" JONES DEFENDS HIS CARDIFF CITY LEGACY "

I could write a lot but I can’t be arsed.,just like when we miss out on promotion under JIMMY SCHOLAR.It’s all history now.
If the dog hadn’t stopped to crap he would have won the race!

I think I've backed that dog at least a couple of times

Whatever his reasoning with the players we had he should have took us up.

As for messing up the FA Cup final I agree with the other guy in that we played well against a good Pompey side. After the final didn't they sell over 100m worth of players? Shows the gap in quality so to play so well.

Messing up the play/off final, yes and no, beaten by a better team in the end but better management could have won us that game. However it was top management to get us to that final. Remember we had players not being paid, protests at the chairman, hmrc at our door and under a transfer embargo for most of the season. Some games just Tiawo Rae and wildig to pick in midfield.

We all know Jones had his faults, one was he was too loyal and, had far to much trust certain players own personal discipline, maybe as someone said earlier that he was lazy, and did not go the extra mile, for the team or the fans, but lets not loose the fact that he did help build the club to where we are now, he may not lead us to the promise land but he certainly helped getting there when we finally do under Malky, we should pay some respect to Dave Jones, because we were a selling club and I believe still are a selling club.

We all know Jones had his faults, one was he was too loyal and, had far to much trust certain players own personal discipline, maybe as someone said earlier that he was lazy, and did not go the extra mile, for the team or the fans, but lets not loose the fact that he did help build the club to where we are now, he may not lead us to the promise land but he certainly helped getting there when we finally do under Malky, we should pay some respect to Dave Jones, because we were a selling club and I believe still are a selling club.

I am sorry but I wont pay any respect to him, he was the highest paid manager outside the Premier League and given the biggest budget for the last 4 years, any Cardiff City manager has ever had. He was lazy/arrogant/thought he knew it all/pig ignorant to many players and fans/had no respect for our Club. It took Jones five years to reach the play offs. He over spent on wages and he never won anything because he was a bottler, lost the dressing room, hardly attended training etc etc, I could write a book just on his years here and boy would it tell some stories. Jones never got on with fans/media/staff/players, the only thing he got on with was his golf club.
In my opinion Malky is already achieving more in his first 26 games, the Club is now close to its fans again.

We all know Jones had his faults, one was he was too loyal and, had far to much trust certain players own personal discipline, maybe as someone said earlier that he was lazy, and did not go the extra mile, for the team or the fans, but lets not loose the fact that he did help build the club to where we are now, he may not lead us to the promise land but he certainly helped getting there when we finally do under Malky, we should pay some respect to Dave Jones, because we were a selling club and I believe still are a selling club.

I am sorry but I wont pay any respect to him, he was the highest paid manager outside the Premier League and given the biggest budget for the last 4 years, any Cardiff City manager has ever had. He was lazy/arrogant/thought he knew it all/pig ignorant to many players and fans/had no respect for our Club. It took Jones five years to reach the play offs. He over spent on wages and he never won anything because he was a bottler, lost the dressing room, hardly attended training etc etc, I could write a book just on his years here and boy would it tell some stories. Jones never got on with fans/media/staff/players, the only thing he got on with was his golf club.
In my opinion Malky is already achieving more in his first 26 games, the Club is now close to its fans again.

Shouldn't we expect that the most recent manager had the biggest budget any manager has had considering we've been in the highest position in decades under DJ?

It's a bit of a non-statement saying highest budget ever considering we've spent so much of our history in the basements.

We all know Jones had his faults, one was he was too loyal and, had far to much trust certain players own personal discipline, maybe as someone said earlier that he was lazy, and did not go the extra mile, for the team or the fans, but lets not loose the fact that he did help build the club to where we are now, he may not lead us to the promise land but he certainly helped getting there when we finally do under Malky, we should pay some respect to Dave Jones, because we were a selling club and I believe still are a selling club.

I am sorry but I wont pay any respect to him, he was the highest paid manager outside the Premier League and given the biggest budget for the last 4 years, any Cardiff City manager has ever had. He was lazy/arrogant/thought he knew it all/pig ignorant to many players and fans/had no respect for our Club. It took Jones five years to reach the play offs. He over spent on wages and he never won anything because he was a bottler, lost the dressing room, hardly attended training etc etc, I could write a book just on his years here and boy would it tell some stories. Jones never got on with fans/media/staff/players, the only thing he got on with was his golf club.
In my opinion Malky is already achieving more in his first 26 games, the Club is now close to its fans again.

Shouldn't we expect that the most recent manager had the biggest budget any manager has had considering we've been in the highest position in decades under DJ?

It's a bit of a non-statement saying highest budget ever considering we've spent so much of our history in the basements.

If we had not been paying of DJ and co, Malkys budget is no where near Jones budget.

We all know Jones had his faults, one was he was too loyal and, had far to much trust certain players own personal discipline, maybe as someone said earlier that he was lazy, and did not go the extra mile, for the team or the fans, but lets not loose the fact that he did help build the club to where we are now, he may not lead us to the promise land but he certainly helped getting there when we finally do under Malky, we should pay some respect to Dave Jones, because we were a selling club and I believe still are a selling club.

