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Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:54 pm

taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.


its one simple answer its the populations right to determine who they are governed by the population have chosen to be British thats it no other argument is required.
Its the same argument the Scottish are giving that its their right to be ruled/governed by who they want self determination is the key
Self determination is behind the reason why our war in Iraq is largely considered illegal
Its why our intervention in Libya is widely considered a successful intervention.
If the population of the Falkland Islands want to be governed by Argentina they can but they dont, they want to be British and are happy with that
Its a strange situation given they are so far away but if you want to look at it on a geographical view we might as well give the Channel Islands to the French or the Germans as I believe they were the last occupying force.
The World has moved on since we had Soverign rights and the rights of conquerors its evolved and recognises the rights of self-determination and not the rights of the people who wave the biggest sabre.
If Argentina force a regime unwanted by a population the UN should have alarm bells ringing.
We seem to be more concerned about countries that have nothing to do with us and are prepared to stand up for their self-determination but seem to criticise our own rights and leave our own population hang out to dry.




Its all well and good for you to say "ah that was 1840 and times have changed" etc etc

But the Argentinian garrison at the time was forcibly removed by a bigger Naval
Force simply because Britain decided THEY wanted the Islands

At THAT time, the population would have voted to remain part of Argentina...

Britain never gave them the choice, they threw them off and colonised it.

Britain forced regime change back then.

Self-determination eh? The World recognises it? Really?

Try telling millions of Palestinians that

its called HISTORY,were do you stop,give america back to the indians,australia back to aboriginies,the people that live on the falklands and for that reason and that reason alone,we ssupport them :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:13 pm

Do they have a MacDonalds on the Falklands yet?

If not you mighht as well let the Argies have it for a while.

let them borrow it for about 6months, just to see how they get on.

However, they must promise....NO FUNNY BUSINESS!

ANy funny business and that's it....end of story .......Brazil will get the lot! :old:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:15 pm

krabb wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.


its one simple answer its the populations right to determine who they are governed by the population have chosen to be British thats it no other argument is required.
Its the same argument the Scottish are giving that its their right to be ruled/governed by who they want self determination is the key
Self determination is behind the reason why our war in Iraq is largely considered illegal
Its why our intervention in Libya is widely considered a successful intervention.
If the population of the Falkland Islands want to be governed by Argentina they can but they dont, they want to be British and are happy with that
Its a strange situation given they are so far away but if you want to look at it on a geographical view we might as well give the Channel Islands to the French or the Germans as I believe they were the last occupying force.
The World has moved on since we had Soverign rights and the rights of conquerors its evolved and recognises the rights of self-determination and not the rights of the people who wave the biggest sabre.
If Argentina force a regime unwanted by a population the UN should have alarm bells ringing.
We seem to be more concerned about countries that have nothing to do with us and are prepared to stand up for their self-determination but seem to criticise our own rights and leave our own population hang out to dry.




Its all well and good for you to say "ah that was 1840 and times have changed" etc etc

But the Argentinian garrison at the time was forcibly removed by a bigger Naval
Force simply because Britain decided THEY wanted the Islands

At THAT time, the population would have voted to remain part of Argentina...

Britain never gave them the choice, they threw them off and colonised it.

Britain forced regime change back then.

Self-determination eh? The World recognises it? Really?

Try telling millions of Palestinians that

its called HISTORY,were do you stop,give america back to the indians,australia back to aboriginies,the people that live on the falklands and for that reason and that reason alone,we ssupport them :ayatollah:


Totally off the track. The 'indians' were the original inhabitants of the USA, as were the
aborigines in Australia.

Lets not forget that a proportion of Falkland Islanders were of mixed Spanish and British
descent and until AFTER the Falklands war, they did not even hold British passports.
They were not classed as 'British'... only British dependants. They could not enter the
British Isles like ordinary citizens. Britain bribed them. When Argentina 'invaded' a
lot of the islanders werent even that arsed, it made no difference to them. It wasnt
Britain that was buying agricultural products off them, it was Argentina.

Now it does, because they are the most heavily subsidised British subjects on Earth
(another bribe)... they had a roaring trade with the Argentinians buying lamb off
them. Sooner than re-opening old trading routes, Britain paid the farmers ridiculous
amounts of money to just BURN surplus animals rather that build up links with
Argentina again.

