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Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:55 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:If what Malky says proves to be not true, then it will come back to haunt him, personally I find it astonshing that we failed to get any off the targets highlighted in the jan transfer window, but hey, what do I know. I really am not sure what to think, as on the one hand, if Malky has done all the homework that he says he does on players, and we bid on them with decent money, and still did not get them, with all the time we put in to it, then something doesn't quite add up.

I can only conclude that Malky is covering for the board, as I dont believe we made the bids that have been reported in the press, which is a dangerous game to play, as when the shit hits the fan, then the manager takes the fall, I hope this doesn't happen to Malky, as I do believe that Malky has what it takes to be a fine manager, with us or with someone else further on in his career.



No matter what the board do our fans won't trust them. i know for a fact those bids were made. I know for a fact Sordell was actually on his way down to cardiff. Poyet himself even said that Cardiff had bid for Noone (and it was accepted but their chairman changed his mind). Holloway acknowledged we bid for Phillips (even though he thought he's as good as Rooney)
Thankfullly this messageboard is only a small representation of our fans cos all there seems to be on here is negativity towards the people who keep our club alive

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:06 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:If what Malky says proves to be not true, then it will come back to haunt him, personally I find it astonshing that we failed to get any off the targets highlighted in the jan transfer window, but hey, what do I know. I really am not sure what to think, as on the one hand, if Malky has done all the homework that he says he does on players, and we bid on them with decent money, and still did not get them, with all the time we put in to it, then something doesn't quite add up.

I can only conclude that Malky is covering for the board, as I dont believe we made the bids that have been reported in the press, which is a dangerous game to play, as when the shit hits the fan, then the manager takes the fall, I hope this doesn't happen to Malky, as I do believe that Malky has what it takes to be a fine manager, with us or with someone else further on in his career.


Very very interesting post.
I do believe bids were made, but were they made knowing they were well under value ?

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:48 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:If what Malky says proves to be not true, then it will come back to haunt him, personally I find it astonshing that we failed to get any off the targets highlighted in the jan transfer window, but hey, what do I know. I really am not sure what to think, as on the one hand, if Malky has done all the homework that he says he does on players, and we bid on them with decent money, and still did not get them, with all the time we put in to it, then something doesn't quite add up.
I can only conclude that Malky is covering for the board, as I dont believe we made the bids that have been reported in the press, which is a dangerous game to play, as when the shit hits the fan, then the manager takes the fall, I hope this doesn't happen to Malky, as I do believe that Malky has what it takes to be a fine manager, with us or with someone else further on in his career.


Very very interesting post.
I do believe bids were made, but were they made knowing they were well under value ?



Annis i dont get why you would say this. even carls update said that Brighton accepted a bid but then the chairman came home and stopped the deal going through! My understanding is that he was in australia but wouldn't answer the phone to finalise the deal. in hindsight he was obviously playing us (and if there is any criticism of the club its that they should have forgot about noone earlier)
A bid for sordell was also accepted and he was on his way here! If £3 million doesnt highlight the malaysians ambition i dont know what will.
Why cant we accept that we had money but just were unlucky not to get our targets and move on? Why has there always gotta be a conspiracy?

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:11 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:If what Malky says proves to be not true, then it will come back to haunt him, personally I find it astonshing that we failed to get any off the targets highlighted in the jan transfer window, but hey, what do I know. I really am not sure what to think, as on the one hand, if Malky has done all the homework that he says he does on players, and we bid on them with decent money, and still did not get them, with all the time we put in to it, then something doesn't quite add up.

I can only conclude that Malky is covering for the board, as I dont believe we made the bids that have been reported in the press, which is a dangerous game to play, as when the shit hits the fan, then the manager takes the fall, I hope this doesn't happen to Malky, as I do believe that Malky has what it takes to be a fine manager, with us or with someone else further on in his career.


Very very interesting post.
I do believe bids were made, but were they made knowing they were well under value ?


We had 4.5m worth of offers accepted for Noone and Sordell so that can't be right.
Just one of those things, tried but failed.

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:18 am

Leytonstoneblue wrote:If what Malky says proves to be not true, then it will come back to haunt him, personally I find it astonshing that we failed to get any off the targets highlighted in the jan transfer window, but hey, what do I know. I really am not sure what to think, as on the one hand, if Malky has done all the homework that he says he does on players, and we bid on them with decent money, and still did not get them, with all the time we put in to it, then something doesn't quite add up.

I can only conclude that Malky is covering for the board, as I dont believe we made the bids that have been reported in the press, which is a dangerous game to play, as when the shit hits the fan, then the manager takes the fall, I hope this doesn't happen to Malky, as I do believe that Malky has what it takes to be a fine manager, with us or with someone else further on in his career.


