" SAVING MONEY BUT "

BUT THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN REINVESTED BACK INTO THE SQUAD

I reckon we have saved anything up to £15,000/£20,000 every week, loaning out the number of players we have including Parkin, Keinan, Wildig, Jarvis and Farah.

We needed more players, Malky wanted more players but why has he not been able to get them.

Opinions please.



I back Malky 100% and will continue to do so.

Those players haven't got that close to the squad so far this season so would have no reason to expect they would over the gap between here and January (only a few weeks away). More money saved, more money available come January when the real push begins

Nat, I hope your right and we def get them come January, just wondering why this week, Malky stated " If we want promotion this squad needs strengthening" funny time to say it.
But personally I say it needs strengthening now as, Winter is here, injuries and suspensions ahead.

He didn't say when he would strengthen. Long term plans rather than short term decisions and fixes!!!

Nobody is knocking CCFC or Malky at all but just being realistic , yes Cardiff are 3rd in the league and playing well but history tells us that clubs with smaller squads simply cannot sustain a promotion challenge into the new year . Malky knows it , we know but ( infact we've witnessed it for a few seasons ) it seems the money men at CCFC dont ! The players loaned out all will be back at the end of Dec which means the wage bill again goes up and yes OK these players will add in numbers to the squad but the quality just simply isnt there , so unless there are 1 or 2 loanees or 1 or 2 permanent signings in the Jan window I feel Cardiff will slip put of the top 6 come March . Add some quality into this current squad and we will defo be in the play offs come end of April

I just dont think the right players are available, I havent seen any players loaned out that I would have wanted at City.
If I thought we needed a striker I would have liked Fortune but I dont think we do.
I do think a wide player would be useful however I havent seen anyone like we need available.

Alternatively maybe MM wants to keep the budget for January, we all know how costly loans are especially when trying to get something done at the last minute.

How someone above can say Tan has lost interest when he has is paying two managers and a new set of backroom staff and invested in the playing squad earlier in the season

this is exactly right
malky could not get the players he had targeted in to the club.
there is no point in bringing in players who dont add anything to the current squad and he will have to try again in january when significantly the league cup will have moved on another stage.

Hopefully it's a case of malky feeling that the right type of player not being available rather than him not being backed by the board. Sadly I believe the latter is true!!

Spot on.

Disappointing to say the least!
Malky must be screwing!
The board may of looked at it that at 3rd place n playing well why upset the apple cart but they must be stupid and we are probably a bit of a laughing stock ATM!

Disappointing day & outcome!
Only the board know why??

Malky has now gone for 9 different players in the last 5 weeks and sadly we ended up with none.

I back Malky 100% and will continue to do so.

if we have gone for 9 players, then surely that indicates he's being backed. he wont go looking for players with out the owners say so. always something to moan about on here.

Hopefully it's a case of malky feeling that the right type of player not being available rather than him not being backed by the board. Sadly I believe the latter is true!!

Spot on.

Disappointing to say the least!
Malky must be screwing!
The board may of looked at it that at 3rd place n playing well why upset the apple cart but they must be stupid and we are probably a bit of a laughing stock ATM!

Disappointing day & outcome!
Only the board know why??

Malky has now gone for 9 different players in the last 5 weeks and sadly we ended up with none.

I back Malky 100% and will continue to do so.

if we have gone for 9 players, then surely that indicates he's being backed. he wont go looking for players with out the owners say so. always something to moan about on here.

How does it ? Malky has enquired about them and tried to get them, but money talks.

Hopefully it's a case of malky feeling that the right type of player not being available rather than him not being backed by the board. Sadly I believe the latter is true!!

Spot on.

Disappointing to say the least!
Malky must be screwing!
The board may of looked at it that at 3rd place n playing well why upset the apple cart but they must be stupid and we are probably a bit of a laughing stock ATM!

Disappointing day & outcome!
Only the board know why??

Malky has now gone for 9 different players in the last 5 weeks and sadly we ended up with none.

I back Malky 100% and will continue to do so.

if we have gone for 9 players, then surely that indicates he's being backed. he wont go looking for players with out the owners say so. always something to moan about on here.

How does it ? Malky has enquired about them and tried to get them, but money talks.

so he's approached players without getting the blessing of the owners first? seems a bit daft to me.

