" LONG TERM YES - SHORT TERM NO "

Id also drop Kev and bring in Quinny.

Hopefully we'll stick with malky

In all fairness glammy, that's not such a bad idea - Quinny was great for us last season, and Kevs not doing too well. There has to be a reason why so many Scottish right backs are ahead of Kev in the national team pecking order.

Ooops sorry, i thought he said kenny hense the reaction

That is a idea, although when Darcy has come on, he's done a good job

Id also drop Kev and bring in Quinny.

Hopefully we'll stick with malky

In all fairness glammy, that's not such a bad idea - Quinny was great for us last season, and Kevs not doing too well. There has to be a reason why so many Scottish right backs are ahead of Kev in the national team pecking order.

Ooops sorry, i thought he said kenny hense the reaction

That is a idea, although when Darcy has come on, he's done a good job

Very true mate. We have options at right back, shame we don't seem to utilise them.

I prefer Quinn over darcy.

If we play Quinn I think we have to play both lawrence and Conway as Quinn won't give us that energy and width kev does.

Haris Vuckic has to be extended in my opinion!
Its very tough for him to prove hiself in a month! Ramsey done differently though!
It shows MM is hear of the long run with the young players though!

Haris Vuckic is not a striker, if anything he is Whitts stand in.

Play our kids or squad members rather than someone elses, you never know they may be good. How many Liam Lawrences are out there, ready made, available top class championship players ?

Talking about bringing people in which should have been done months ago.The most die hard city fans could see this back then in truth but others slated people for saying it It will be nobody elses fault but are own when we hear MM on the worlds smallest violin come may when he does interviews which will consist of something like this "We needed new players whats why we fell out of the playoffs" NINE games of crap league football we have had and If i have to watch another dire game of fecking rudy and miller i think i will crack up ,sitting on are 18 yard line these days while smashing the ball up to the other teams center halfs, even are closing down the other team has gone now as the players are either tired or just cba due to nobody else to step in equal or better. If i can see it everyone can see it.WTF is going on MM

Talking about bringing people in which should have been done months ago.The most die hard city fans could see this back then in truth but others slated people for saying it It will be nobody elses fault but are own when we hear MM on the worlds smallest violin come may when he does interviews which will consist of something like this "We needed new players whats why we fell out of the playoffs" NINE games of crap league football we have had and If i have to watch another dire game of fecking rudy and miller i think i will crack up ,sitting on are 18 yard line these days while smashing the ball up to the other teams center halfs, even are closing down the other team has gone now as the players are either tired or just cba due to nobody else to step in equal or better. If i can see it everyone can see it.WTF is going on MM

I have to agree with 77, players should of been brought in months ago, if we were going to have a chance of going up. We were right up there and a few quality players and it would of been still us and Westham up there.

Talking about bringing people in which should have been done months ago.The most die hard city fans could see this back then in truth but others slated people for saying it It will be nobody elses fault but are own when we hear MM on the worlds smallest violin come may when he does interviews which will consist of something like this "We needed new players whats why we fell out of the playoffs" NINE games of crap league football we have had and If i have to watch another dire game of fecking rudy and miller i think i will crack up ,sitting on are 18 yard line these days while smashing the ball up to the other teams center halfs, even are closing down the other team has gone now as the players are either tired or just cba due to nobody else to step in equal or better. If i can see it everyone can see it.WTF is going on MM

I have to agree with 77, players should of been brought in months ago, if we were going to have a chance of going up. We were right up there and a few quality players and it would of been still us and Westham up there.

even doncaster got a striker in today

Talking about bringing people in which should have been done months ago.The most die hard city fans could see this back then in truth but others slated people for saying it It will be nobody elses fault but are own when we hear MM on the worlds smallest violin come may when he does interviews which will consist of something like this "We needed new players whats why we fell out of the playoffs" NINE games of crap league football we have had and If i have to watch another dire game of fecking rudy and miller i think i will crack up ,sitting on are 18 yard line these days while smashing the ball up to the other teams center halfs, even are closing down the other team has gone now as the players are either tired or just cba due to nobody else to step in equal or better. If i can see it everyone can see it.WTF is going on MM

I have to agree with 77, players should of been brought in months ago, if we were going to have a chance of going up. We were right up there and a few quality players and it would of been still us and Westham up there.

even doncaster got a striker in today

Polo,Something does not add up. Hmm

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I prefer Quinn over darcy.

