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Re: ...hostility towards 'plastic fans'

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:35 pm

Forever Blue wrote:But in your minds what is a plastic fan ?


A "cardiff fan" who's been to wembley more than the CCS. (Unless they live on the otherside of the world and rarely get to see City).

Re: Plastics once again !!

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:37 pm

part of me doesn't care about the plastics because they will NEVER know what a derby really means or feels like, what success and failure really feels like and will never be a part of a football club. :ayatollah:

Re: Plastics once again !!

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:39 pm

You tell 'em boyo.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


Someone who supports a club other than their local club.

I.e. a Newport resident supporting Cardiff :D

Re: ...hostility towards 'plastic fans'

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:But in your minds what is a plastic fan ?



my brother in law is the biggest plastic fan ive met...

ive offered him my season ticket many times when i cannot attend, and he replies he is busy, or hes not watching that rubbish if we have gone on a losing streak etc..

for yrs hes been telling me that he is getting a season ticket only to change his mind we when fail in the play offs.. i havnt spoken to him much in the last few months, however i know he is going to contact me to ask if i can get him a wembley ticket. which is also what he asked the last time...

he has only ever been to the new stadium once and that was on boxing day a yr or 2 ago when he had a ticket bought for him for xmas..

to me this is a plastic fan! p.s. he owns a older liverpool shirt from his school days, a blackburn shirt with shearer on the back and a newcastle shirt from quite a while back also!

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?



see the other topic, i think ive described one exactly..

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:45 pm

Aramore wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


Someone who supports a club other than their local club.

I.e. a Newport resident supporting Cardiff :D



Born in Roath Cardiff. :ayatollah:

I hate Newport.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:45 pm

I would say a plastic fan is not a fan but more of a follower looking out for results on the tv or Internet of their chosen team. Plastics don't love their club like we do because don't feel the connection as they watch their team through a tv as opposed to watching in the flesh

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:48 pm

Anyone who supports a team from outside the area where they were born (or currently reside) that they have no emotional attachment too.

Most of them support the team from the armchair/local pub. One or two occasionally venture to a game like the devon reds and newport koppites. They also knock their local team and mock its loyal supporters.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:50 pm

They melt when Cardiff lose.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:51 pm

Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


To me it someone who says they support a certain team, but have never been to watch them, for example, i met a guy in work and he said he was a spurs fan, so i said do you go and watch them often, his reply was ive NEVER been to see them. So to me that defines a plastic armchair fan.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:51 pm

Plastics are people from cities e.g Cardiff who support other teams i.e in Premier league and watch games in pub or home on sky and have never been to a game in their life who class themselves as proper fans :evil: And use the terms like we were all over them today and should have won the game :roll:

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:51 pm

FOOTSOLDIER wrote:They melt when Cardiff lose.



Thats how I would describe them.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:52 pm

nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


To me it someone who says they support a certain team, but have never been to watch them, for example, i met a guy in work and he said he was a spurs fan, so i said do you go and watch them often, his reply was ive NEVER been to see them. So to me that defines a plastic armchair fan.



I also agree with that Dai. :ayatollah:

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:55 pm

I think a lot of Premiership plastic fans probably support their local aswell.

Personally I have preferred teams in most leagues that I look out for every now and again.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?



My son in law is the perfect example of a plastic fan to me Annis, and to make things worse he "Supports" Liverpool but has never seen them live except on TV. Always had the latest Liverpool shirt when he was a teenager but never ever thought og going to watch his local club, why?, because at that time Liverpool were winning the League, Cup, European Cup at will. He named his son, my grandson, Owen after Michael Owen and has done his level best to turn him into a another plastic Liverpool fan.

But no grandson of mine is going to be a plastic Liverpool fan whilst there is breath in my body and Owen is now a Bluebird through and through. He has watched every Carling Cup match at home this season and watched every second, extra time penalties whatever. He is only 9 and wild horses couldn't drag him out of the stadium until the game is over.

Tonight I had to drop him off a home and his dad tried to wind him up about what Liverpool were going to do to us. Owen told him straight your not even a real Liverpool fan as you've never seen then live, Gary says your a plastic and he's right.

I'm a Bluebird Dad and I've watched every game but one this season and I've been to Watford. How many times have you watched Liverpool live this season.

That's my boy I thought tell the fecking plastic.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


To me it someone who says they support a certain team, but have never been to watch them, for example, i met a guy in work and he said he was a spurs fan, so i said do you go and watch them often, his reply was ive NEVER been to see them. So to me that defines a plastic armchair fan.



I also agree with that Dai. :ayatollah:


Being from Port Talbot, some fans may class me as a plastic as i support Cardiff, but to me as i go to EVERY single home game and away games when i can, i dont see it as being plastic as i actually support the team.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:59 pm

Aramore wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


Someone who supports a club other than their local club.

I.e. a Newport resident supporting Cardiff :D


I was born in Caerphilly and I support Cardiff, does that mean I am one too? :(

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:00 pm

sambluebird wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


Someone who supports a club other than their local club.

I.e. a Newport resident supporting Cardiff :D


I was born in Caerphilly and I support Cardiff, does that mean I am one too? :(


Nah, means you have good sense :P

Also is there a team closer to Caerphilly than Cardiff?

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:01 pm

If you support your team in the flesh then no you are not a plastic.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:01 pm

nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


To me it someone who says they support a certain team, but have never been to watch them, for example, i met a guy in work and he said he was a spurs fan, so i said do you go and watch them often, his reply was ive NEVER been to see them. So to me that defines a plastic armchair fan.