If you honestly think that Malky is the type of man that would do that you are off your head mate.

We DID bid for players which were knocked back for whatever reason. Or perhaps Poyet, Holloway and the Brighton chairman are all in on the ruse to hoodwink Cardiff City fans?

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:28 am

Both brighton and Watford confirmed them tho. Even sordell said he was on his way until Bolton bid sooooo????

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:15 pm

There's so much lack of understanding in this thread it's difficult to believe.

Annis is halfway there.

2Blue is spot on, cos he seems to be a bright fella and patient too.

That's what we all have to be.

Annis - you say the lack of signings will come back to haunt us - when? at the end of the season when we don't get promoted? Big woop. What chance did we ever have of going up anyway? Marvin Sordell for £3m would not have taken us up imo.

Or perhaps it'll come back to haunt us like signing Alan Lee for £900k, Thorney for over a million etc while in a division that has never sustained such big-money signings? That type of coming back to haunt us, with millions of pounds worth of debt?

You see my point - while we can't afford to go out and spend big dollar on players, we won't. That's sensible. It's that simple.

Too many on here are taking a "FIFA" attitude to player signings - "OOH, he's available, I'll buy him no matter how much it costs and see if he's any good for my team LOL" - that's not how the real world works lads. Be intelligent.

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:39 pm

My dear nobby if you mean when using the term philosophy that Malky has to be a 100% certain that he is recruiting the right player for the club,my answer would have to be no,simply because when Managers are dealing in the transfer market its not possible for them to be 100% certain as to whether the player involved would fit in to his way of doing things,if Managers had to be so certain of their actions there would be no transfers ever done....i think even Malkys most ardent fans have come to the conclusion that he is a very causesh Manager on and off the pitch and thats fine as long as caution doesn't turn into dithering

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:13 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:If what Malky says proves to be not true, then it will come back to haunt him, personally I find it astonshing that we failed to get any off the targets highlighted in the jan transfer window, but hey, what do I know. I really am not sure what to think, as on the one hand, if Malky has done all the homework that he says he does on players, and we bid on them with decent money, and still did not get them, with all the time we put in to it, then something doesn't quite add up.
I can only conclude that Malky is covering for the board, as I dont believe we made the bids that have been reported in the press, which is a dangerous game to play, as when the shit hits the fan, then the manager takes the fall, I hope this doesn't happen to Malky, as I do believe that Malky has what it takes to be a fine manager, with us or with someone else further on in his career.


Very very interesting post.
I do believe bids were made, but were they made knowing they were well under value ?



Annis i dont get why you would say this. even carls update said that Brighton accepted a bid but then the chairman came home and stopped the deal going through! My understanding is that he was in australia but wouldn't answer the phone to finalise the deal. in hindsight he was obviously playing us (and if there is any criticism of the club its that they should have forgot about noone earlier)
A bid for sordell was also accepted and he was on his way here! If £3 million doesnt highlight the malaysians ambition i dont know what will.
Why cant we accept that we had money but just were unlucky not to get our targets and move on? Why has there always gotta be a conspiracy?


There has to be a conspiracy because fans cant handle that we just didnt get lucky in the transfer window with a chairman blocking a £1.5m move, Sordell being a greedy bugger and choosing a higher pay package after a bid of £3 m was accepted and Blackpool turning down £1 m for Phillips who Holloway reckons is the next big thing so wont sell for at least £10 m (knowing him anyway).

Obviously, because of this, the Malaysians are to blame (forgetting that the entire board contributes to transfer budget but there we go) and thus there has to be a conspiracy. If we dont sign anyone and shit hits the fan then obviously its the Malaysians fault. Nevermind that we've lost our 5th game of the season and now the team isnt good enough to win anything at all because they are all too tired (nevermind the fact that the Jacks went up with the same squad that they started with near enough, and Newcastle for that matter....and im sure many many others).

We havent got a devine right to be in the premiership and the transfer window makes a mug of most teams so why some fans dont realise this and slag the board and the Malaysians off i dont know, nevermind the whole "We lost to Blackpool, we are now gonna be relegated if we dont make at least 5 loan signings" lark. Fans need to get their heads out of the negativity and actually start realising just how good progress the club is making on and off the field. :roll:

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:48 pm

With our new loan signing today, and 2 more set to come in i can now put to bed any negativity i had about our board and manager :lol: in Malkay we trust 110% happy days. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Fair paly to you nobby top man :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " DO YOU AGREE WITH MALKAYS PHILOSOPHY ? "

Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:35 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:Fair paly to you nobby top man :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Cheers, its not often im wrong but when i am im miles off, thank god i was this time to, and i will always be the first to admit it to. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

In Malkay we trust. :ayatollah: