" ROBERT EARNSHAW ? "

wether or not he signed and malky said yes or no is irrelevant. The fact remains that in a game like yesterday where we could have grabbed 3 vital points against a team thats struggling we should have had a striker on the bench. Earnie may be a shadow of his former self but he still gets goals and might have won us that game had he come on

I have to agree.

wether or not he signed and malky said yes or no is irrelevant. The fact remains that in a game like yesterday where we could have grabbed 3 vital points against a team thats struggling we should have had a striker on the bench. Earnie may be a shadow of his former self but he still gets goals and might have won us that game had he come on

spot on. earnie more likely to get you a goal than mcphail or cowie.

Even if he didn't want him MM shouldn't be do stubborn, tryin to prove a point to someone?
Bloody hell even DJ wasn't that stubborn and continued to use the likes of purse, thomo etc when he wanted rid.

If he is fit then I struggle to believe it makes real sense to anyone to have no striker on the bench when you have earnie available. It's crazy.

I would think the club would want MM to get rid of earnie before bringing in another striker this window.

This is well put. People on here won't have a word said against MM, he has done an exceptional job since he came but he is tactically naive not to put him on bench. We don't lose many away from home but I think it is now 8 we have drawn.

Now I have been an Earnie fans since he was a kid.
I acknowledge he is not in his prime anymore, but we are short up front big time.
I dont expect him to start every week, but he could still be a great super sub in my opinion.

Earnie is on about £13,000 a week(never had a signing on fee).

Malky as you can see does not want him, but and I mean but, other clubs cant afford his wages, so we are struggling to get rid of him. He wasn't a Malky signing, the deal was virtually done by our club.

On Sat at Doncaster we had no striker on the bench, Earnie is fit and ready.


Opinions please.

In MALKY we TRUST

i think he can still be a super sub, even if he makes mistakes he will still be trying up until the final whistle and he always seems to pop up in the right place even if he isnt aware of it

I believe he can still score lots of goals, but obviously something is wrong between him and malky. When he played for us before and got injured he seemed to need 3/4 games to get scoring again. He keeps defenders busy aswell creating gaps. Many a time lennie would take him off late in a game to save him and the other side would see no longer a threat push players up and score. I felt like strangling lennie on a few occasions.

I believe he can still score lots of goals, but obviously something is wrong between him and malky. When he played for us before and got injured he seemed to need 3/4 games to get scoring again. He keeps defenders busy aswell creating gaps. Many a time lennie would take him off late in a game to save him and the other side would see no longer a threat push players up and score. I felt like strangling lennie on a few occasions.

i couldnt stand lennie lawrence

people moan about dj. LL was so negative.

What people have to remember is that Earnie was infact the first person to actually sell MM to Us via the Echo, And seemed well knowledge'd in that MM would in deed be Cardiff City's next Manager, So Both Earnie and MM would have had some form of understanding?, Because bringing Earnie back blind would be nothing short of ludicrous and not fair to either Earnie or MM. However I do believe Earnie has a part to play with Cardiff and that MM possibly has the same in mind, not to forget that not long ago Blakie's future with City looked grim, But seem's to have found favour of late, So MM may just be trying his options, I think the world of Earnie but MM is the first City Boss in years I actually trust and will go with His choices in regards to Team affairs.

But we need at least three even four players asap.

MM's game plan is based on team work by working hard and closing down the opposition. Earnie doesn't come in to that category as he is like the goal hanger we all had in the school yard who just stayed up front waiting for opportunities. The fact he does not pass to his team mates will not sit well with Malky

Bit late joining in this debate, but I agree with comment above -

You can't build a team around Earnie and you can't ask him to play a tactical role, but you can say 'score me 25 goals this season' and he will deliver.

He is a goal scorer full stop and will deliver goals in any kind of team who play any kind of system, but you have to accept the other deficiencies in his game to get it.

We all know that Earnie is not the most skilful player, and doesn't have the best touch. But he does score goals, and I think this is mainly because he's very good at getting himself into the right positions to score goals (like a goalhanger would). Even if he still fks up opportunities sometimes, he gets a lot more opportunities, so on a percentage basis, he is likely to get goals. So the question comes down to - do you want a striker who can play attractive football, but scores maybe once every 3 games, or a player who will more than likely get you a goal in every 2 games?

