" Team GB Welsh participation "

So where's the proof that they won't disband the four unions in the future? There's NO proof either way, all we have are the assurances of a few (known to be) bent officials in a corrupt organisation whose members are known to be resentful towards the unfare influence we hold on various committes throughout the world game.

The stakes are too high to threaten the existence of Welsh football over a bullshit tournament (in football terms)

Like Annis said, if we went to war we would all fight together to defend our nation. Living in Oz makes me realise how close the English, Welsh and Scottish actually are. Sure, there is banter and legitimate calls for devolution but most people from the home nations actually get on really well apart from the odd ruck at the footy. I would be proud to see Scottish and Welshmen get the chance to compete for silverware at the highest level. I cant get enough football. f**k Fifa and the stubborn FAs who have little power in Fifa and have serious delusions on grandeur.

What has the FAW ever done for Welsh football?

Also, Lions tours are better than the RUgby World Cup IMO.

Like Annis said, if we went to war we would all fight together to defend our nation. Living in Oz makes me realise how close the English, Welsh and Scottish actually are. Sure, there is banter and legitimate calls for devolution but most people from the home nations actually get on really well apart from the odd ruck at the footy. I would be proud to see Scottish and Welshmen get the chance to compete for silverware at the highest level. I cant get enough football. f**k Fifa and the stubborn FAs who have little power in Fifa and have serious delusions on grandeur.

What has the FAW ever done for Welsh football?

Also, Lions tours are better than the RUgby World Cup IMO.

If there was any chance of FIFA trying to break up home nations don't you think we would have heard plenty about it over the years? To the contrary FIFA has even contacted the faw and SFA and has given them private assurances that this is not the case. For the home nations to be disbanded it would also need two thirds of FIFA members to vote in favour, something that is highly unlikely to happen. In any event, if by some minuscule chance it did happen FIFA know that they would be caught up in years of legal challenges that would cost them millions of pounds, something they definitely don't want!

Looking objectively at all the evidence against Team GB there is absolutely nothing to suggest it realistically threatens the home nations. People are babbling on that there is a very small chance it may be detrimental but every time you step out of your front door there Is a chance you'll be hit by a car, although it's unlikely to happen. In my eyes this is a good analogy, we can be insular, lock our doors to new experiences and opportunities to improve or we can briefly go out of our door, participate in a world wide event and give our top young players priceless tournament experience!

For too long in this country we treat new opportunities with a ridiculous amount of caution, just look how long it took British teams to accept the world cup and ECL! People say Olympics football is a nothing competotion but so was the world cup and ECL before we participated. In recent years the standard of Olympics football has been growing, some of the worlds very best players have participated in it and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience, why shouldn't we do the same?

And if it is such a nothing tournament why do top nations like Argentina and Brazil put out virtually fell strength squads every competition?

Why have the likes of rivaldo, bebeto, ronaldo, okocha, kanu, ronaldino, robino, di Maria, aguero and Messi seen it worth their while in recent years??

My view is that the Welsh National Team is as high as it goes. No matter how small the perceived threat to its existence, its not worth ANY risk..
Jimbo you offer a very reasoned argument mate,I respect your opinion though I disagree in principle

Fergy, What the fek has football got to do with war? End.

Its been announced today now that Team GB will play One game at the Millenium Stadium with tickets going on sale end of November I think. The Millenium spokesman already stating it will be one of those I was there moments and urging fans to buy into it.

My view is that the Welsh National Team is as high as it goes. No matter how small the perceived threat to its existence, its not worth ANY risk..
Jimbo you offer a very reasoned argument mate,I respect your opinion though I disagree in principle

Fergy, What the fek has football got to do with war? End.

Brackla, can't fault your commitment to the welsh national team and if you feel you feel uneasy about it all then that's fair enough, what I can't stand is people on twitter peddling untruths and out right lies with no supporting evidence!

As for the game being played at the millennium stadium I personally can't wait. How can the faw realistically stop this happening anyway? It's not their stadium and the tournament is not a FIFA event!

Debating this on Jason Mohameds show at the moment.

Got some right beaut, Dave from Ebbw Vale, arguing the anti-gb case, yet keeps reffering to football as soccer.

Wales is in BRITAIN.

Would you prefer Welsh stars to step up into the squad of the finest players from Great Britain in its entirety, or be just selected for a Welsh national team? The fact that Ramsey and Bale are being casted along the likes of Rooney and other great players speaks wonders for the players and both are proud of their nationality - which is Welsh.

The Welsh FA can only grow from having its members feature in the Olympics. The Olympics only ever happen every 4 years, and it must be a great honor for Bale and Ramsey and whoever else to be called up.

If the Welsh FA disintegrated because of a Team GB, as did the Scottish FA and it all became one big FA - what would happen to the Welsh leagues? SPL? Blue Square? If the Welsh National Team was to merge with the English to make a GB Team, the Individual FAs would also be affected.