Well by this definition I am a plastic, and so I anyone who does not have the opprotunity to go to the games... :) ....I still watch all the games on Cardiff City Player.

By "plastics" is this similar to the North American phrase "fair weather".
Last edited by greenlawler on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:01 pm

its very simple to me its someone who supports the club when they are doing well but when times are hard they are no where to be seen. :old:

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:02 pm

Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?

In my mind a plastic fan is an electrical appliance or battery operated utility to help condition air to make ones space more climately comfortable! It is a replica (or pound shop) version of the sturdy chrome or aluminium type. Personally I would rather hold a conversation about football with one of these than the actual plastic fan you're talking about! :lol:

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:02 pm

I went to st bernadettes and st illtyds and was surrounded by ManUtd Liverpool Arsenal and Chelsea Plastics.
Kids would laugh at me when I said I supported Cardiff .
I have never and will never support any other team than Cardiff.
From bouncing around the BOB Bank to Lower Grandstand Grangend between 1996 and 2004 I was aseas

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:03 pm

castleblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?



My son in law is the perfect example of a plastic fan to me Annis, and to make things worse he "Supports" Liverpool but has never seen them live except on TV. Always had the latest Liverpool shirt when he was a teenager but never ever thought og going to watch his local club, why?, because at that time Liverpool were winning the League, Cup, European Cup at will. He named his son, my grandson, Owen after Michael Owen and has done his level best to turn him into a another plastic Liverpool fan.

But no grandson of mine is going to be a plastic Liverpool fan whilst there is breath in my body and Owen is now a Bluebird through and through. He has watched every Carling Cup match at home this season and watched every second, extra time penalties whatever. He is only 9 and wild horses couldn't drag him out of the stadium until the game is over.

Tonight I had to drop him off a home and his dad tried to wind him up about what Liverpool were going to do to us. Owen told him straight your not even a real Liverpool fan as you've never seen then live, Gary says your a plastic and he's right.

I'm a Bluebird Dad and I've watched every game but one this season and I've been to Watford. How many times have you watched Liverpool live this season.

That's my boy I thought tell the fecking plastic.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:




:lol:

Gary
I LOVE Owen. :ayatollah:

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:04 pm

Merlin wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?

In my mind a plastic fan is an electrical appliance or battery operated utility to help condition air to make ones space more climately comfortable! It is a replica (or pound shop) version of the sturdy chrome or aluminium type. Personally I would rather hold a conversation about football with one of these than the actual plastic fan you're talking about! :lol:


That reminds me of a plastic fan I have from the phillipines.

That's close enough to Malaysia for me to wave it at Cardiff matches right?

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:06 pm

greenlawler wrote:
nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


To me it someone who says they support a certain team, but have never been to watch them, for example, i met a guy in work and he said he was a spurs fan, so i said do you go and watch them often, his reply was ive NEVER been to see them. So to me that defines a plastic armchair fan.



Well by this definition I am a plastic, and so I anyone who does not have the opprotunity to go to the games... :) ....I still watch all the games on Cardiff City Player.

By "plastics" is this similar to the North American phrase "fair weather".


Its a different scenario for you being from Tenessee, your are hardly going to travel back and forth every week, whereas if i said i was a Cardiff fan and i live 45 miles away and never went to watch them i would define myself as a plastic fan.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:10 pm

nobby wrote:
greenlawler wrote:
nobby wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In your minds what is a plastic fan ?


To me it someone who says they support a certain team, but have never been to watch them, for example, i met a guy in work and he said he was a spurs fan, so i said do you go and watch them often, his reply was ive NEVER been to see them. So to me that defines a plastic armchair fan.



Well by this definition I am a plastic, and so I anyone who does not have the opprotunity to go to the games... :) ....I still watch all the games on Cardiff City Player.

By "plastics" is this similar to the North American phrase "fair weather".


Its a different scenario for you being from Tenessee, your are hardly going to travel back and forth every week, whereas if i said i was a Cardiff fan and i live 45 miles away and never went to watch them i would define myself as a plastic fan.


Thanks for the clarification....I legitimatley do not understand fully what you guys define as a plastic....all I know is I do not want to be one....and I don't feel like one. I watched the Palace game for the third time today, and got the chills when you guys were singing Men of Harlech right before the pens...great atmosphere. One day I hope to add to it.

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:12 pm

Someone who supports a club, but never goes to watch them, or some one who supports a club because they won the Premiership title a couple of times, eg, Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, & now Man City ones are beginning to emerge.
I kid you not, but a few weeks ago i saw this fella on the train in Cardiff wearing a Man City top, with his family, & his little girle's name was,,, Chelsea!!!

Re: " WHAT DEFINES A PLASTIC FAN ? "

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:13 pm

I think we are being harsh in a lot of ways. Anyone who doesnt follow Cardiff but now wants to go to wembley is definately a plastic....
But wen a 6 year old kid decides to support Liverpool/Man Utd/Chelsea etc then u cant exactly have a go calling them plastic, they are young kids and they want to support the best, just like they have toys such as Superman etc cos they are the heroes. Other kids would definately laugh at them if their favourite super hero was Shrek.
So perhaps they are being loyal by sticking by that club throughout their life.

Its just an opinion, but on the other hand I am getting well pissed off with Liverpool fans asking me for a ticket to wembley!!!!!!!!!!