Hopefully it's a case of malky feeling that the right type of player not being available rather than him not being backed by the board. Sadly I believe the latter is true!!

Spot on.

Disappointing to say the least!
Malky must be screwing!
The board may of looked at it that at 3rd place n playing well why upset the apple cart but they must be stupid and we are probably a bit of a laughing stock ATM!

Disappointing day & outcome!
Only the board know why??

Malky has now gone for 9 different players in the last 5 weeks and sadly we ended up with none.

I back Malky 100% and will continue to do so.

if we have gone for 9 players, then surely that indicates he's being backed. he wont go looking for players with out the owners say so. always something to moan about on here.

How does it ? Malky has enquired about them and tried to get them, but money talks.

so he's approached players without getting the blessing of the owners first? seems a bit daft to me.

Malky can approach who he wants and has then tried to get them here cheaper, but as I have said, money talks. Without a doubt Malky has tried for new players.

People seem to forget that we still have a great team.

Yes-we need another striker and a quick wide player, but we have done pretty well with what we've got.

Would you break up a team that has gone 6 games unbeaten? Would you suddenly say to the existing players, thanks for winning, but we think we have somebody better?

I think the main problem that Malky has faced is that he can't promise anyone coming in regular first team football, as he does not want to disrupt a successful formula. Anyone who comes into the club now knows that they will have to wait their chance, and if you are a Premier player coming down, you want to be playing all the time.

I think that rumours about the board not backing him are wide of the mark.

Yes very happy so far, but winter is here, injuries/suspensions will come. Malky stated this week " I f we want promotion,this squad needs strengthening ".

Can see MM walking away if big club who are wiling to spend come in for him

Malky has already stated that he wont bring in players for the sake of it. it appears the club is leraning from the mistakes of last season in Koumas, Bywater, Samuel & Jet brought in on loan but contributed nothing

The window re-opens in January so it is hardly a crisis that we have not brought anyone in, If we were 3rd from bottom I'd be concerned but we are in the top 6 on a squad that has been rebuilt over the summer and in the quater finals of the Carling cup

Our squad has players that are versatile , Taylor, McNaughton,Gerrard, Cowie, Gunnarsson, Blake & Mason not forgetting we have McPhail Quinn & Naylor available with Rudy on his way back. Wildig & Farah have gone out for 1st team experience whilt it's obvious that Malky doesn't fancy Keinan or Parkin

I am quite pleased that the board has learnt from the mistakes of last season, lets wait until January and see what develops then. It should be noted that there was not much activity yesterday with teams in Championship

I think the point has been well and truely missed here as nobody is panicking and nobody wants average players brought in for the sake of it , Malky certainly doesnt or wont do that . The fact is Malky has said he needs to strenghten the team now and was talking to a player last week and this week who he defo wanted BUT for whatever reason an agreement couldnt be made . Maybe wages ??

I think the point has been well and truely missed here as nobody is panicking and nobody wants average players brought in for the sake of it , Malky certainly doesnt or wont do that . The fact is Malky has said he needs to strenghten the team now and was talking to a player last week and this week who he defo wanted BUT for whatever reason an agreement couldnt be made . Maybe wages ??

Good point Martyn.

I swear to God some people are just born stupid.

Nobody is knocking CCFC or Malky at all but just being realistic , yes Cardiff are 3rd in the league and playing well but history tells us that clubs with smaller squads simply cannot sustain a promotion challenge into the new year . Malky knows it , we know but ( infact we've witnessed it for a few seasons ) it seems the money men at CCFC dont ! The players loaned out all will be back at the end of Dec which means the wage bill again goes up and yes OK these players will add in numbers to the squad but the quality just simply isnt there , so unless there are 1 or 2 loanees or 1 or 2 permanent signings in the Jan window I feel Cardiff will slip put of the top 6 come March . Add some quality into this current squad and we will defo be in the play offs come end of April

Top Post. In the end we got what what most wished for and that Cardiff City living with-in their means and no more silly spending on players or wages . I think we're a top 10 Club that will be lucky to make the playoff's and I'll be happy with that. My only worry is will Whitts want to stay if he feels the Club has no serious ambition, if a Club higher up than us comes knocking

BUT THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN REINVESTED BACK INTO THE SQUAD

I reckon we have saved anything up to £15,000/£20,000 every week, loaning out the number of players we have including Parkin, Keinan, Wildig, Jarvis and Farah.