If we play Quinn I think we have to play both lawrence and Conway as Quinn won't give us that energy and width kev does.

my preference would be darcy over quinn, sorry, the last two games darcy played he was mom. ive only ever seen quinn play two decent games for us.. he hasnt played all season and i would hope that we wouldnt throw him in at this stage of the season.

however kev def needs to be dropped for a game or 2.

one thing im hoping for though is if lawrence is fit for weds game, put him out right, and get cowie in the middle behind striker, for watford he was awesome there and got over 15 assists for danny graham in that position. conway on left, lawrence right, with gunnarsson, whitts then cowie in the middle. it is 4-5-1 i know , however with conway and lawrence this is attacking enough and away from home i think would suit.

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

If we had 5 mil to burn in deadline day you would think wed have a striker in by now.

my belief that only now rudy is injured (thank f**k!) then malky and or the board must react.

I prefer Quinn over darcy.

If we play Quinn I think we have to play both lawrence and Conway as Quinn won't give us that energy and width kev does.

my preference would be darcy over quinn, sorry, the last two games darcy played he was mom. ive only ever seen quinn play two decent games for us.. he hasnt played all season and i would hope that we wouldnt throw him in at this stage of the season.

however kev def needs to be dropped for a game or 2.

one thing im hoping for though is if lawrence is fit for weds game, put him out right, and get cowie in the middle behind striker, for watford he was awesome there and got over 15 assists for danny graham in that position. conway on left, lawrence right, with gunnarsson, whitts then cowie in the middle. it is 4-5-1 i know , however with conway and lawrence this is attacking enough and away from home i think would suit.

I just dont see Blake as a RB, simply don't think he is good enough personally.
Bright attack with side players and outlet best defensive RB is certainly Kev so I wouldn't change.

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

If we had 5 mil to burn in deadline day you would think wed have a striker in by now.

my belief that only now rudy is injured (thank f**k!) then malky and or the board must react.

I still think it's just the case that Noone and Sordell had potential for their values to increase in future or in Noone's case stay pretty consistent so spending £5million would have been an investment.

However putting that five million purely into loans is dead money at the end of the season and we'll all expect signings at the end of the season if we don't go up even if we went out and brought Tevez in for the next few moths.

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

If we had 5 mil to burn in deadline day you would think wed have a striker in by now.

my belief that only now rudy is injured (thank f**k!) then malky and or the board must react.

I still think it's just the case that Noone and Sordell had potential for their values to increase in future or in Noone's case stay pretty consistent so spending £5million would have been an investment.

However putting that five million purely into loans is dead money at the end of the season and we'll all expect signings at the end of the season if we don't go up even if we went out and brought Tevez in for the next few moths.

Spot on.
Loans are dead money, it's what they complained about under DJ.

Polo
What would you do if you was in charge of Cardiff city right now? a serious question. Who would you bring in? and what tactics and formations would you employ?

Its not about what I would do now its what I would have done in January and kicked on then.

Now at this present moment I would release Rudy fom his contract with immediate effect.

secondly the players we have at our disposal we have to go back to 451.

Bring Mcphail or Kiss in to sit with Whitts and Aron further forward. Whitts is wasted playing centre half.

Id also drop Kev and bring in Quinny.

Earnie on the bench.

My mate Normsie as my no.2.

If we don't make the play offs this season, it is because we didn't strengthen in the January transfer window in my opinion.

But the January window is in the past now so let's move on. I think we need to get a striker in on loan to make the play offs as Miller is not scoring at the momenet and Rudy has a hamstring problem.

I would also extend Vuckic's loan to the end of the season as he looks decent and we need all the players we can get!

Every season around January you see 11 or 12 teams who have a good chance of promotion. The ones that seem to get promotion are the teams that get financial backing in that window. Promotion can depend on 1 quality signing for some teams. I honestly believe if Rambo's loan had got extended to the end of the season last year, we would of definitely got automatic promotion. On such margins are promotions achieved.

Malky is the future of this club!

We are all aware of Malky's dossiers on bringing in new players. First a player is scouted, then a dossier is prepared by the team of 4 in the recruitment process, one will check out the players attitude and lifestyle, another will check on previous moves and how the player has performed throughout his career, creating a paper trail that is transparent to the board of directors. If the potential signing fails to pass on any of these checks then he will not be signed, period. I have been a fan of this philosophy and recruitment process as I believe it does help bring stability to the squad and I have defended it throughout the previous loan window and the recent transfer window.

I believe the recruitment process is right for the long term permanent signings ie. those who commit to 3 and 4 year deals but in the short term and when there is only 8 weeks left of the regular season I believe this process is restricting us in bringing players in.