So of course they vote to be British now. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

I'm not pro Argentina. Of course I'm not. f**k em. But f**k the Falkland Isles
too, f**k the inbred farmers. Did they used to send their sons to fight for
Britain? did they f**k.

Argentina WILL regain sovereignty or at least a joint sovereignty. Britain cant
afford to fight for the Islands again.

Will those Islanders feel betrayed? Yeh, for a while. Until the Argentinians start
subsidising them too.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:37 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:It's one of the most strategic points on the planet for shipping.

The Atlantic meets the Pacific and theirs oil there.

Mmmmmmmm! Tasty...not forgetting the penguins and the Phil Stant effort eh

Seriously, I think the brits should give it to the Paddys as an apology :D


apology my arse you paddies are getting your own back by quietly invading the british mainland breeding like rabbits and are slowly becoming the majority here ;)

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:34 pm

taffyapple wrote:
krabb wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.


its one simple answer its the populations right to determine who they are governed by the population have chosen to be British thats it no other argument is required.
Its the same argument the Scottish are giving that its their right to be ruled/governed by who they want self determination is the key
Self determination is behind the reason why our war in Iraq is largely considered illegal
Its why our intervention in Libya is widely considered a successful intervention.
If the population of the Falkland Islands want to be governed by Argentina they can but they dont, they want to be British and are happy with that
Its a strange situation given they are so far away but if you want to look at it on a geographical view we might as well give the Channel Islands to the French or the Germans as I believe they were the last occupying force.
The World has moved on since we had Soverign rights and the rights of conquerors its evolved and recognises the rights of self-determination and not the rights of the people who wave the biggest sabre.
If Argentina force a regime unwanted by a population the UN should have alarm bells ringing.
We seem to be more concerned about countries that have nothing to do with us and are prepared to stand up for their self-determination but seem to criticise our own rights and leave our own population hang out to dry.




Its all well and good for you to say "ah that was 1840 and times have changed" etc etc

But the Argentinian garrison at the time was forcibly removed by a bigger Naval
Force simply because Britain decided THEY wanted the Islands

At THAT time, the population would have voted to remain part of Argentina...

Britain never gave them the choice, they threw them off and colonised it.

Britain forced regime change back then.

Self-determination eh? The World recognises it? Really?

Try telling millions of Palestinians that

its called HISTORY,were do you stop,give america back to the indians,australia back to aboriginies,the people that live on the falklands and for that reason and that reason alone,we ssupport them :ayatollah:


Totally off the track. The 'indians' were the original inhabitants of the USA, as were the
aborigines in Australia.

Lets not forget that a proportion of Falkland Islanders were of mixed Spanish and British
descent and until AFTER the Falklands war, they did not even hold British passports.
They were not classed as 'British'... only British dependants. They could not enter the
British Isles like ordinary citizens. Britain bribed them. When Argentina 'invaded' a
lot of the islanders werent even that arsed, it made no difference to them. It wasnt
Britain that was buying agricultural products off them, it was Argentina.

Now it does, because they are the most heavily subsidised British subjects on Earth
(another bribe)... they had a roaring trade with the Argentinians buying lamb off
them. Sooner than re-opening old trading routes, Britain paid the farmers ridiculous
amounts of money to just BURN surplus animals rather that build up links with
Argentina again.

So of course they vote to be British now. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

I'm not pro Argentina. Of course I'm not. f**k em. But f**k the Falkland Isles
too, f**k the inbred farmers. Did they used to send their sons to fight for
Britain? did they f**k.

Argentina WILL regain sovereignty or at least a joint sovereignty. Britain cant
afford to fight for the Islands again.

Will those Islanders feel betrayed? Yeh, for a while. Until the Argentinians start
subsidising them too.


you are so full of rubbish The Falkland Islands are completely self sufficient the only thing they rely on from Britain is the Military and thats not unusual from every other British Overseas Territory like the Channel Islands for example.
Your argument that they havent sacrificed in our Wars is disgraceful yes they have they have the freedom to join our Armed Services but considering they only have a population of 3,000 you dont see many of them with most electing to defend the Islands directly through the Falkland Islands Defence Force.
I find it shocking that your so willing to defend and stand up for the rights of other countries and then you call for own people to rot very nice.
Plus for your information ethnic groups on the Islands only 2.6% is Spanish so not the best of arguments, of course they dont have UK passports they dont live in the UK.
I genuinely want to ask this you shoot down everything Britain does what is your problem no were not perfect yes we make mistakes but we generally have the best of intentions in everything we do but you shoot it down even to the point now where you want British citizens to rot and you dont care about them.
If your bitter about being British fine f**k off and find a different passport but dont put British citizens up shit creek without a paddle because it suits your bitter lifestyle and your apparent hatred for this country

