sort them out for f**k sake then perhaps we can live a little easier in years to come.

No, he said he would prevent from happening again.

It's a cold war and yet they are trading? LOL

They did and continue to attack Isreal. Christ, we putting people in prison without trial and had a shoot to kill policy in NI.

Both Palestine and Isreal have to vote in moderates before things will improve, but don't make out it's one sided.

You do know the melt down started in the US? They have also been hit pretty hard......

But how can any sane person can say that Isreal and the US are the biggest threat to world peace is just plain f*cking dumb.

Pakistan is on the brink of being taken over by extremists. Pakistan would be fucked without US aid. Pakistan has nukes.

You have already pointed out that the leader of Iran is a loon.

But the US and Isreal are the biggest threats to world peace? Really?

Well, lets be honest, the US gov does have a "aggressive" way with their foreign policy. Yes it may work but it does nothing but create more enemies for themselves.

There's one key point, which I'm suprised both of us haven't brought up yet, and thats oil.

C'mon mate, you've got to agree, where ever the oil is the US are involved.


One question, where do you stand on the Falklands?

Iran is the biggest threat to any so called piece we have. They have a lunatic in charge and given a chance would be as bad as Hitler. There Nuclear capabilities need to be destroyed.

Are they really the biggest threat to "peace"?

Take the terrorist organisations out of the equation (the Talitubbies, Al Qaeda, Provisional IRA bla bla bla), then lets review the other threats to "peace".

The two biggest threats to "peace" are both the american and israeli governments. Yes, Imawankerjihad is a lunatic and a bit unorthodox, but has he started illegal wars? Has he created a massive empire? Has he killed countless of innocent lives? Has he plundered a 3rd world country for it natural resources? Not as far as I'm aware.

iran are fighting proxy wars.they tool up amal,hizballah etc.they,ve been poking israel for years.personally im of the mind that we shouldn,t be in other peoples countries unless they want us to be so im far from a right wing imperialist but where israel is concerned it is slightly bigger than wales with its neighbours vowing to wipe it of the face of the earth.very hard to make peace with people who want to kill you.whatever happens and whatever our views the jews of israel will decide what action they will take.after the holocaust no israelie is going to allow a non jew the final say on their future.that is the mindset of an israelie

I'm not pro US.

Oil and democracy were the reasons behind the Iraq.

Democracy? What? Yes, the US have used democracy as a weapon against the rest of the middle east.

I don't really have a opinion as I don't believe we will go to war over the Falklands again and it's simply not on the same scale as Iran and Pakistan.

My only opinion is that it's up to the people who live there.

I'm not pro US.

Oil and democracy were the reasons behind the Iraq.

Democracy? What? Yes, the US have used democracy as a weapon against the rest of the middle east.

I don't really have a opinion as I don't believe we will go to war over the Falklands again and it's simply not on the same scale as Iran and Pakistan.

My only opinion is that it's up to the people who live there.

Well democracy is certaintly working in the Middle East isn't it?

I agree regarding the Falklands and quite frankly, Mrs. Fernandez (Argentine President) is only using the Falklands as an re-election bid, I'm aware there is an election to take place soon? Also it's a way to distract its people from their dire economy.

21-12-2012 - f**k u Israel

Yes, it has done some of the dirty work for the Yanks.

Unless you don't believe democracy in Iraq has had any impact on the 'Arab Spring'.

Just on a side note, have a look at what we did in NI before you judge Israel.

* Bloody Sunday.

* Shoot to kill policy with the SAS.

* Collusion with loyalists - We gave loyalists information to help kill solicitor Pat Finucane

* Internment

The rule of law goes out of the window when you are dealing with a terrorist threat.

Then if you are lefty you would hate Iran. How many people did hang last year simply for being gay? I've lost count.

Due to the Iraq war the Yanks are the biggest threat to world pearce? Even though they give much more aid then any other country?

Cold war with China? What a f*cking idiot. Go and check how much trade they do. You will find that didn't happen in the real cold war......

The people of Palestine are angels? They have not planted bombs? Voted in terrorists to run Palestine? Isreal is just picking on then for no reason....