It should just be left to personal choice. Me... i wouldnt want to win anything and
stand there, best in the world listening to God Save The Queen, I dont see it as my
anthem.

but all this talk of 'the end of Wales as a national team' is bollocks, and a little
arrogant of us actually. The English FA is a very powerful one, even though FIFA
hate them .... no way on Gods earth would they ever disband and
become Great Britain. they got national pride too!! FIFA will NEVER have the
power to make them do that

Fifa clearly have an anti FA agenda and showed this with the fiascos that are the World Cup venues.
I am convinced that Fifa will use this opportunity to smash the voting power of the Welsh, N Irish and Scottish FAs, and so undermine the English FA.
Any private promises would be useless if those in charge of Fifa were to be replaced and quite frankly even if the promise was signed in Sepp Blaters blood across the face of the moon those dispicable lying scumbags would deny it.

Its a nice idea but its just not worth the risk.

Fifa clearly have an anti FA agenda and showed this with the fiascos that are the World Cup venues.
I am convinced that Fifa will use this opportunity to smash the voting power of the Welsh, N Irish and Scottish FAs, and so undermine the English FA.
Any private promises would be useless if those in charge of Fifa were to be replaced and quite frankly even if the promise was signed in Sepp Blaters blood across the face of the moon those dispicable lying scumbags would deny it.

Its a nice idea but its just not worth the risk.

We are not lovers of England either. But lets be clear on this. "England" to many
football fans across the world are a bit like Brazil. Up there on a pedestal, even
now when they are shite

Not a f*cking dogs chance of FIFA getting away with it. Even though I imagine
they'd love to try

WHAT ABOUT THIS THEN Hmm


The Welsh Rugby Union are advertising on their website the British Football team in the Olympics.

Well, for once the egg-chasers are right. It is the British football team. That's the reason for the arguments, whichever side people take.

WHAT ABOUT THIS THEN Hmm


The Welsh Rugby Union are advertising on their website the British Football team in the Olympics.

Well seeing as they own the stadium the game is being held in and will therefore probably have a % of the ticket income, why wouldn't they?

P.S. You've been reading CCMB haven't you?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ar ... 29386.html




Aaron Ramsey: I won't be bullied out of playing for Team GB
Published 22:30 11/11/11 By James Nurse.

Aaron Ramsey insists he can still play for Team GB at the Olympics and be a committed Wales captain.

And the Arsenal midfielder has issued a warning that if anyone tries to ruin his London 2012 dream he may get the PFA involved.

Ramsey and his Wales team-mate, Tottenham’s Gareth Bale, have received widespread criticism in their homeland for recently posing in GB promotional shirts.

The FAW are maintaining the stance that they do not want any Welsh players involved in the Olympics­ for fear of losing their own football ­independence.


But Ramsey, 20, is sticking by his desire to ­participate in the so-called ‘Greatest Show On Earth’ next summer, while fellow Welsh midfielder, Swansea’s Joe Allen, is also keen.

And the ex-Cardiff player hit back yesterday about the controversial­ issue and pictures which outraged many Wales fans ahead of today’s friendly with Norway.

Ramsey said: “Me and Gareth are contracted to adidas and it was a shoot for them.

“It wasn’t just that top we were photographed in that day, it was a few others. And I don’t regret it.

“If it doesn’t affect Wales’ identity then I don’t see why not to play for GB. It is up to the players. The PFA haven’t given us any reason why we can’t play in the Olympics.

“Maybe we’ll have a meeting, but I am not sure. It is still a long way away, so a lot can happen.

“But whenever I put on that Wales shirt I give 100 per cent, and Gareth and Joe are no different to me.

“I am a proud Welshman, who wants to go out and give his best every time.” Wales boss Gary Speed is also backing the FAW stance on the Olympic issue to safeguard their independence.

But he admits as a former player himself, he can ­understand why the likes of Ramsey and Bale, 22, are interested in playing.

He said: “It is only natural they would want to play, as it is a fantastic tournament and ­occasion.

“It would be good, but the scheduling for me would be an issue and I am not sure I would want to spend so much of pre-season in the athletes’ village.

“But I certainly won’t be intimidating­ anyone. It is all their decision­ and their choice.”

Speed wants all of his players next summer fully focused on their 2014 World Cup qualification­ campaign, which starts next autumn.

And he sees today’s friendly clash with Norway as an important­ fixture after three wins in four games.

Speed added: “It is our toughest test to date and we’ll learn a lot.

“Norway are very organised, difficult­ to break down and strong going forward.

“They are unfortunate not to have at least qualified for the Euro 2012 play-offs through their group.”

I dont see a problem about everyone playing in a GB Olympic team.
Remember Rugby has British Lions.
Golf has the Ryder Cup.
Tennis has the Davies Cup.

WALES FOOTBALL WILL NEVER LOSE ITS IDENTITY.

Agree with you Annis And if Bale and Rambo are allowed to play, (imo) they will be joined by 1or 2 more welsh players in that squad.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... frame.html

All for it me, be good to see the likes of Ramsey and Bale on the big stage country wise cos lets face it Wales are never going to get to a finals in our lifetime.