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:18 pm

taffy,you seem a well informed bloke,but i got to agree with jonny,maybe im missing something here,and just to let you know,i was an 18 year old apprentice electrician when we fought the argentinians,and i can honestly say i was ready to go if
it did get to the call up stage,i felt then and would feel know that a part of britain was being invaded,but just my opinion,as we are all entitled to :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:42 pm

taffyapple wrote:But the Argentinian garrison at the time was forcibly removed by a bigger Naval
Force simply because Britain decided THEY wanted the Islands

At THAT time, the population would have voted to remain part of Argentina...


Might want to look up the history tbh.

Nice to see you've time travelled and known precisely what the population would have wanted. Since the bulk were not Argentinian...

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:53 pm

you are so full of rubbish The Falkland Islands are completely self sufficient the only thing they rely on from Britain is the Military and thats not unusual from every other British Overseas Territory like the Channel Islands for example.
Your argument that they havent sacrificed in our Wars is disgraceful yes they have they have the freedom to join our Armed Services but considering they only have a population of 3,000 you dont see many of them with most electing to defend the Islands directly through the Falkland Islands Defence Force.
I find it shocking that your so willing to defend and stand up for the rights of other countries and then you call for own people to rot very nice.
Plus for your information ethnic groups on the Islands only 2.6% is Spanish so not the best of arguments, of course they dont have UK passports they dont live in the UK.
I genuinely want to ask this you shoot down everything Britain does what is your problem no were not perfect yes we make mistakes but we generally have the best of intentions in everything we do but you shoot it down even to the point now where you want British citizens to rot and you dont care about them.
If your bitter about being British fine f**k off and find a different passport but dont put British citizens up shit creek without a paddle because it suits your bitter lifestyle and your apparent hatred for this country[/quote]

Long post by you. What a contradiction though.

"Of course they dont have British passports, they dont live in the UK"???

By definition, you are not a British citizen without one. They were never arsed, because
they were happily sat between the Argies and the British and milking them both. Why
would I give a f**k about people 8000 miles away who wore TWO flags of convenience.

As for me hating all things British? Where do you get that from.

I like the Scots, Irish AND the English, and if push came to shove I'd sooner them as
neighbors than just about anybody

I HATE politicians who lie their bollocks off and i despair of the gullible idiots who
fall for all their "Rule Brittania" bollocks. The Falklands was never ever about those
people.

Iraq was never, ever about weapons of mass destruction.

Afghanistan was never, ever about hunting down Al Q'aida and Bin Laden

Our troops know what their getting into when they take the Queens shilling and
never complain. they are the best in the World.

I f*cking despise the lying politicians who put them in harms way for no good
reason. Defence of the realm, fair enough.

The Falklands? British? says f*cking who? The Spanish, the French and the Argies
have as much of a claim to it. just because Britain bullied their way onto it over
a hundred years ago doesnt make it right.

As a p.p.s

I do not see people who choose to live and breed 8000 miles away from Britain
as British. Never will. Britain is a flag of convenience to them. Over the next
few years when Argentina get joint sovereignty or some other deal, you will
not see these inbred cunts queueing up to leave, they will just don Argentina
shirts in the morning and England shirts in the Afternoon, same as they always
did before the conflict where hundreds died for their 'rights to be British'...

The ultimate insult to our lads will be when their families see Falklanders
carrying on as if nothing has happened.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:00 pm

MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
Johnny Rythmn wrote:It's one of the most strategic points on the planet for shipping.

The Atlantic meets the Pacific and theirs oil there.

Mmmmmmmm! Tasty...not forgetting the penguins and the Phil Stant effort eh

Seriously, I think the brits should give it to the Paddys as an apology :D


apology my arse you paddies are getting your own back by quietly invading the british mainland breeding like rabbits and are slowly becoming the majority here ;)



It'll be a better country for it.

