Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:39 pm
Johnny Rythmn wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:I will be bringing a petition with me, for as many to sign as possible. As part of the massive Cuts they the Welsh assembly and Hospital bosses are planning on cutting the specialist Multiple Sclerosis Nurses back in Wales even though they are painfully understaffed now. Something like 1 Nurse to 300 MS patients as itb stands.This Country and i mean Britain let Millions of immagrants without any checks and then cut back on these Nurses because they have no money![]()
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So please sign it for me. Thanks in advance.
They've spent hundreds of billions of pounds and young mens lives on a war in Afghanistan.
They've creamed billions in fraudelent banking transactions and you think the cuts are down to a few pakis hopping in unchecked.
get a grip lad....anyway sign it for me as well
Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:44 pm
Bluetaf wrote:saddam wrote:i'm more than willing to sign it for you mate. like Lee said bring it with you to the ground if we don't see you before the game.
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I will sign it in the ground, know what it is like have a friend with MS
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:10 pm
I'm not disputing that New Labour were as tory as the Tories. I'm disputing that voting the Tories in (which you are suggesting) has helped at all.
As much as I despise all the main parties, it wasn't all their fault, corporations and bankers of this country need to take responsibility, they've been bleeding us dry for years
For f**k sake the Petition isn't for or against immigration it is solely to stop the Cuts to MS nurses
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:16 pm
smilebit wrote:I'm not disputing that New Labour were as tory as the Tories. I'm disputing that voting the Tories in (which you are suggesting) has helped at all.
Dear God I'm not saying that at all and I'll never forgive that toss pot Osborne for the destruction of our Armed Forces and cuting their funding to the bone . I'm just said that if you want more money in the NHS then you needed to vote Tories and not blame the immigrants.As much as I despise all the main parties, it wasn't all their fault, corporations and bankers of this country need to take responsibility, they've been bleeding us dry for years
No you can rightly blame the bankers for helping cause the recession(read depression) you can not blame them for the country being skint , that debt was run up by the Government before the recession. Also bare in mind the City pays something like a total of 80 billion a year (not an exact fig btw) to our economy . So with out the Bankers or the City we'l have no pensions, not much of a NHS and been in a pretty dire stateFor f**k sake the Petition isn't for or against immigration it is solely to stop the Cuts to MS nurses
Well then next time leave immigration out of your posts relating to this subject; You do your cause your self and us City fans no good what so ever, by even trying to bring in the issue of immigration on a subject like this.
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:26 pm
But its all connected. If you cant afford to feed your familly you dont feed your Neighbours Familly. Iys all connected and immagration is one main reason why this Country is skint.
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:30 pm
smilebit wrote:But its all connected. If you cant afford to feed your familly you dont feed your Neighbours Familly. Iys all connected and immagration is one main reason why this Country is skint.
No immigration is not why this county is skint at all . Now I don't like you bring in a very noble cause (like MS) and a very noble profession like nursing tainted by such an issue like immigration, More so when the NHS more than most as used immigration to help meet the needs and care of its patients.
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:46 pm
Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:58 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Yes i dont have a problem when they contribute have Jobs. Put Tax in the system, but those Millions being let in under Labour and the Tories without checks i doubt were all employed by the NHS Get real
Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:02 pm
smilebit wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Yes i dont have a problem when they contribute have Jobs. Put Tax in the system, but those Millions being let in under Labour and the Tories without checks i doubt were all employed by the NHS Get real
No they all got Jobs in the likes of the service industries and the likes of Factory and Building work , Making very hard for youngsters to get a job in such industries these days . The fact remains most immigrants either work officially or in the black market , either way they an't costing the country anywhere as much as you make out and immigrants have helped keep inflation relatively low thanks to low wage demands . Now if you want to make out that immigrants are not helping with issues like pressure on the NHS, roads/transport, housing and young people getting jobs I be more inclined to agree with you, but the country being skint is a case of Labour spending more money than the country could afford like Billions wasted Public programs (with out reforms) and paying the sick note culture which in the likes of the valleys, costs us as country far more than immigrants I'm willing to be
So please don't bring in immigrants into you very noble cause I can assure you I'm not in favour of current levels of Immigration any more than you and hate the fact that if you white & Christian you have no rights what so ever, while we bend over backwards for other cultures and religion to the point of no Christmas Nativity Play in schools for fear of upsetting other groups . So don't give me this PC bullcrap lecture because I'm sick for the PC culture too it should be 1 rule for all no matter your colour or religion.
