Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:28 am
jinks-rct wrote:2blue2handle wrote:jinks-rct wrote:if we had gone into admin that rogue hammam would have been back again with his circus
Sam wouldn't have got a penny, he isn't even a secured creditor.
no but the slimey git would no doubt try and buy the club of the administrators
Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:35 am
Bakedalasker wrote:jinks-rct wrote:2blue2handle wrote:jinks-rct wrote:if we had gone into admin that rogue hammam would have been back again with his circus
Sam wouldn't have got a penny, he isn't even a secured creditor.
no but the slimey git would no doubt try and buy the club of the administrators
Uh his debt might be unsecured but it is still a debt against the club. Sam could quite easily offer to take the club on as an ongoing concern and the administrators would jump at that offer.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:41 am
2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:jinks-rct wrote:2blue2handle wrote:jinks-rct wrote:if we had gone into admin that rogue hammam would have been back again with his circus
Sam wouldn't have got a penny, he isn't even a secured creditor.
no but the slimey git would no doubt try and buy the club of the administrators
Uh his debt might be unsecured but it is still a debt against the club. Sam could quite easily offer to take the club on as an ongoing concern and the administrators would jump at that offer.
Wouldn't he have to get other debtors to agree to that ? With others getting paid before him?
As for the squad being worth more now, that was obviously going to happen but I would say miller is dead money now. Turner certainly not worth anymore than we paid yet.
Cowie and Conway good assets but a former manager was always going to bring free targets with him.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:42 am
Natman Blue wrote:People are trying to cast serious doubts over the commitment VT and TG to Cardiff City and whether they are here to stay. This was my response and I've been asked to post it separately for it to become a sticky;
What... the Malaysian investors who aren't spending money but completely rebuilt the squad during the summer.
The Malaysian investors who are here for the short term but built a long term youth development programme in Malaysia under he name of Cardiff City.
The Malaysian owners who are wise, experienced business men who have tried to make the club develop in a sustainable fashion (a la Fulham) rather than throw money at us.
The Malaysian owners who haven't sold us on to other investors when our financial state is better than some other clubs in the division and the one below but wants to turn us into a sustainable top 4 Premier league side.
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the club but have sorted out all long term and historical debt apart from Langstone.
The Malaysian owners who don't own all of the club but are expected to put in all of the money for transfer fees and debts
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the football but have just purchased the glow lamps to keep the pitch top notch during the winter months.
The Malaysian owners who 'aren't football me' but have supported Malky in revamping the back room staff as well as the on field staff.
The Malaysian owners who have supported Malky in developing an extensive scouting Network
The Malaysian owners who are still subsidising DJ's wages when the easiest option would have been to keep him on rather than appoint a bright new up and coming manager.
These guys really don't care, haven't invested and have no long term vision or plans for club
Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:49 am
Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:36 am
Midfield general wrote:Natman Blue wrote:People are trying to cast serious doubts over the commitment VT and TG to Cardiff City and whether they are here to stay. This was my response and I've been asked to post it separately for it to become a sticky;
What... the Malaysian investors who aren't spending money but completely rebuilt the squad during the summer. more money was saved then spent as players on higher wages left the club
The Malaysian investors who are here for the short term but built a long term youth development programme in Malaysia under he name of Cardiff City. only to help attract other investors from the Far East to buy the club at a later date
The Malaysian owners who are wise, experienced business men who have tried to make the club develop in a sustainable fashion (a la Fulham) rather than throw money at us. The same can be said for the former QPR owners
The Malaysian owners who haven't sold us on to other investors when our financial state is better than some other clubs in the division and the one below but wants to turn us into a sustainable top 4 Premier league side. all talk and no action
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the club but have sorted out all long term and historical debt apart from Langstone. not a single penny has been paid to langstone
The Malaysian owners who don't own all of the club but are expected to put in all of the money for transfer fees and debts they knew the situation before buying into the business and knew the situation before buying more shares of the business
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the football but have just purchased the glow lamps to keep the pitch top notch during the winter months. sorry but surely the rugby club would have also put money to the purchase and we are talking very small figures in this issue
The Malaysian owners who 'aren't football me' but have supported Malky in revamping the back room staff as well as the on field staff. probably on less than what the former back room staff were on so saving more
The Malaysian owners who have supported Malky in developing an extensive scouting Network same answer to the former response
The Malaysian owners who are still subsidising DJ's wages when the easiest option would have been to keep him on rather than appoint a bright new up and coming manager. if they kept Jones for longer attendances would have dropped even more
These guys really don't care, haven't invested and have no long term vision or plans for club no investment whatsoever just spending monies which have been saved
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:10 am
Welshpaul wrote:Brill post. The people who say they ain't backing Malky should realise the damage they may be doing.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:24 am
Forever Blue wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Brill post. The people who say they ain't backing Malky should realise the damage they may be doing.
Good post by Natman, but Paul, I am allowed my opinion and my opinion is they are not backing Malky, how is that damaging our club saying how I feel ? I stood my ground regarding Dave Jones and the Riddler, I got slagged down then, but later proved right, but no one then says anything.
Lets hope I was wrong and this squad without strengthening, stays in the top 6 come January
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:27 am
NIBluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Welshpaul wrote:Brill post. The people who say they ain't backing Malky should realise the damage they may be doing.
Good post by Natman, but Paul, I am allowed my opinion and my opinion is they are not backing Malky, how is that damaging our club saying how I feel ? I stood my ground regarding Dave Jones and the Riddler, I got slagged down then, but later proved right, but no one then says anything.
Lets hope I was wrong and this squad without strengthening, stays in the top 6 come January
But whats to say we will get funds then - think it was obvious no-one was coming in this transfer window ...........
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:46 am
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:54 am
Martyn1963 wrote:Id like to know exactly what VT & TG said to Craig Bellamy back in May too ?
Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:37 am
Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:51 am
Martyn1963 wrote:Id like to know exactly what VT & TG said to Craig Bellamy back in May too ?
Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:05 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:09 pm
boxerbob wrote:Why do you keep calling people plastic all the time?im a st holder,but i wouldnt call people plastic just because they live too far away or maybe finances are a bit too tight to go to games.If they support cardiff city in any capacity they're fan no less than you or myself.Get a life
Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:17 pm
Midfield general wrote:boxerbob wrote:Why do you keep calling people plastic all the time?im a st holder,but i wouldnt call people plastic just because they live too far away or maybe finances are a bit too tight to go to games.If they support cardiff city in any capacity they're fan no less than you or myself.Get a life
Ah right I got you, so I can be threatened, verbally abused and so on yet when I return a comment like plastic then I need to get a life..? Typical of this board.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:23 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:32 pm
Midfield general wrote:boxerbob wrote:Why do you keep calling people plastic all the time?im a st holder,but i wouldnt call people plastic just because they live too far away or maybe finances are a bit too tight to go to games.If they support cardiff city in any capacity they're fan no less than you or myself.Get a life
Ah right I got you, so I can be threatened, verbally abused and so on yet when I return a comment like plastic then I need to get a life..? Typical of this board.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:44 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:09 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:i assume by banner, you mean banter. If you read my post it was riddled with question marks, meaning i was asking a question. Why, if i did take this "banner" seriously, would that call for me to take a long hard look at myself?
Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:22 pm
Midfield general wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:i assume by banner, you mean banter. If you read my post it was riddled with question marks, meaning i was asking a question. Why, if i did take this "banner" seriously, would that call for me to take a long hard look at myself?
quoting ourselves??? is this some sort of strange Merthyr game
the banter was between Polo and myself
Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:45 pm
Natman Blue wrote:People are trying to cast serious doubts over the commitment VT and TG to Cardiff City and whether they are here to stay. This was my response and I've been asked to post it separately for it to become a sticky;
What... the Malaysian investors who aren't spending money but completely rebuilt the squad during the summer.
The Malaysian investors who are here for the short term but built a long term youth development programme in Malaysia under he name of Cardiff City.
The Malaysian owners who are wise, experienced business men who have tried to make the club develop in a sustainable fashion (a la Fulham) rather than throw money at us.
The Malaysian owners who haven't sold us on to other investors when our financial state is better than some other clubs in the division and the one below but wants to turn us into a sustainable top 4 Premier league side.
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the club but have sorted out all long term and historical debt apart from Langstone.
The Malaysian owners who don't own all of the club but are expected to put in all of the money for transfer fees and debts
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the football but have just purchased the glow lamps to keep the pitch top notch during the winter months.
The Malaysian owners who 'aren't football me' but have supported Malky in revamping the back room staff as well as the on field staff.