We needed more players, Malky wanted more players but why has he not been able to get them.

Opinions please.


Its Winter now and my worry is injuries and suspensions.


I back Malky 100% and will continue to do so.

Global economic meltdown is the reason why young Abraham.
The mega millions have gone out of UK football for the rest of our lifetimes.
Even Abramovich is finding it hard to get a few quid to spend on his hobbies these days.
Relax though, MM don't really need anymore players and If we can keep the squad fit and get the fans behind the team, we will get promoted
Bloo-armeee !

Annis,

Its not hard to notice you question our current board pretty much every day. You dont openly critisize but hint here and there that if we dont strengthen, it will be down to them that we dont go up.I dont have a problem with this, as I understand your reasoning.

I havnt been a fan as long as you, im only 22 and have been a ST holder for 12 years now. In those 12 years, the general feeling I get out of the club is that we are financially stable now than we ever have been. I think we all realize that the club is in debt, and slowly it is being addressed.

The way I see it is that the Malaysians invested a lot of money last year on high wages, fees on loans etc. Were they guided by Jones or did they take the Stoke promotion model from a few seasons ago? Whatever they did, it completely backfired as we know. I got the impression the owners thought promotion was in the bag with the likes of Bellamy, Koumas, Oli coming through the door. Therefore it has been a wake up call to them, that thinking so short term, most of the time doesnt work in this league. The result of all that was losing 12 players - many key squad members. We lost them for NOTHING to make matters worse.

With no transfer fees in, we then had to bring in 10. It seems Malky got the men he wanted, the board splashed £1.5M on Miller and Turner. The agent fees, signing on fees of free players is also well publisized as being rather pricey. We also seem to be looking after the youth more this season, Joe Ralls and co look very promising and give our squad a little more depth.

However, our senior squad is rather thin, but for now, I think this is how the owners and Malky imagined it would look like. We only have 1 loan member this season, that stat is so promising for the FUTURE. Yes, we are all a little dissapointed about not getting a loan in. However, what loan signings have you seen (apart from maybe Donaster who through that agent get players basically free) that you would say, "Yes he'l improve us". For me, just Kightly who is at Watford, and his injuries seem to be getting the better of him.

Maybe, just maybe, Malky and the owners believe that we can ride out December with the current squad, we may have to patch up a few on the way.

For me, the big transfer window that will define our season is January. Do we have a few permanent signings lined up? The fact of the matter is, none of us know. We have to wait and see with our fingers crossed.

Just be thankful that currently it seems our club is being run sensibly and patiently. We now seem to have a longer term vision judging by the players who have come in, we are no longer rolling a dice season after season.

All this talk that Malky isn't being backed is absolute garbage.

He was after players from top end premiership clubs but they were unwilling to release them. If it was purely cash reasons dont you think these players would've entered up elsewhere. Leicester, who appear to be spend whatever is required, couldn't get the players in they wanted yesterday for much the same reason.

I think people under estimate the amount of cash that has been invested behind the scenes to finally give the club a bit of structure. We've got a brand new scouting system of about 6/7 people who work exclusively for the club.

Chucking money on loan players who Malky doesnt feel will benefit the team just to appease a few fans isn't the way to go.

Annis,

Its not hard to notice you question our current board pretty much every day. You dont openly critisize but hint here and there that if we dont strengthen, it will be down to them that we dont go up.I dont have a problem with this, as I understand your reasoning.

I havnt been a fan as long as you, im only 22 and have been a ST holder for 12 years now. In those 12 years, the general feeling I get out of the club is that we are financially stable now than we ever have been. I think we all realize that the club is in debt, and slowly it is being addressed.

The way I see it is that the Malaysians invested a lot of money last year on high wages, fees on loans etc. Were they guided by Jones or did they take the Stoke promotion model from a few seasons ago? Whatever they did, it completely backfired as we know. I got the impression the owners thought promotion was in the bag with the likes of Bellamy, Koumas, Oli coming through the door. Therefore it has been a wake up call to them, that thinking so short term, most of the time doesnt work in this league. The result of all that was losing 12 players - many key squad members. We lost them for NOTHING to make matters worse.

With no transfer fees in, we then had to bring in 10. It seems Malky got the men he wanted, the board splashed £1.5M on Miller and Turner. The agent fees, signing on fees of free players is also well publisized as being rather pricey. We also seem to be looking after the youth more this season, Joe Ralls and co look very promising and give our squad a little more depth.

