" TUESDAY 17th JANUARY 2012 MINI-UPDATE "

Nice update.

With regards to the dilemma of the stadium expansion, I am led to believe that the 60,000 footprint can be realised simply by allowing more walkways at the back of the ninian stand. Furthermore, Sloper Road and additional approach roads would be closed to traffic for up to to an hour before and after kick off.

There may also be a lower safety certificate for night games. Nothing new there, as Wembley used to be limited to 92,000 for night games due to similar issues.

That said, I am led to believe that a 37,000 capacity requires only minor adjustments at the time of writing.

Yes Joff, 35,000 can be done within months, but the stadium can never be a 50,000 to 60,000 now.

Nothing about LFW, sorry Blazing

now you will upset him

It's just being kept a little quiet to throw clubs of the scent a little

I can't see us ever needing a 50-60k stadium to be honest.

Nice update.

With regards to the dilemma of the stadium expansion, I am led to believe that the 60,000 footprint can be realised simply by allowing more walkways at the back of the ninian stand. Furthermore, Sloper Road and additional approach roads would be closed to traffic for up to to an hour before and after kick off.

There may also be a lower safety certificate for night games. Nothing new there, as Wembley used to be limited to 92,000 for night games due to similar issues.

That said, I am led to believe that a 37,000 capacity requires only minor adjustments at the time of writing.

I was told by someone that the stadium capacity can be extended quite easily, and a further 8 rows of seats can be added around to the current capacity with ease.

Yes thats for 35,000 Dai, I think the permission for 60,000 has now gone for ever due to the sales of all the lands around etc.

I doubt it'll be forever, if we get a consistent 60k crowd we'll bring so much into the Cardiff economy they'll bend over backwards to accommodate us.

Nice update.

With regards to the dilemma of the stadium expansion, I am led to believe that the 60,000 footprint can be realised simply by allowing more walkways at the back of the ninian stand. Furthermore, Sloper Road and additional approach roads would be closed to traffic for up to to an hour before and after kick off.

There may also be a lower safety certificate for night games. Nothing new there, as Wembley used to be limited to 92,000 for night games due to similar issues.

That said, I am led to believe that a 37,000 capacity requires only minor adjustments at the time of writing.

I was told by someone that the stadium capacity can be extended quite easily, and a further 8 rows of seats can be added around to the current capacity with ease.

Yes thats for 35,000 Dai, I think the permission for 60,000 has now gone for ever due to the sales of all the lands around etc.

Yes mate thats the one, when the stadium opened and i was at the Legends game, i got talking to one of the guys whos company built the stadium and he explained it all to me, but i cant remember everything he said now as its been a while and i had had a few beers to.

Nice update.

With regards to the dilemma of the stadium expansion, I am led to believe that the 60,000 footprint can be realised simply by allowing more walkways at the back of the ninian stand. Furthermore, Sloper Road and additional approach roads would be closed to traffic for up to to an hour before and after kick off.

There may also be a lower safety certificate for night games. Nothing new there, as Wembley used to be limited to 92,000 for night games due to similar issues.

That said, I am led to believe that a 37,000 capacity requires only minor adjustments at the time of writing.

I was told by someone that the stadium capacity can be extended quite easily, and a further 8 rows of seats can be added around to the current capacity with ease.

Dai
Havent seen you in the Ninian Pub for ages.
Yes thats for 35,000 Dai, I think the permission for 60,000 has now gone for ever due to the sales of all the lands around etc.

Yes mate thats the one, when the stadium opened and i was at the Legends game, i got talking to one of the guys whos company built the stadium and he explained it all to me, but i cant remember everything he said now as its been a while and i had had a few beers to.

Nice update.

With regards to the dilemma of the stadium expansion, I am led to believe that the 60,000 footprint can be realised simply by allowing more walkways at the back of the ninian stand. Furthermore, Sloper Road and additional approach roads would be closed to traffic for up to to an hour before and after kick off.

There may also be a lower safety certificate for night games. Nothing new there, as Wembley used to be limited to 92,000 for night games due to similar issues.

That said, I am led to believe that a 37,000 capacity requires only minor adjustments at the time of writing.

I was told by someone that the stadium capacity can be extended quite easily, and a further 8 rows of seats can be added around to the current capacity with ease.

Dai
Havent seen you in the Ninian Pub for ages.
Yes thats for 35,000 Dai, I think the permission for 60,000 has now gone for ever due to the sales of all the lands around etc.

Yes mate thats the one, when the stadium opened and i was at the Legends game, i got talking to one of the guys whos company built the stadium and he explained it all to me, but i cant remember everything he said now as its been a while and i had had a few beers to.

The last time i went to the Ninian Pub i was only in there for 2 minutes and everyone went, i took the hint after that and have not been there since , having said that its been a while since ive been to the Canton Cross, usually stay in town before games now, but its rarely i have a session before a game nowadays.

Nice update.

With regards to the dilemma of the stadium expansion, I am led to believe that the 60,000 footprint can be realised simply by allowing more walkways at the back of the ninian stand. Furthermore, Sloper Road and additional approach roads would be closed to traffic for up to to an hour before and after kick off.