I am sorry but I wont pay any respect to him, he was the highest paid manager outside the Premier League and given the biggest budget for the last 4 years, any Cardiff City manager has ever had. He was lazy/arrogant/thought he knew it all/pig ignorant to many players and fans/had no respect for our Club. It took Jones five years to reach the play offs. He over spent on wages and he never won anything because he was a bottler, lost the dressing room, hardly attended training etc etc, I could write a book just on his years here and boy would it tell some stories. Jones never got on with fans/media/staff/players, the only thing he got on with was his golf club.
In my opinion Malky is already achieving more in his first 26 games, the Club is now close to its fans again.

Shouldn't we expect that the most recent manager had the biggest budget any manager has had considering we've been in the highest position in decades under DJ?

It's a bit of a non-statement saying highest budget ever considering we've spent so much of our history in the basements.

What you are failing to see is that through our history DJ has been given a lot more to work with than any other manager we have had. DJ moaned about not having this or that and having to give away this and that. So what happened? He was given this and that and he still got us nowhere. Why can't people like you see this?

We all know Jones had his faults, one was he was too loyal and, had far to much trust certain players own personal discipline, maybe as someone said earlier that he was lazy, and did not go the extra mile, for the team or the fans, but lets not loose the fact that he did help build the club to where we are now, he may not lead us to the promise land but he certainly helped getting there when we finally do under Malky, we should pay some respect to Dave Jones, because we were a selling club and I believe still are a selling club.

I am sorry but I wont pay any respect to him, he was the highest paid manager outside the Premier League and given the biggest budget for the last 4 years, any Cardiff City manager has ever had. He was lazy/arrogant/thought he knew it all/pig ignorant to many players and fans/had no respect for our Club. It took Jones five years to reach the play offs. He over spent on wages and he never won anything because he was a bottler, lost the dressing room, hardly attended training etc etc, I could write a book just on his years here and boy would it tell some stories. Jones never got on with fans/media/staff/players, the only thing he got on with was his golf club.
In my opinion Malky is already achieving more in his first 26 games, the Club is now close to its fans again.

Shouldn't we expect that the most recent manager had the biggest budget any manager has had considering we've been in the highest position in decades under DJ?

It's a bit of a non-statement saying highest budget ever considering we've spent so much of our history in the basements.

What you are failing to see is that through our history DJ has been given a lot more to work with than any other manager we have had. DJ moaned about not having this or that and having to give away this and that. So what happened? He was given this and that and he still got us nowhere. Why can't people like you see this?

Just because it was Cardiff's biggest budget doesn't mean it was a budget that was enough to get out of the championship.

You seem to forget he had to sell a player a a season to keep us going. No manager is going to do well if he has to keep selling his star players. Add to the fact he couldn't afford to tie down players to long term contracts so every year he had to replace half the team you can see why he had trouble.

Especially compared to what he had at Wolves when he took them up to the premiership where he did take them up.

And also you keep bringing up the fact that he had more than any other manager but has any other manager taken us to the premiership? Not yet so that statement in itself means nothing.

Are you real?

So who did he lose last season? Oh yes Ledley. Lets forget he had managed ot keep hold of everyone else from the team that got to the play off final. Lets forget he was allowed to bring in premiership players like Oli. Let us forget abot Bellamy as well.

Lets go back a bit shall we. Each year he had to get rid of ONE player....Ramsey.....Loovens.....Johnson. Tell me doe sone man make a team?

Some people need a rocket up their arse.

Are you real?

So who did he lose last season? Oh yes Ledley. Lets forget he had managed ot keep hold of everyone else from the team that got to the play off final. Lets forget he was allowed to bring in premiership players like Oli. Let us forget abot Bellamy as well.

Lets go back a bit shall we. Each year he had to get rid of ONE player....Ramsey.....Loovens.....Johnson. Tell me doe sone man make a team?

Some people need a rocket up their arse.

Because I disagree with you I need a rocket up my arse?

Great argument there :/

In short if Dave Jones had been on Malky's wages i would of said he had done a fantastic Job. But and its a big BUT Dave Jones was the highest paid Manager out of the Premiership and by no means not the worst paid Manager in the Premier. So with that, you are paying for success. Did he deliver ? FA Cup final !!!!!!! No one remembers the runners up so yes he failed. He didn't for 4 years i believe, not achieve the Play offs !!!! Massive FAIL !! When he did get us to the final it was a massive FAIL.
And then in his final year he got us into the play offs With the best squad in the league, and then died an embarrassing death against Reading !! A massive massive failure. He left the Club with not enough players to name a single full eleven side, Massive and total failure, and to make it worse he is the highest paid out of a Job manager in the history of the game. A waste of space time and the effort, and on my fingers to type this post. Dave Jones you have achieved f**k all at our Club now stop sponging off us and get another Mug Club to employ you.
Now that's better now i have that off my Chest

Are you real?