As well as that, of course we also all know about Earnie's fantastic career stats. We also know he's been harshly treated, by various clubs, and particularly in internationals. There has been many a time when people have been begging managers to send him on. I think it's a real shame that it looks like his hometown club is also now going to treat him badly, having done the right thing and brought him back. Bear in mind, he is also a big draw amongst home supporters. I don't think there is another play who draws the same "oohs" and "aahs" amongst supporters in the stadium. And think back to when he first left Cardiff for WBA - people were going to pubs to watch WBA just to watch Earnie play! We have not had a player who was that popular since - I don't think you would find as many people going to watch even Ramsey play for Arsenal, despite him arguably being a more skilful player.

On the other board, I suggested that bringing Earnie on in the Palace away game was an obvious substitution, but criticised by people saying that he would have disrupted the midfield, blah blah blah. Basically, they were trying to discuss football as if it's a science. Personally, I still like to think of it as the beautiful game, and though not technically a great footballer, I still think Earnie can bring magic into any game he plays in.

Bit late joining in this debate, but I agree with comment above -

You can't build a team around Earnie and you can't ask him to play a tactical role, but you can say 'score me 25 goals this season' and he will deliver.

He is a goal scorer full stop and will deliver goals in any kind of team who play any kind of system, but you have to accept the other deficiencies in his game to get it.

We all know that Earnie is not the most skilful player, and doesn't have the best touch. But he does score goals, and I think this is mainly because he's very good at getting himself into the right positions to score goals (like a goalhanger would). Even if he still fks up opportunities sometimes, he gets a lot more opportunities, so on a percentage basis, he is likely to get goals. So the question comes down to - do you want a striker who can play attractive football, but scores maybe once every 3 games, or a player who will more than likely get you a goal in every 2 games?

As well as that, of course we also all know about Earnie's fantastic career stats. We also know he's been harshly treated, by various clubs, and particularly in internationals. There has been many a time when people have been begging managers to send him on. I think it's a real shame that it looks like his hometown club is also now going to treat him badly, having done the right thing and brought him back. Bear in mind, he is also a big draw amongst home supporters. I don't think there is another play who draws the same "oohs" and "aahs" amongst supporters in the stadium. And think back to when he first left Cardiff for WBA - people were going to pubs to watch WBA just to watch Earnie play! We have not had a player who was that popular since - I don't think you would find as many people going to watch even Ramsey play for Arsenal, despite him arguably being a more skilful player.

On the other board, I suggested that bringing Earnie on in the Palace away game was an obvious substitution, but criticised by people saying that he would have disrupted the midfield, blah blah blah. Basically, they were trying to discuss football as if it's a science. Personally, I still like to think of it as the beautiful game, and though not technically a great footballer, I still think Earnie can bring magic into any game he plays in.

Great post.

I believe Earnie could of been our superb sub/secret weapon v Palace and Doncaster, we had no one else.

One other thing I should mention in addition to above is that it's worth bearing in mind how Earnie has been used as a player by other clubs, and I think it's quite likely, despite it arguably not being the best treatment, that he may still be used in the same way.

And that is, a sort of stop-start approach. Forest did this with him a lot. He might not play for about 10 games. Then he'd get a string of about 10 consecutive starts, during which time he would get a good number of goals.

Maybe some clubs have just found this is the best way to get the best out of him? It could be he needs the break to get more hungry to get goals, so when he does come back, he will be absolutely sure to knock a few in? Don't know the answer, but if we don't sell him, which I hope we don't, I can see him still having a run in the first team, say between about February - March and scoring a good number of potentially useful goals.

annis he told me on sat after the donny game he was injured

Bit late joining in this debate, but I agree with comment above -

You can't build a team around Earnie and you can't ask him to play a tactical role, but you can say 'score me 25 goals this season' and he will deliver.

He is a goal scorer full stop and will deliver goals in any kind of team who play any kind of system, but you have to accept the other deficiencies in his game to get it.

We all know that Earnie is not the most skilful player, and doesn't have the best touch. But he does score goals, and I think this is mainly because he's very good at getting himself into the right positions to score goals (like a goalhanger would). Even if he still fks up opportunities sometimes, he gets a lot more opportunities, so on a percentage basis, he is likely to get goals. So the question comes down to - do you want a striker who can play attractive football, but scores maybe once every 3 games, or a player who will more than likely get you a goal in every 2 games?