Then we Just have to liberate them muslim gals and see what they're at when the bhurka is abandoned :D

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:01 pm

krabb wrote:taffy,you seem a well informed bloke,but i got to agree with jonny,maybe im missing something here,and just to let you know,i was an 18 year old apprentice electrician when we fought the argentinians,and i can honestly say i was ready to go if
it did get to the call up stage,i felt then and would feel know that a part of britain was being invaded,but just my opinion,as we are all entitled to :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Jonny is the Oracle....he knows everything :roll:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:15 pm

taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.

great post and spot on! ... the falklands belong to argentina ... we stole it from them in the early 1800`s! ... time to give back whats rightly theirs! ... lets me honest who the f**k even heard of the place before 1981?????

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:18 pm

the fact that they live so far away has nothing to do with it
your trying to be clever and failing spectacularly
Britain has 14 overseas territories remnanats of the British Empire
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension, and Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
They are all self governed and declare loyalty to the Crown and Monarch namely Queen Elizabeth II
They have all chosen by self-determination to fly under the British Flag
I know what your trying to do you just say the complete opposite of what our Government says
I bet you a £1 if the Government were in talks to give the Falklands to the Argentinians you would be here waving your sabre telling us we should do all we can to help them.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:23 pm

AHERNE wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.

great post and spot on! ... the falklands belong to argentina ... we stole it from them in the early 1800`s! ... time to give back whats rightly theirs! ... lets me honest who the f**k even heard of the place before 1981?????


I suppose your talking about 1832 where The Argentinians turned up to build a penal colony on the Islands they lasted 4 days before a mutiny ensued and the Argentinians killed their commander, they stayed for a further 2 months before the British forces arrived and politely told the Argentinians to piss off.
They tried and failed then
They tried and failed in 1982
They will try and fail now.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:31 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:the fact that they live so far away has nothing to do with it
your trying to be clever and failing spectacularly
Britain has 14 overseas territories remnanats of the British Empire
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Helena, Ascension, and Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia
Turks and Caicos Islands
They are all self governed and declare loyalty to the Crown and Monarch namely Queen Elizabeth II
They have all chosen by self-determination to fly under the British Flag
I know what your trying to do you just say the complete opposite of what our Government says
I bet you a £1 if the Government were in talks to give the Falklands to the Argentinians you would be here waving your sabre telling us we should do all we can to help them.


How many of the above are British Citizens apart from Gibraltar?

Would you send our troops to war for them?

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:33 pm

It is too soon to hand the Falklands over. I lost mates in that war and I expect any British government to respect what they fought for.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:38 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
AHERNE wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:this really annoys me the Argentinians talk about Sovereignty like its their God given right completely ignoring self determination and apparently we are the bad guys
The Falklands were theirs almost 2 centuries ago.
The island population are British they are proud to be British and anything the Argentinian government or the British government say will change that. The Argentinians have no rights to those islands and the British government have no right to hand them over.


Yes, there are British subjects on those Islands who want the Islands to
remain British. Thats fair enough. Britain getting behind them and
saying 'f**k off Argentina' is also fair enough.

But right up until the time Britain colonised the Islands, Argentina were
still claiming them as THEIR sovereign territory. So by what divine right
do Britain hold claim to the Islands? Argentina called them trespassers
then and call them trespassers now!!!

Argentina's argument (valid, of course, in their eyes) is that the people
who by self-determination, claim the Islands for Britain are seen as no
more than squatters by Argentina. Squatters who refuse to leave and who
have had the cheek to call the property their own.

great post and spot on! ... the falklands belong to argentina ... we stole it from them in the early 1800`s! ... time to give back whats rightly theirs! ... lets me honest who the f**k even heard of the place before 1981?????


I suppose your talking about 1832 where The Argentinians turned up to build a penal colony on the Islands they lasted 4 days before a mutiny ensued and the Argentinians killed their commander, they stayed for a further 2 months before the British forces arrived and politely told the Argentinians to piss off.
They tried and failed then
They tried and failed in 1982
They will try and fail now.


Get off google will ya.

The USA has already backed the Argentinians in a bid to discuss sovereignty.
Britain is Americas lap dog. America will broker a deal. The Falklanders will
go back to supporting England at cricket and Argentina at football. They will
do ok financially, its all they have ever been arsed about.