There may also be a lower safety certificate for night games. Nothing new there, as Wembley used to be limited to 92,000 for night games due to similar issues.

That said, I am led to believe that a 37,000 capacity requires only minor adjustments at the time of writing.

I was told by someone that the stadium capacity can be extended quite easily, and a further 8 rows of seats can be added around to the current capacity with ease.

Dai
Havent seen you in the Ninian Pub for ages.
Yes thats for 35,000 Dai, I think the permission for 60,000 has now gone for ever due to the sales of all the lands around etc.

Yes mate thats the one, when the stadium opened and i was at the Legends game, i got talking to one of the guys whos company built the stadium and he explained it all to me, but i cant remember everything he said now as its been a while and i had had a few beers to.

The last time i went to the Ninian Pub i was only in there for 2 minutes and everyone went, i took the hint after that and have not been there since , having said that its been a while since ive been to the Canton Cross, usually stay in town before games now, but its rarely i have a session before a game nowadays.

Ok, Dai get on the Forum bus one day, it starts from your area.

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

Dai
Havent seen you in the Ninian Pub for ages.
Yes thats for 35,000 Dai, I think the permission for 60,000 has now gone for ever due to the sales of all the lands around etc.[/quote]

Yes mate thats the one, when the stadium opened and i was at the Legends game, i got talking to one of the guys whos company built the stadium and he explained it all to me, but i cant remember everything he said now as its been a while and i had had a few beers to. [/quote][/quote]

The last time i went to the Ninian Pub i was only in there for 2 minutes and everyone went, i took the hint after that and have not been there since , having said that its been a while since ive been to the Canton Cross, usually stay in town before games now, but its rarely i have a session before a game nowadays. [/quote]





Ok, Dai get on the Forum bus one day, it starts from your area. [/quote][/quote]

I normally take the car to away games mate, having said that i did have a lift to the ground on the forum bus in Preston last season, i also had a lift after the game and got dropped off no where near where i was staying, but thats another story, Carl will tell you or Baked alasker.

If we were ever in a position to proceed with going ahead with a 60k capacity, as lawnmower has said,we would just buy the buildings which were hindering the safety certificate.

Liverpool and Everton did a similar purchase agreement when developing their hemmed in stadiums.Liverpool bought a few streets after an elderly resident opposed to expansion passed away.

Besides, the retail outlets (and hotel)were in the original stadium plan.

If you dont think big, you never will be big as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

If we were ever in a position to proceed with going ahead with a 60k capacity, as lawnmower has said,we would just buy the buildings which were hindering the safety certificate.

Liverpool and Everton did a similar purchase agreement when developing their hemmed in stadiums.Liverpool bought a few streets after an elderly resident opposed to expansion passed away.

Besides, the retail outlets (and hotel)were in the original stadium plan.

It's spooky walking around anfield with all the houses boarded up

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

Arsenal has had a long time of success with a much higher budget and a catchment area of people from all over London.

We have a championship side with relatively good success in recent years but nothing compared to them with no where near the budget and a much smaller catchment area.

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

Arsenal has had a long time of success with a much higher budget and a catchment area of people from all over London.

We have a championship side with relatively good success in recent years but nothing compared to them with no where near the budget and a much smaller catchment area.

Yes but if we spent years in the Premier League, we have a catchment area of at least one million people and no decent team near us for over a 100 miles, we would get those crowds, I am quite sure of it.

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

Arsenal has had a long time of success with a much higher budget and a catchment area of people from all over London.

We have a championship side with relatively good success in recent years but nothing compared to them with no where near the budget and a much smaller catchment area.

Yes but if we spent years in the Premier League, we have a catchment area of at least one million people and no decent team near us for over a 100 miles, we would get those crowds, I am quite sure of it.

In that much time if we're that successful we can just buy the millennium stadium. It'll be close to bankruptcy by that point.

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

Arsenal has had a long time of success with a much higher budget and a catchment area of people from all over London.

We have a championship side with relatively good success in recent years but nothing compared to them with no where near the budget and a much smaller catchment area.

Yes but if we spent years in the Premier League, we have a catchment area of at least one million people and no decent team near us for over a 100 miles, we would get those crowds, I am quite sure of it.

In that much time if we're that successful we can just buy the millennium stadium. It'll be close to bankruptcy by that point.

Fair point, beaten on that one.

But you should always think big and Cardiff City can be big.

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

Arsenal has had a long time of success with a much higher budget and a catchment area of people from all over London.

We have a championship side with relatively good success in recent years but nothing compared to them with no where near the budget and a much smaller catchment area.

Yes but if we spent years in the Premier League, we have a catchment area of at least one million people and no decent team near us for over a 100 miles, we would get those crowds, I am quite sure of it.

In that much time if we're that successful we can just buy the millennium stadium. It'll be close to bankruptcy by that point.

Fair point, beaten on that one.

But you should always think big and Cardiff City can be big.

I definitely agree we can be big, I just think if/when we get to a point we need a 60k seater we should be powerful enough to bulldozer our way through any problems.