It's worth noting that the middle east didn't give a f**k about the people of Palestine - They are not even from that part of the world.

It's where they ended up after being treated like shite by everyone else in the middle east.

Iraq wanted to let in UN inspectors.

Iran won't.

You keep to your lefty point of view, it's not your fault you can't see the bigger picture.

The Palestinians just want their country and dont you think they have a right to control their own country ?
So are you saying Israel is not guilty of anything towards the Palestinians ?
What have the Palestinians got to fight with ? compared to the backing the Americans give Israel ?

Maybe we should give Nothern Ireland back then?

I've already said Israel has taken a hard line approach towards Palistine.

Isreal has put all Palestinians in the same basket, but don't make out that there is not a large faction within Palistine that would slaughter as many Jews as it could if it had the chance.

Maybe we should give Nothern Ireland back then?

I've already said Israel has taken a hard line approach towards Palistine.

Isreal has put all Palestinians in the same basket, but don't make out that there is not a large faction within Palistine that would slaughter as many Jews as it could if it had the chance.

I am not making out they would not want to do this, but could you blame them ? They have been treated like prisoners in their own country for 60 plus years.

I don't blame any side.

I understand why it happens.

This happened a few hours ago:

Israeli air strikes on Gaza have killed at least 10 Palestinians including a senior Palestinian militant leader.

Zohair al-Qaisi, secretary general of the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), was attacked because he was planning an attack, the Israelis said.

Another militant was killed with him. The Islamist Hamas movement which runs Gaza said at least eight more died in later Israeli air strikes.

The Israeli military said dozens of rockets were fired into Israel.

A spokeswoman said the rocket attacks had injured at least four people, one seriously. Some of the rockets had been intercepted by Israel's "Iron Dome" anti-missile system, she added.

The rockets were apparently fired in retaliation for the killing of the PRC leaders.

Correspondents say it is one of the worst outbreaks of violence along the Gaza border for several months.

Islamic Jihad said the dead men were part of its military organisation.

Continue reading the main story
Analysis

Kevin Connolly

BBC Middle East correspondent

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There is nothing new in Israel's use of its air power to target a Palestinian commander in Gaza.

Zohair al-Qaisi only took over as head of the Popular Resistance Committees when his predecessor in the role died in the same manner last August. And he had already survived an unexplained explosion at his family home in Gaza earlier this year in which at least one person died.

This latest air strike may have been a direct response to the firing of two mortar shells from Gaza into Israel a few hours earlier.

But Israel blames Zohair al-Qaisi for a much larger and more significant assault last summer, a wave of gun and bomb attacks in a single day near the country's southern border with Egypt which left eight Israelis dead.

Ten attackers and five Egyptian soldiers were killed.

The incident was regarded in Israel as an unnerving breach of security, hence the determination to punish those held responsible by the Israeli authorities.

Medical sources say another man was seriously injured in the attack on the car carrying Mr Qaisi, near Gaza City.

Witnesses say Israeli drones were heard in the area shortly before the car burst into flames, the Associated Press reports.

The first air strike came a few hours after two mortar shells fired from Gaza landed in Israel without causing injury.

The PRC, which represents a number of armed factions aligned with Hamas, has carried out several rocket and grenade attacks against Israel. It also sometimes operates independently of Hamas.

An Israeli military spokesman said Mr Qaisi was behind a series of gun and bomb attacks near Israel's border with Egypt last year, in which eight Israelis were killed. Ten of the attackers and five Egyptian soldiers also died.

The spokesman warned Israelis living within range of rockets fired from Gaza to stay indoors overnight.

A spokesman for the PRC in Gaza vowed to take revenge on Israel for the attack.

"All options are open before the fighters to respond to this despicable crime. The assassination of our chief will not end our resistance," Abu Attiya, a spokesman for the PRC group told Reuters.

The BBC's Middle East correspondent Kevin Connolly says the PRC is behind many of the mortar and rocket attacks which continue to be launched against Israeli towns from inside Gaza.

The former head of the PRC, Kamal al-Nairab, and its military chief were killed in a similar Israeli attack last year.