The Kenny Miller knockers!!!

Whitts was never mentioned.

I'm sorry Whitts was mentioned as well as rumours of Whitts storming off, from a couple of games when was on the Subs bench, but it's all terrace talk

As for the overweight thing well that came form plenty of people and for me he looked a lot less fit and sharp as he had previously.

Well he was coming back for injury I don;t expect any player to be sharp coming off a serious injury and has for the overweight rubbish it's just that, Rooney get the same grief for the keyboard warrior fans, who for added irony can't run 400 years and can't see the keyboard past their beer guts.

Notice you've given up on arguing about Miller scoring more goals than him

Well that's because there no point, I meant games played and goals scored . yes I should have made it more clear, but there again what's the point ?

If you don't go for the role model and behaviour off the pitch then you aren't going to like our current manager

Utter toss . All a Manger should really care about is if a player turns up for training/games and gives his all when asked .

but he let himself (and us) down, both on and off the pitch last season, and I'm perfectly happy that we've got a more than adequate replacement in Miller (which is where this all started), and ultimately he will provide more goals, more assists and better performances than chops did last season.

Is there any point, Chopra was injured , I doubt Miller will come close to Jay goal scoring recorded last season , but I bet you wanted Jay to go as well ?.

Miller is one man and we've lost 2 quality strikers , Miller need help and Earnie just isn't up the the task .

I still belive MM wanted to play Goodwillie and Miller as his strikers.

Goodwillie went to Blackburn instead, a mistake in my mind, as Blackburn are all over the place.

Goodwillie and Miller would of taken this league by storm and held their own in the Prem.

Whitts was never mentioned.

I'm sorry Whitts was mentioned as well as rumours of Whitts storming off, from a couple of games when was on the Subs bench, but it's all terrace talk

As for the overweight thing well that came form plenty of people and for me he looked a lot less fit and sharp as he had previously.

Well he was coming back for injury I don;t expect any player to be sharp coming off a serious injury and has for the overweight rubbish it's just that, Rooney get the same grief for the keyboard warrior fans, who for added irony can't run 400 years and can't see the keyboard past their beer guts.

Notice you've given up on arguing about Miller scoring more goals than him

Well that's because there no point, I meant games played and goals scored . yes I should have made it more clear, but there again what's the point ?

If you don't go for the role model and behaviour off the pitch then you aren't going to like our current manager

Utter toss . All a Manger should really care about is if a player turns up for training/games and gives his all when asked .

SORRY COMPLETELY DISAGREE, FOR THE THIRD TIME, OFF-FIELD PROBLEMS AFFECT PLAYERS ON-FIELD - YOUR OPINION MAY BE OTHERWISE, BUT THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. CHOPRA, BOTHROYD, JEANNE, ROBERTS, all let their standards drop due to off-filed issues.

but he let himself (and us) down, both on and off the pitch last season, and I'm perfectly happy that we've got a more than adequate replacement in Miller (which is where this all started), and ultimately he will provide more goals, more assists and better performances than chops did last season.

Is there any point, Chopra was injured , I doubt Miller will come close to Jay goal scoring recorded last season , but I bet you wanted Jay to go as well ?.

Miller is one man and we've lost 2 quality strikers , Miller need help and Earnie just isn't up the the task .

Well, I read up every day on the club and have never seen Whitts implicated. As for him storming off -he made 50 appearances last year, so when was this ? Sounds like someone has been feeding you rbbish - Whitts is too lazy to storm off anyway .

Chopra was not sharp, and if this was down to his injury then it lasted a long time, most of the season !

Next your attempt at defending your comment about Miller's goalscoring. Not too good. Chopra played 37 scored 11. Miller already has 6 - plus a couple of international goals... how can you possibly come to the conclusion he won't get. 11. Unless you actually didnt realise Chopra only got 11 goals.

As for Jay no. I rated Jay. Disappointed with his attitude, but no - thing is you are slipping away from the original point I made as you are so desperate to discredit it and that is MILLER is an equal replacement to CHOPRA !
I agree that Earnie is no replacement for Jay, but then we are playing with 1 up front and Miller is very very good at that role.

Mason looks promising, yes not as good as Jay, but with more guts, and God knows what Rudi will be like, at least we have some othe roptions this year. It was Jay perform or City don't win last season.

The guy has got bags of confidence! Hes got balls!

Hes played against Southampton, Burnley (carling cup), Leeds, and Barnsley! The guy played amazing in them all!

I ent denying hes brilliant but still a lot to learn and the guy must be a great trainer and learner to have for his age because he seems to have a postive factor in his games where he will bust a gut all the time!

Hes some hot talent and we need to be careful so we took the foot of the gas and when needed he will be there and we know what we got on the bench!

Sordell is an in and out player because hes been played a lot for Watford now so hes a first teamer so hes going to have better ability in this league!

I love Joe Mason fairplay though! Hes a top man in person also! He said the fans have been brilliant since he came and pre season away at bournemouth he said that we are great bunch of fans!

Well, I read up every day on the club and have never seen Whitts implicated. As for him storming off -he made 50 appearances last year, so when was this ? Sounds like someone has been feeding you rbbish - Whitts is too lazy to storm off anyway

Sigh I made the point about it being all terrace talk and didn't it turn out that Whitts was indeed out , but it was on an official Club function .

Chopra was not sharp, and if this was down to his injury then it lasted a long time, most of the season

Chopra always looked sharp

Next your attempt at defending your comment about Miller's goalscoring

No has a out and out Striker I think Miller isn't in the same class as Chopra. He a good player and I can't fault his effort at all, but he'll not bag as many goals as Chopra . That's our trouble better if the Club had both Chopra and Miller as our main front pairing . To me Miller is very much like Kevin Davis for Bolton a class act but not a 20 goal a year striker , but a striker you'll want in your team no the less as they can win the ball, hold the ball bring other players into the game and even do a job at defence

but then we are playing with 1 up front and Miller is very very good at that role.

I hate the 1 up front formation tbh , its like watching Scotland and is such a negative formation imo (waits for Man Utd comments)

Mason looks promising, yes not as good as Jay, but with more guts, and God knows what Rudi will be like

now that's a different matter again. Those players have great futures but they're young and their fitness levels just isn't they yet. Earnie isn't up to the task and the Club needs a established Striker to help Miller and deep down we all know it .