However, our senior squad is rather thin, but for now, I think this is how the owners and Malky imagined it would look like. We only have 1 loan member this season, that stat is so promising for the FUTURE. Yes, we are all a little dissapointed about not getting a loan in. However, what loan signings have you seen (apart from maybe Donaster who through that agent get players basically free) that you would say, "Yes he'l improve us". For me, just Kightly who is at Watford, and his injuries seem to be getting the better of him.

Maybe, just maybe, Malky and the owners believe that we can ride out December with the current squad, we may have to patch up a few on the way.

For me, the big transfer window that will define our season is January. Do we have a few permanent signings lined up? The fact of the matter is, none of us know. We have to wait and see with our fingers crossed.

Just be thankful that currently it seems our club is being run sensibly and patiently. We now seem to have a longer term vision judging by the players who have come in, we are no longer rolling a dice season after season.

Cheers for you post.

I am more than happy with how our current squad is playing and I am really enjoying my football for the first time in Years.
I do not want to see all the hard work Malky has put in go to waste, so thats why I harper on and on about getting more players in. Even Malky stated his squad needs strengthening. The winter is coming, injuries and suspensions usually come our way.
Yes Dave Jones did shall we get supported big time by them and they did follow and listen to the idiot.
Yes they have lent our club a lot of money and changed a lot of money they have lent in to shares.
I am worried why they have not sorted all our debts out, but I do not once again go down that debate again, I have debated it a thousand times.
I am more than happy with Malky and I support him 100%

Yes Dave Jones did shall we get supported big time by them and they did follow and listen to the idiot

I'm sorry I bet it was the Club idea to go down the Loans route , Most Managers would rather buy players even Jones.

I am more than happy with how our current squad is playing and I am really enjoying my football for the first time in Years

What you did't enjoy our FA cup run, the 2008/9 season. C'Mon Blue grow up and get over your grudge we had good years under Jones too.

so thats why I harper on and on about getting more players in

You say that and you more than most would go on about the wage bill and debt run up inthe old Cardiff . You wanted Cardiff to run and live with-in its means ...well...you've got exactly, what you wished for .

Like Rodney Marsh would say... "Be careful what you wish for"

Annis,

Its not hard to notice you question our current board pretty much every day. You dont openly critisize but hint here and there that if we dont strengthen, it will be down to them that we dont go up.I dont have a problem with this, as I understand your reasoning.

I havnt been a fan as long as you, im only 22 and have been a ST holder for 12 years now. In those 12 years, the general feeling I get out of the club is that we are financially stable now than we ever have been. I think we all realize that the club is in debt, and slowly it is being addressed.

The way I see it is that the Malaysians invested a lot of money last year on high wages, fees on loans etc. Were they guided by Jones or did they take the Stoke promotion model from a few seasons ago? Whatever they did, it completely backfired as we know. I got the impression the owners thought promotion was in the bag with the likes of Bellamy, Koumas, Oli coming through the door. Therefore it has been a wake up call to them, that thinking so short term, most of the time doesnt work in this league. The result of all that was losing 12 players - many key squad members. We lost them for NOTHING to make matters worse.

With no transfer fees in, we then had to bring in 10. It seems Malky got the men he wanted, the board splashed £1.5M on Miller and Turner. The agent fees, signing on fees of free players is also well publisized as being rather pricey. We also seem to be looking after the youth more this season, Joe Ralls and co look very promising and give our squad a little more depth.

However, our senior squad is rather thin, but for now, I think this is how the owners and Malky imagined it would look like. We only have 1 loan member this season, that stat is so promising for the FUTURE. Yes, we are all a little dissapointed about not getting a loan in. However, what loan signings have you seen (apart from maybe Donaster who through that agent get players basically free) that you would say, "Yes he'l improve us". For me, just Kightly who is at Watford, and his injuries seem to be getting the better of him.

Maybe, just maybe, Malky and the owners believe that we can ride out December with the current squad, we may have to patch up a few on the way.

For me, the big transfer window that will define our season is January. Do we have a few permanent signings lined up? The fact of the matter is, none of us know. We have to wait and see with our fingers crossed.