So who did he lose last season? Oh yes Ledley. Lets forget he had managed ot keep hold of everyone else from the team that got to the play off final. Lets forget he was allowed to bring in premiership players like Oli. Let us forget abot Bellamy as well.

Lets go back a bit shall we. Each year he had to get rid of ONE player....Ramsey.....Loovens.....Johnson. Tell me doe sone man make a team?

Some people need a rocket up their arse.

Because I disagree with you I need a rocket up my arse?

Great argument there :/

Nope not becuase you disagree with me but for the fact you think Dave Jones did a good job. He turned out a massive failure, why can't people like you see that?

In short if Dave Jones had been on Malky's wages i would of said he had done a fantastic Job. But and its a big BUT Dave Jones was the highest paid Manager out of the Premiership and by no means not the worst paid Manager in the Premier. So with that, you are paying for success. Did he deliver ? FA Cup final !!!!!!! No one remembers the runners up so yes he failed. He didn't for 4 years i believe, not achieve the Play offs !!!! Massive FAIL !! When he did get us to the final it was a massive FAIL.
And then in his final year he got us into the play offs With the best squad in the league, and then died an embarrassing death against Reading !! A massive massive failure. He left the Club with not enough players to name a single full eleven side, Massive and total failure, and to make it worse he is the highest paid out of a Job manager in the history of the game. A waste of space time and the effort, and on my fingers to type this post. Dave Jones you have achieved f**k all at our Club now stop sponging off us and get another Mug Club to employ you.
Now that's better now i have that off my Chest

Lets not forget he was a miserable tw*t through it all as well.

In short if Dave Jones had been on Malky's wages i would of said he had done a fantastic Job. But and its a big BUT Dave Jones was the highest paid Manager out of the Premiership and by no means not the worst paid Manager in the Premier. So with that, you are paying for success. Did he deliver ? FA Cup final !!!!!!! No one remembers the runners up so yes he failed. He didn't for 4 years i believe, not achieve the Play offs !!!! Massive FAIL !! When he did get us to the final it was a massive FAIL.
And then in his final year he got us into the play offs With the best squad in the league, and then died an embarrassing death against Reading !! A massive massive failure. He left the Club with not enough players to name a single full eleven side, Massive and total failure, and to make it worse he is the highest paid out of a Job manager in the history of the game. A waste of space time and the effort, and on my fingers to type this post. Dave Jones you have achieved f**k all at our Club now stop sponging off us and get another Mug Club to employ you.
Now that's better now i have that off my Chest

Lets not forget he was a miserable tw*t through it all as well.

Sorry Ian i can't remember everything

Are you real?

So who did he lose last season? Oh yes Ledley. Lets forget he had managed ot keep hold of everyone else from the team that got to the play off final. Lets forget he was allowed to bring in premiership players like Oli. Let us forget abot Bellamy as well.

Lets go back a bit shall we. Each year he had to get rid of ONE player....Ramsey.....Loovens.....Johnson. Tell me doe sone man make a team?

Some people need a rocket up their arse.

Because I disagree with you I need a rocket up my arse?

Great argument there :/

Nope not becuase you disagree with me but for the fact you think Dave Jones did a good job. He turned out a massive failure, why can't people like you see that?

Because he wasn't a massive failure.


He wasn't an absolute success but there were definitely good spots under his stewardship.

The FA Cup final for one thing. That was brilliant. Regardless of the fact that we had a relatively easy run up to the final you can only play the teams you draw and it's perfectly respectable to go out against a Pompey team that was one of the best teams in the premiership outside the top 4 that year.

The Play off final was great. Sadly it didn't come off but there can only ever be one winner of a play off and it's not just Jones' fault that Blackpool were just the better team.

Last year I'll give you it was a big failure considering what had been hyped up but we can't judge his entire career at cardiff on one spectacular mistake.

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Aramore wrote
fault that Blackpool were just the better team.


Hmm, Have a good think about that statement please.

Aramore wrote
fault that Blackpool were just the better team.


Hmm, Have a good think about that statement please.

I'll be honest I can't remember who was even in that Blackpool team

Aramore wrote
fault that Blackpool were just the better team.


Hmm, Have a good think about that statement please.

Annis they were the best motivated teams out of the two, and best organised. And they deservedly brushed aside out team of Bottlers, oh and Manager

FFS...the FA cup final....you have just said it, we had a lucky passage. Lucky being the operative word.

The play off final, total joke from start to finish, Wake up will you.

Thanks for agreeing with me on last season........So let me remind you....what did DJ say when he fist came to us....if you can't get a club promoted within the first 3 years you should resign.......6 years later we are still where we are when he first came.....and he still takes a wage from us.......and now he is trying to glorify himself......he said when comentating at West Ham that he is in a profession wher ehe need ot wait until someone gets sacked before he can get a job. Well there have bbeen enough sacking but he is still out of a job, why because is is a massive failure and no one wants him.

FFS some people need to wake up.....where is that rocket.