Putting a British Lions team together in RU hasnt seen the end of the individual national teams and it wont in football either.

Its only the small minded nationalists who are dead against it. Probably the same small percentage who want the Welsh language spoken by all in Wales.

Completely agree, I'm all for it

This is the usual bollocks you expect for the WFA & SFA . They are trying to protect their gravy train freebies.

Fifa has an issue with England due to their journalists exposing the corruption that lines the pockets of the organisation. Wales the dutiful lap dog votes with our English paymasters whenever it counts, as we get a sufficient handout from the FA.

Countries like Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Faroe Isles, Iceland, San Marino, Lichtenstein and a whole host of eastern European countries are nive little stocking fillers to the coffers of Eufa and Fifa through TV money, so they will not spite themselves.
The big countries need to be kept apart to intensify the suspense, so they must play smaller countries until the big tournament final and even bigger TV money starts.

The grandees of the smaller countries are being put back in their box, not the footballing nations.

Go for it Rambo and Bale !!!!!

PS: No professional footballer should be in the Olympics

Tell me,who on here is proud to be british?we all love wales yes any one here feel proud to be british.
I get the feeling you are more towsrds being just welsh,if so then that is so small minded,wales is only a principality,the uk is a small county and to be able to compete these days needs all the help,,also the faw are a f*cking joke,would love to see a british team compete in all torments.wil never happen as ther are to many people stuck in the dark ages who fear change

Gary.
My Fathers family were born in Egypt, My Mothers in England,I was born in Cardiff, Wales.
I feel proud to be British, if there is a war we all fight on the same side, United Kingdoms.

swansealad and annis you call it right in my view.im all for gb team in olympics.happy enough for us all to be our own countries in world/euro championship though.the thought of a gb team for world/euros hadn,t entered my head.not the worst idea either.bale and ramsey deserve the chance to play on a massive stage.at this current time this is their best chance.tbf the way england are shaping up it might some of our players best chance for a few years too .definatly for a medal.

tbh bale would be best player in the squad

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Te ... 87691.html

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Team-GB-Olympics-football-Wales-FA-allow-Gareth-Bale-Aaron-Ramsey-Ryan-Giggs-play-at-London-2012-article887691.html

amen to that.im looking forward to it.it will be great for us all

I dont see a problem about everyone playing in a GB Olympic team.
Remember Rugby has British Lions.
Golf has the Ryder Cup.
Tennis has the Davies Cup.

WALES FOOTBALL WILL NEVER LOSE ITS IDENTITY.

Exactly. It's a one-off event that happens every four years. I'm as nationalistic as anyone but I can't see how this i even considered a threat to our national teams

I dont see a problem about everyone playing in a GB Olympic team.
Remember Rugby has British Lions.
Golf has the Ryder Cup.
Tennis has the Davies Cup.

WALES FOOTBALL WILL NEVER LOSE ITS IDENTITY.

Exactly. It's a one-off event that happens every four years. I'm as nationalistic as anyone but I can't see how this i even considered a threat to our national teams

Sigh.

Plenty of nations are unhappy over the Home nations status, or more accurately, the power the associations hold over the rules of the game. Which was quid pro quo due to the Home Nations bailing FIFA out financially in the past.

FIFA have stated * they won't force the Home Nations to merge.

That's irrelevent. Should nations within FIFA demand and get a vote on the issue and it gets passed, FIFA will not overturn the democratic views of it's member nations.

So f**k me, it is a threat.

It's all very well burying your head in the sand, la la la, no risk, why take the f*cking chance? Especially since "Team GB's" commitment to the f*cking thing is so great, when precisely was the last British olympic side?

As for people wittering about Argentina, Brazil, maybe it helps if you actually realise Argentina, Brazil are in no danger of facing calls for a "Team South America".

I just hope to god the worst doesn't happen. If it does, those who backed / accepted this without thinking will be as complicit as FIFA.

* If you believe them.

Nerd by name, nerd by nature.

Self righteous bore passing off more opinions as "facts"

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Team-GB-Olympics-football-Wales-FA-allow-Gareth-Bale-Aaron-Ramsey-Ryan-Giggs-play-at-London-2012-article887691.html

Having read the article, it's nothing new! The FAW are just saying what they've said all along. It's up to the players themselves whether they want to play or not, but the FAW are advising against them taking part. Quite right too!

And to anyone who thinks they might as well take part in this nonsensical tournament because Wales have little chance of reaching a major tournament, think again. IMO (and many others' probably) we have a decent shout of the top 2 in the forthcoming WCQs (if our best XI is consistently available, that is) and if we don't make it to Brazil, qualification for Euro 2016 is certainly achievable seeing as they're expanding it from 16 teams to 24.

Nerd by name, nerd by nature.

Self righteous bore passing off more opinions as "facts"

Obvious troll account is obvious.