The Malaysian owners who have supported Malky in developing an extensive scouting Network
The Malaysian owners who are still subsidising DJ's wages when the easiest option would have been to keep him on rather than appoint a bright new up and coming manager.
These guys really don't care, haven't invested and have no long term vision or plans for club
Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:46 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:47 pm
Merlin wrote:Like some one mentioned, we lost in PO Final to Blackpool, people thought they'd do a runner, We then lost another opportunity against Reading. Still they remained, Have interesting meeting with Bellamy, sack Jones, bring in a potentially top manager, who rebuilds team and instils immense team spirit and re-united the fans with the club in a way Jones hasn't managed in the 6yrs he was here. Haven't they invested almost £23m since their arrival? (that was a figure I heard banded about and not a factual figure!)
Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:19 pm
Midfield general wrote:Natman Blue wrote:People are trying to cast serious doubts over the commitment VT and TG to Cardiff City and whether they are here to stay. This was my response and I've been asked to post it separately for it to become a sticky;
What... the Malaysian investors who aren't spending money but completely rebuilt the squad during the summer. more money was saved then spent as players on higher wages left the club
The Malaysian investors who are here for the short term but built a long term youth development programme in Malaysia under he name of Cardiff City. only to help attract other investors from the Far East to buy the club at a later date
The Malaysian owners who are wise, experienced business men who have tried to make the club develop in a sustainable fashion (a la Fulham) rather than throw money at us. The same can be said for the former QPR owners
The Malaysian owners who haven't sold us on to other investors when our financial state is better than some other clubs in the division and the one below but wants to turn us into a sustainable top 4 Premier league side. all talk and no action
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the club but have sorted out all long term and historical debt apart from Langstone. not a single penny has been paid to langstone
The Malaysian owners who don't own all of the club but are expected to put in all of the money for transfer fees and debts they knew the situation before buying into the business and knew the situation before buying more shares of the business
The Malaysian owners who don't care about the football but have just purchased the glow lamps to keep the pitch top notch during the winter months. sorry but surely the rugby club would have also put money to the purchase and we are talking very small figures in this issue
The Malaysian owners who 'aren't football me' but have supported Malky in revamping the back room staff as well as the on field staff. probably on less than what the former back room staff were on so saving more
The Malaysian owners who have supported Malky in developing an extensive scouting Network same answer to the former response
The Malaysian owners who are still subsidising DJ's wages when the easiest option would have been to keep him on rather than appoint a bright new up and coming manager. if they kept Jones for longer attendances would have dropped even more
These guys really don't care, haven't invested and have no long term vision or plans for club no investment whatsoever just spending monies which have been saved
Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:22 pm
Merlin wrote:Like some one mentioned, we lost in PO Final to Blackpool, people thought they'd do a runner, We then lost another opportunity against Reading. Still they remained, Have interesting meeting with Bellamy, sack Jones, bring in a potentially top manager, who rebuilds team and instils immense team spirit and re-united the fans with the club in a way Jones hasn't managed in the 6yrs he was here. Haven't they invested almost £23m since their arrival? (that was a figure I heard banded about and not a factual figure!)
Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:59 pm
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:09 pm
polo wrote:Taffy apple-woman jumping to the wrong conclusion without finding out the facts yet accuses MG of the same last nite wen point scoring over a very sensitive matter
MG is not Daya but what does the truth matter when theres a good witchhunt to be had.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:12 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:polo wrote:Taffy apple-woman jumping to the wrong conclusion without finding out the facts yet accuses MG of the same last nite wen point scoring over a very sensitive matter
MG is not Daya but what does the truth matter when theres a good witchhunt to be had.
Over the years I have grown extremely tried with the 'are you Daya remarks' which have appeared on many CCFC message boards and are usually leveled at anyone who has a different opinion.
From what I know Midfield General is Adam Brown the polotician guy from Merthyr, whilst Daya sells pine furniture supports West Ham and is a cockney.
I don't agree with a lot of things Adam Brown says, but he has a perfect right to say them without being accused of being a cockney wanker.
Just play another tune boys, because this one is getting boring.
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:28 pm
polo wrote:Taffy apple-woman jumping to the wrong conclusion without finding out the facts yet accuses MG of the same last nite wen point scoring over a very sensitive matter
MG is not Daya but what does the truth matter when theres a good witchhunt to be had.