No point discussing this further

Two years from now one of us will be proved right

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:03 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:It is too soon to hand the Falklands over. I lost mates in that war and I expect any British government to respect what they fought for.


Same as Northern Ireland mate. Hand it over they will, but the capitulation will
be hidden behind rhetoric and politi-speak making it look like its what 'we' were
after in the first place. Im going to give the game away early here. My auntie's
neighbor is an old boy who lived on the Falklands for donkeys years. Came back
in the 90's. He himself reckons the Falkland islanders have more faces than the
town hall clock. They would have backed whoever won that war. Sad but true.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:16 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:It is too soon to hand the Falklands over. I lost mates in that war and I expect any British government to respect what they fought for.


Same as Northern Ireland mate. Hand it over they will, but the capitulation will
be hidden behind rhetoric and politi-speak making it look like its what 'we' were
after in the first place. Im going to give the game away early here. My auntie's
neighbor is an old boy who lived on the Falklands for donkeys years. Came back
in the 90's. He himself reckons the Falkland islanders have more faces than the
town hall clock. They would have backed whoever won that war. Sad but true.


Had a couple of mates in the paras who fought in the Falklands war. After the Argentines surrendered they had an argument with some of the Falklanders about "convenience". That is the Falkland islanders doing business with Argentina before the war broke out. The paras asked the questions about the locals returning to business with the Argentines once the fighting troops had left. The now residents, known as Bennys due to their resemblence of that Crossroads character, where very uncomfortable in their replies.

The cameras showed them rejoicing with the cameras but behind the scenes there were some soldiers learning who the real enemies were.

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:07 pm

All I no is a lot a british service men were killed or injured back 82 along with the argie losses history was made.

If we give the falklands back then all those people would have died in vain for nothing lots of families on both side still suffer from the losses.

Its a very difficult one but if we give it up then why would all the current british service men and women still give 100 % commitment when in 30 odd years time there fight could stand for nothing.

The decision to defend it was taken a long time ago and because a lot of people gave there lives defending it then I would say it has to be defended now.

I dont no much about the falklands but its British and thats good enough for me .

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:24 pm

Firstly can I say what a f*cking excellent debate - I've had to re-think some of my standpoints reading this.

My twopenneth is ( as 30 years ago ) - if they want to be British - let them resettle here ( no big deal considering the numbers that flee other conflicts ).

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:51 pm

Most experts agree now if they move to take it we would be powerless to stop it. Momentum is gaining in Argentina and I think its a matter of time. The British army has been stripped thread bare. I dont even think we have an aircraft carrier now we may be sharing with the French. Sadly The Argies may have the upper hand :?

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:44 am

krabb wrote:i say f@ck ummmmm :ayatollah:



And Pompey want their clock back, fcuk em both :lol: :lol:

Re: argentina wants the falklands back........

Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:18 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:It is too soon to hand the Falklands over. I lost mates in that war and I expect any British government to respect what they fought for.


Same as Northern Ireland mate. Hand it over they will, but the capitulation will
be hidden behind rhetoric and politi-speak making it look like its what 'we' were
after in the first place. Im going to give the game away early here. My auntie's
neighbor is an old boy who lived on the Falklands for donkeys years. Came back
in the 90's. He himself reckons the Falkland islanders have more faces than the
town hall clock. They would have backed whoever won that war. Sad but true.


Had a couple of mates in the paras who fought in the Falklands war. After the Argentines surrendered they had an argument with some of the Falklanders about "convenience". That is the Falkland islanders doing business with Argentina before the war broke out. The paras asked the questions about the locals returning to business with the Argentines once the fighting troops had left. The now residents, known as Bennys due to their resemblence of that Crossroads character, where very uncomfortable in their replies.

The cameras showed them rejoicing with the cameras but behind the scenes there were some soldiers learning who the real enemies were.


Spot on mate. You are in the know. My own brother was out there and had the
same feeling about them. Far be it from me to piss on anyones "their British
and lets love them and protect them" chips.....

But when the Argentinians landed originally, it was Falkland Isanders that gave
them information as to exactly where the Royal Marines were. It was also
kept quiet that more than a few of them were waving Argentinian flags when
the fuckers landed. The excuse was "they were afraid for their childrens lives"

Yeh righto.