Just be thankful that currently it seems our club is being run sensibly and patiently. We now seem to have a longer term vision judging by the players who have come in, we are no longer rolling a dice season after season.

I usually ignore long posts but im glad i read this one. GREAT POST

Annis,

Its not hard to notice you question our current board pretty much every day. You dont openly critisize but hint here and there that if we dont strengthen, it will be down to them that we dont go up.I dont have a problem with this, as I understand your reasoning.

I havnt been a fan as long as you, im only 22 and have been a ST holder for 12 years now. In those 12 years, the general feeling I get out of the club is that we are financially stable now than we ever have been. I think we all realize that the club is in debt, and slowly it is being addressed.

The way I see it is that the Malaysians invested a lot of money last year on high wages, fees on loans etc. Were they guided by Jones or did they take the Stoke promotion model from a few seasons ago? Whatever they did, it completely backfired as we know. I got the impression the owners thought promotion was in the bag with the likes of Bellamy, Koumas, Oli coming through the door. Therefore it has been a wake up call to them, that thinking so short term, most of the time doesnt work in this league. The result of all that was losing 12 players - many key squad members. We lost them for NOTHING to make matters worse.

With no transfer fees in, we then had to bring in 10. It seems Malky got the men he wanted, the board splashed £1.5M on Miller and Turner. The agent fees, signing on fees of free players is also well publisized as being rather pricey. We also seem to be looking after the youth more this season, Joe Ralls and co look very promising and give our squad a little more depth.

However, our senior squad is rather thin, but for now, I think this is how the owners and Malky imagined it would look like. We only have 1 loan member this season, that stat is so promising for the FUTURE. Yes, we are all a little dissapointed about not getting a loan in. However, what loan signings have you seen (apart from maybe Donaster who through that agent get players basically free) that you would say, "Yes he'l improve us". For me, just Kightly who is at Watford, and his injuries seem to be getting the better of him.

Maybe, just maybe, Malky and the owners believe that we can ride out December with the current squad, we may have to patch up a few on the way.

For me, the big transfer window that will define our season is January. Do we have a few permanent signings lined up? The fact of the matter is, none of us know. We have to wait and see with our fingers crossed.

Just be thankful that currently it seems our club is being run sensibly and patiently. We now seem to have a longer term vision judging by the players who have come in, we are no longer rolling a dice season after season.

I usually ignore long posts but im glad i read this one. GREAT POST

What she said!

Yes Dave Jones did shall we get supported big time by them and they did follow and listen to the idiot

I'm sorry I bet it was the Club idea to go down the Loans route , Most Managers would rather buy players even Jones.

I am more than happy with how our current squad is playing and I am really enjoying my football for the first time in Years

What you did't enjoy our FA cup run, the 2008/9 season. C'Mon Blue grow up and get over your grudge we had good years under Jones too.

so thats why I harper on and on about getting more players in

You say that and you more than most would go on about the wage bill and debt run up inthe old Cardiff . You wanted Cardiff to run and live with-in its means ...well...you've got exactly, what you wished for .

Like Rodney Marsh would say... "Be careful what you wish for"

Lets shall I say, I always felt Dave Jones would fail at the end of every year, just look back to my time on here and ccmb, I never once said I felt he would win anything. I will never forget the final season at Ninian Park for the rest of my life, that b*stard ruined it for me, all those years there and he never gave a f**k for us. I am not going to go in to it again, but no I never really enjoyed any of his time here.

Annis,

Its not hard to notice you question our current board pretty much every day. You dont openly critisize but hint here and there that if we dont strengthen, it will be down to them that we dont go up.I dont have a problem with this, as I understand your reasoning.

I havnt been a fan as long as you, im only 22 and have been a ST holder for 12 years now. In those 12 years, the general feeling I get out of the club is that we are financially stable now than we ever have been. I think we all realize that the club is in debt, and slowly it is being addressed.

The way I see it is that the Malaysians invested a lot of money last year on high wages, fees on loans etc. Were they guided by Jones or did they take the Stoke promotion model from a few seasons ago? Whatever they did, it completely backfired as we know. I got the impression the owners thought promotion was in the bag with the likes of Bellamy, Koumas, Oli coming through the door. Therefore it has been a wake up call to them, that thinking so short term, most of the time doesnt work in this league. The result of all that was losing 12 players - many key squad members. We lost them for NOTHING to make matters worse.