How much will we offer for noone?

Cheers Carl

How much would it cost to knock down KFC and Macdonalds ? Its only a small building. Job done

How much would it cost to knock down KFC and Macdonalds ? Its only a small building. Job done

Where would people go for half time food

60K

I'm glad that our owners are realistic enough to realise that a 60K stadium is a non starter.

If you dont think big, you never will be big, as the saying goes.

Why cant we be as big as Arsenal ? Please answer

Arsenal has had a long time of success with a much higher budget and a catchment area of people from all over London.

We have a championship side with relatively good success in recent years but nothing compared to them with no where near the budget and a much smaller catchment area.

Yes but if we spent years in the Premier League, we have a catchment area of at least one million people and no decent team near us for over a 100 miles, we would get those crowds, I am quite sure of it.

In that much time if we're that successful we can just buy the millennium stadium. It'll be close to bankruptcy by that point.

Fair point, beaten on that one.

But you should always think big and Cardiff City can be big.

That would be thinking big. Sharing with Wales at the Millenium as opposed to the Blues at CCS.

chhers for update carl but knew all of this,as for the 60k lol@that we can not sell out for a semi final of a cup jokeworthy to be honest.

How much will we offer for noone?

£400,000-£500,000, they want £1 MIll.

As I announced on here last night Mehmet Dalman has been registered as a director of Cardiff City Football Club, Dalman is effectively replacing U-Jiun Tan on the board of directors. Dalman was registered as a director on 10/01/12 at Companies House. Dalman is a football man and as you have read probably today that he has been around football for a long time.

U-Jiun is pursuing other interests and he being replaced has no bearing on the Malaysians position at the club.

Dalman has spent weeks going through the due diligence process and I am told is not just becoming a director but will be investing into the club as well. He has experience and expertise at brokering deals and Dalman becoming a director bears more than just a coincidence with some information I was told last night.

I have been led to believe that the Langston and PMG debts will be dealt with and it is expected that both will be completed this summer, everything I have been told about Dalman is positive and that his appointment is a very good acquisition by the club.

As we know Malky, Steve Borley and Alan Whiteley are in Malaysia and that the primary reason is to support the 1MCC grass roots foundation but if anyone thinks that Malky is not there discussing the possibility to have more funds to spend in the transfer window is somewhat naïve.

I can confirm that the club does have an interest in Jamie Mackie, QPR, but no offer has been made because I am told that up to this point the budget will not stretch to the £1.5million that QPR are seeking, added to that is Mackie is on a very high wage at Loftus Road. There is interest from other clubs for Mackie so if City wish to get him then Malky has to hope that he is given more money to spend in this window.

With the Craig Noone bid, I am told there is a ‘bit of poker’ going on at present and Malky was hoping to play it all out behind the scenes but once it got out in the press then his cover was blown, it is expected that an improved offer will be made for Noone.

Steve Borley is out in Malaysia to discuss the ‘House of Sport 2’ that he is planning on building next to the original building and when this is built it will give the club the grade 2 academy level that they are just shy of at the moment.

As I said in a previous update Aaron Wildig completed an extension to his Shrewsbury loan and he will now stay on loan until the end of the season.

This afternoon I took a call and amongst various subjects regarding City, one in particular caught my attention more than the rest. I was told, and I don’t know myself if this is 100% fact or not, that since the buildings went up around the outskirts of the stadium, ie. KFC, McDonalds, Sand Martin then we can no longer increase our stadium capacity to the 60,000 figure that was always heralded when the stadium build started, apparently because of the lack of exits then we would not be allowed to increase to such a capacity. If this is indeed true then I am gobsmacked that the regime who allowed this to happen, actually went for short term survival over long term planning. I will be asking more questions tomorrow about this to see if it is indeed true.

The club are very happy with the recent surge in sales of Crystal Palace tickets but would like to remind supporters that there is a more important game taking place and that is the Portsmouth game on Saturday, the club hope that City fans turn up in their thousands and buy tickets for this game before Saturday but have also asked to me to announce that you can buy Palace tickets on Saturday prior to the Pompey game.

Yeah, like we're ever gonna need a 60,000 Stadium. In your dreams mate.

How much would it cost to knock down KFC and Macdonalds ? Its only a small building. Job done

Where would people go for half time food

Eating is cheating

I'm sure that KFC/Sandmartin/Hotel etc were in the orginal plans for the stadium (there used to be a plan on the internet somewhere)

So it is hard to understand why their building has affected the potential capacity of CCS, unless the 60,000 idea was dropped at a very early stage of development.

I'm sure that KFC/Sandmartin/Hotel etc were in the orginal plans for the stadium (there used to be a plan on the internet somewhere)

So it is hard to understand why their building has affected the potential capacity of CCS, unless the 60,000 idea was dropped at a very early stage of development.

all the foundations were put in place for a sixty thousand seater stadium and you are right tony the future retail was outlined on the stadium plans along with the now proposed travel lodge hotel.
all the exit roads are as the original scheme so i would have thought there would only be minor tinkering to allow us to expand.