But I'll not blame Immigration for the country being skint at all or blame Immigration for Nurses losing their jobs thank you
Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:09 am
Nuclearblue wrote:But you urged everyone NOT to sign the petition![]()
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So much for the Noble cause hey
Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:14 am
smilebit wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:But you urged everyone NOT to sign the petition![]()
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So much for the Noble cause hey
I would if there's any use immigration in the Petition, because if that's the case that Petition will lose any creditability and no authority, no board or no MP will take a blind bit of notice of it.
Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:43 am
Nuclearblue wrote:It's an official form from the MS society. They sent us out a form and I photocopied it and when they Are all full I will send them off.![]()
Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:31 pm
smilebit wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:It's an official form from the MS society. They sent us out a form and I photocopied it and when they Are all full I will send them off.![]()
So why the need to have ever brought immigration into it I do not know .People would have singed that form regardless and I'm sure MS society do not think immigration is to blame for NHS funding issues or would to be associated with such claims.
Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:31 pm
Our NHS cannot cope with being swamped by the Immigrants legal and otherwise. Now a bloke in work who's Wife works in a Maternity Hospital in Bristol gets so despondent. Apparently on one shift every Woman in the Maternity could not even speak English. They come over here to give Birth and stay on Benifits. Get your head out of the sand, the NHS cannot cope with being swamped by other Nationals
Yes our Country is also so much in debt because of the Bankers
On that I would agree with you 100%And very bad Governments including this Conservative one which has broken every promise it made to the electorate
But our Country is FULL and i am sorry if you think i am Racist because
f you think it gives Cardiff City fans a bad name again i could not give a toss
Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:43 pm
smilebit wrote:Our NHS cannot cope with being swamped by the Immigrants legal and otherwise. Now a bloke in work who's Wife works in a Maternity Hospital in Bristol gets so despondent. Apparently on one shift every Woman in the Maternity could not even speak English. They come over here to give Birth and stay on Benifits. Get your head out of the sand, the NHS cannot cope with being swamped by other Nationals
For starters I work in the NHS . You do here the score of Eastern Europeans coming over hear leaving perfectly good jobs and housing to use our Maternity services from people working in the Civil series (read not the NHS) That is not to blame for NHS staff losing their jobs at all, in fact if anything due to higher and ever more demand it would be quite the opposite
Did i mention about staffing requirements ?Yes our Country is also so much in debt because of the Bankers
For the last time, the cost of the Bank bail outs are no not included in our nation debt fig's . We're only paying off the structural deficit, you do know what a structural deficit is ?
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Its a debt and a bad one. we Cant just write it off.
On that I would agree with you 100%And very bad Governments including this Conservative one which has broken every promise it made to the electorateBut our Country is FULL and i am sorry if you think i am Racist because
The country is not full at all . I think you point is more that our current infrastructure and housing can not cope with the High levels of Immigration along side the domestic use - on that I would be more inclined to agree with you . That again is not the reason why the country is skint.
It is Full and soon its going to be packedf you think it gives Cardiff City fans a bad name again i could not give a toss
Your attitude and small mindedness not just give us football fans a bad name, but us Welsh in general . I bet you more than most jumps up when Earnie scored back in the good old days, never mind he's African by birth, do you go around saying we don't need the Malaysians get lost, our country is full , you'l probably hate the English too and think Wales could go alone too.
Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:46 pm
Did i mention about staffing requirements ?
Its a debt and a bad one. we Cant just write it off
It is Full and soon its going to be packed
Earnie is a God. Have met him several times and he is a Gentleman
In fact i give the Human race a bad name !!!!
But hell you give Toss pot a very good name
And for the record i am half English so you cant even get that right