With no transfer fees in, we then had to bring in 10. It seems Malky got the men he wanted, the board splashed £1.5M on Miller and Turner. The agent fees, signing on fees of free players is also well publisized as being rather pricey. We also seem to be looking after the youth more this season, Joe Ralls and co look very promising and give our squad a little more depth.

However, our senior squad is rather thin, but for now, I think this is how the owners and Malky imagined it would look like. We only have 1 loan member this season, that stat is so promising for the FUTURE. Yes, we are all a little dissapointed about not getting a loan in. However, what loan signings have you seen (apart from maybe Donaster who through that agent get players basically free) that you would say, "Yes he'l improve us". For me, just Kightly who is at Watford, and his injuries seem to be getting the better of him.

Maybe, just maybe, Malky and the owners believe that we can ride out December with the current squad, we may have to patch up a few on the way.

For me, the big transfer window that will define our season is January. Do we have a few permanent signings lined up? The fact of the matter is, none of us know. We have to wait and see with our fingers crossed.

Just be thankful that currently it seems our club is being run sensibly and patiently. We now seem to have a longer term vision judging by the players who have come in, we are no longer rolling a dice season after season.

I usually ignore long posts but im glad i read this one. GREAT POST

What she said!

Lets shall I say, I always felt Dave Jones would fail at the end of every year, just look back to my time on here and ccmb, I never once said I felt he would win anything. I will never forget the final season at Ninian Park for the rest of my life, that b*stard ruined it for me, all those years there and he never gave a f**k for us. I am not going to go in to it again, but no I never really enjoyed any of his time here.

You didn't enjoy seeing your own Team in a FA Cup final in your life time ? , Pull the other one. How many people ever get the chance to say they saw their own boy hood local team in a FA Cup Final, You didn't enjoy the play-off adventure , sure the end was a pisser, but getting there was great adventure .
You just got a sad pathetic little grudge, and if in 6 years time Malky doesn't take us to the Promised land , you 'll feel exactly the same about Malky I bet Watford fans would think Malky didn't give a f**k for them- any Manager that walks out on a Club and their Contract gets that, their Team seemed to run out of steam at the tail end of their season under Malky too . You need to get real grow up and get over your sad little grudge, its only a job at the end of the day .

Jones messed up and had to go, but he did a good job for a number of years

Lets shall I say, I always felt Dave Jones would fail at the end of every year, just look back to my time on here and ccmb, I never once said I felt he would win anything. I will never forget the final season at Ninian Park for the rest of my life, that b*stard ruined it for me, all those years there and he never gave a f**k for us. I am not going to go in to it again, but no I never really enjoyed any of his time here.

You didn't enjoy seeing your own Team in a FA Cup final in your life time ? , Pull the other one. How many people ever get the chance to say they saw their own boy hood local team in a FA Cup Final, You didn't enjoy the play-off adventure , sure the end was a pisser, but getting there was great adventure .
You just got a sad pathetic little grudge, and if in 6 years time Malky doesn't take us to the Promised land , you 'll feel exactly the same about Malky I bet Watford fans would think Malky didn't give a f**k for them- any Manager that walks out on a Club and their Contract gets that, their Team seemed to run out of steam at the tail end of their season under Malky too . You need to get real grow up and get over your sad little grudge, its only a job at the end of the day .

Jones messed up and had to go, but he did a good job for a number of years

you say jones done a good job but lets be real about it he had one the highest wage bills/budget in the league while he was here for 6years,whoever else was in charge if it wasnt jones would have done a half decent job also,He won nothing no-one remembers 2nd place or a maybe manager and jones has always been that from day one.FACTS DO NOT LIE.

you say jones done a good job but lets be real about it he had one the highest wage bills/budget in the league while he was here for 6years,whoever else was in charge if it wasnt jones would have done a half decent job also,He won nothing no-one remembers 2nd place or a maybe manager and jones has always been that from day one.FACTS DO NOT LIE.

I want to see facts on our Wage bill under Jones, if we listen to Carls update then our wage bill isn't any much higher or lower than Under Jones , and lets all remember why Jones was brought in to do a Job on the cheaper after the spend free day of Lennie Lawrence

nothing no-one remembers 2nd

I do and to say I watch my boy hood local Club Live in Wembley at the FA Cup Final is one of my greatest ever days and Malky hasn't won anything 'just' yet ...