As well as that, of course we also all know about Earnie's fantastic career stats. We also know he's been harshly treated, by various clubs, and particularly in internationals. There has been many a time when people have been begging managers to send him on. I think it's a real shame that it looks like his hometown club is also now going to treat him badly, having done the right thing and brought him back. Bear in mind, he is also a big draw amongst home supporters. I don't think there is another play who draws the same "oohs" and "aahs" amongst supporters in the stadium. And think back to when he first left Cardiff for WBA - people were going to pubs to watch WBA just to watch Earnie play! We have not had a player who was that popular since - I don't think you would find as many people going to watch even Ramsey play for Arsenal, despite him arguably being a more skilful player.

On the other board, I suggested that bringing Earnie on in the Palace away game was an obvious substitution, but criticised by people saying that he would have disrupted the midfield, blah blah blah. Basically, they were trying to discuss football as if it's a science. Personally, I still like to think of it as the beautiful game, and though not technically a great footballer, I still think Earnie can bring magic into any game he plays in.

Great post.

I believe Earnie could of been our superb sub/secret weapon v Palace and Doncaster, we had no one else.

Fully agree with that he could have had an impact on the game

People need to look at the facts.
If the clock hits 70 minutes and no team is in the lead then he can be a massive impact player.
The defence will be tired and Earnie will be willing to take on players in defence.
We seen Earnie trying to do it when he has started a game and it dosent work as the defence are full of energy.

Points at Milwall, Coventry could of been 3 points in them games if Earnie came off the bench imo.

People need to look at the facts.
If the clock hits 70 minutes and no team is in the lead then he can be a massive impact player.
The defence will be tired and Earnie will be willing to take on players in defence.
We seen Earnie trying to do it when he has started a game and it dosent work as the defence are full of energy.

Points at Milwall, Coventry could of been 3 points in them games if Earnie came off the bench imo.

and if your auntie had bollocks she would be your uncle.

then again you are from tredegar so chances are she may have bollocks, and a moustache.

Bit late joining in this debate, but I agree with comment above -

You can't build a team around Earnie and you can't ask him to play a tactical role, but you can say 'score me 25 goals this season' and he will deliver.

He is a goal scorer full stop and will deliver goals in any kind of team who play any kind of system, but you have to accept the other deficiencies in his game to get it.

We all know that Earnie is not the most skilful player, and doesn't have the best touch. But he does score goals, and I think this is mainly because he's very good at getting himself into the right positions to score goals (like a goalhanger would). Even if he still fks up opportunities sometimes, he gets a lot more opportunities, so on a percentage basis, he is likely to get goals. So the question comes down to - do you want a striker who can play attractive football, but scores maybe once every 3 games, or a player who will more than likely get you a goal in every 2 games?

As well as that, of course we also all know about Earnie's fantastic career stats. We also know he's been harshly treated, by various clubs, and particularly in internationals. There has been many a time when people have been begging managers to send him on. I think it's a real shame that it looks like his hometown club is also now going to treat him badly, having done the right thing and brought him back. Bear in mind, he is also a big draw amongst home supporters. I don't think there is another play who draws the same "oohs" and "aahs" amongst supporters in the stadium. And think back to when he first left Cardiff for WBA - people were going to pubs to watch WBA just to watch Earnie play! We have not had a player who was that popular since - I don't think you would find as many people going to watch even Ramsey play for Arsenal, despite him arguably being a more skilful player.

On the other board, I suggested that bringing Earnie on in the Palace away game was an obvious substitution, but criticised by people saying that he would have disrupted the midfield, blah blah blah. Basically, they were trying to discuss football as if it's a science. Personally, I still like to think of it as the beautiful game, and though not technically a great footballer, I still think Earnie can bring magic into any game he plays in.

How come this goal machine gets dropped at every club if he can guarantee 25 goals per season particularly at Derby where they paid a club record fee for him. Analyse his performances and you will see he goes for goals when a team mate is in a better position to do so, the stats a couple of years ago showed he had the most attempts at goal off target than any other player in the Championship by a long way. How many could his team have scored if he had passed the ball, how many can remember the barren spell of Peter Thorne who couldn't score, not because he missed them but the selfish attitude of his strike partner who provided him with almost all of his goals, there lies the reason he gets dropped along with the fact everybody recognises is his first touch is appalling. A guy on £13k a week who cant control a ball is like saying a carpenter is useless with a chisel