This team needs help and it needs it now, there is fatigue in the majority of the players that are used week in week out. Malky Mackay is not using the fringe players (they are more like forgotten players now), the likes of Earnshaw, Blake, Quinn, Keinan, etc.

If we are not going to use these players to freshen the squad up then in my opinion we must bring in one or two to help us get to where we need to be, the play-offs or better.

As a short term fix I can't see the problem, if you bring in a striker of winger who you believe will strengthen the squad but he does not match all the criteria set out in the dossier are we giving ourselves the best chance of success?

We owe it to the players who have got this far to give them the best chance of success and the possibility of playing Premier League football next season.

I don't wish to go all out loaning like last season but at least find the right mix of short term fix to aid the long term gain.

Carl - have you read "Moneyball". A recent post on here quoted an article about Malky saying it is one of the books on his office shelf. Although it is about baseball, it gives an insight into a new approach to scouting and signing players. This is clearly the way that Malky is thinking, for the medium to long term. The book is a cracking good read in its own right, although it helps if you understand US baseball (not Cardiff baseball!)

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If we don't make the play offs this season, it is because we didn't strengthen in the January transfer window in my opinion.

But the January window is in the past now so let's move on. I think we need to get a striker in on loan to make the play offs as Miller is not scoring at the momenet and Rudy has a hamstring problem.

I would also extend Vuckic's loan to the end of the season as he looks decent and we need all the players we can get!

Every season around January you see 11 or 12 teams who have a good chance of promotion. The ones that seem to get promotion are the teams that get financial backing in that window. Promotion can depend on 1 quality signing for some teams. I honestly believe if Rambo's loan had got extended to the end of the season last year, we would of definitely got automatic promotion. On such margins are promotions achieved.

Malky is the future of this club!

Just to confirm, are you saying that MM didn't have the financial backing during January..?

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

Imho i don't think we got a pot to pee in. Its a case of one in, one out, & all the stuff about late bids last January was just cattle manure steam on a cold day.

we were all worried about 70m of debt last week - are we all ok with adding to that now?

Vuckic IMO played extremely well yesterday, chased, ran at defenders, pressured - done pretty much all he could effort wise. Now the cup is out way, Vuckic will hopefully get a good run of games together now. I'd like to see him shoot more often too. He has the quality, we've seen it and we've been told by Newcastle fans. (some of them wanted him to stay!!) if he gets to stay another month, that would be great!

I thought he played well too. People need to give the boy a chance.

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

If we had 5 mil to burn in deadline day you would think wed have a striker in by now.

my belief that only now rudy is injured (thank f**k!) then malky and or the board must react.

I still think it's just the case that Noone and Sordell had potential for their values to increase in future or in Noone's case stay pretty consistent so spending £5million would have been an investment.

However putting that five million purely into loans is dead money at the end of the season and we'll all expect signings at the end of the season if we don't go up even if we went out and brought Tevez in for the next few moths.

Spot on.
Loans are dead money, it's what they complained about under DJ.

2blue you say loans are dead money but what else can we do now we missed all the other windows to get better or equal players in so whats the solution ????, if thats the case then what was the point in us being 3rd with four points on 4th place and a point below 2nd place just to slip down the league more and more knowing what was comming. Honest a god i doubt we will even see 3rd next year

Malky too stubborn or the purse strings not as loose as reported?

I will take the second one, just my strong/strong opinion/belief.

TWO more realists at last

Where the hell did I say use 5 million on loans?

If you got 3 loans in at a combined 50k a week over the last 10 weeks of the season thats only
500k.

Position we were in thats peanuts to what could have been acheived.

Attendances would be higher if we were seen to have a real go paying back some of rhat money.

In my posts the day after the window closed I said there was no way we had that money and I was shot down. It was all a smoke screen to try and show to the fans we were trying to make big money signings and the majority swallowed it.

In my posts the day after the window closed I said there was no way we had that money and I was shot down. It was all a smoke screen to try and show to the fans we were trying to make big money signings and the majority swallowed it.

I was, and still am, of the same opinion. That's not calling anyone a liar, its understanding how a football club is run....

On paper our strike force of Gestade (when fit), Earnshaw, Miller, Parkin (on loan), Jarvis (on loan) and Mason is as average as any team in this division.

It is a bit of a miracle City are still in with a shout of top 6 when you also take into account the defensive inability to keep clean sheets.

For me unless City do bring in a striker or ideally 2 before the window shuts, the season will just meander along until it ends.

I can't believe how obvious it has been that the team needed freshening up. What's more frustrating is that we have the players within the squad who have performed at this level in the past.

Quinn, Blake, Keinan and Earnshaw have all done it at this level and could be used to make things a little fresher.