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Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:43 pm

never said it damaged the club, just a lot of people love the bad news
about the club, why they come on a city board is beyond me why not
stick to there own clubs boards.

but nothing said is news and no one knows the facts ?.

i am happy with the way the club is being run for the first time in
a long time, lets get behind the clubs and look for positives,

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:44 pm

lol what an angry little man you are

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:47 pm

Daya,

Did you do a really snidey/shitty thing by grassing TLG to his employers for using his computer in work?

Wow real man if so.......

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:48 pm

ccfclover wrote:lol what an angry little man you are


too right Sally Webster more interesting than replying to you. Stop interputing the Street !

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:17 pm

Midfield general wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Midfield general wrote:So would I be right in saying that the Langston issue has just been delayed and delayed with not a penny being paid and 'if' they win any kind of courtcase then interest would be put on top of monies already owed..?

Also has the Malaysians misled Sam then as I was under the impression that they had a good working relationship.

Yes you are right Adam no money has been paid off the Langston debt, interest is adding up and has Sam Hammam been misled then the answer would be categorically yes.

Sam and TG had a very friendly relationship and TG stayed at Sam's home for a few days in Lebanon and all the talk was that the debt would be settled but then a u-turn was made and a statement made on the club's official site http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/New ... 48,00.html

This statement baffled most who have had any involvement through the Langston loan note negotiations and as Gethin Jenkins said in a previous travel group meeting 'the club are awaiting a response from Langston'.

The relationship is not good betweeen Sam and the Malaysians and has not been for many months.


I'm sorry but this would support my theory that the Malaysians aren't as interested now as they were because the avenue of making quick buck of promotion to the Premier League which would have paid off the historic debts isn't available anymore.

It is like when someone comes up with an amazing money making scheme - the first person profits, and then all the johnny come latelys arrive thinking they can have some too. Not realising that they are diluting the 'rewards' that they're seeking.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:24 pm

spikey wrote:lets just trust in them running the club , nothing you posted is new and no facts
to say you know what is going on.

sorry i dont see how this post is helping the club in any way

That is an interesting statement 'lets just trust in them', so are you saying we cannot have concerns or we should not ask questions?

The next part you wrote 'nothing you posted is new' - sorry I must have missed where it had been said elsewhere what was brought up in the meeting I attended on Thursday, either that or you were in attendance yourself!

Thirdly why are you apologising, did I say this was helping and on the flip side is it damaging?

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:26 pm

spikey wrote:never said it damaged the club, just a lot of people love the bad news
about the club, why they come on a city board is beyond me why not
stick to there own clubs boards.

but nothing said is news and no one knows the facts ?.

i am happy with the way the club is being run for the first time in
a long time, lets get behind the clubs and look for positives,


How can you claim no-one knows the facts?

Is that a fact?

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:31 pm

carlccfc wrote:
spikey wrote:never said it damaged the club, just a lot of people love the bad news
about the club, why they come on a city board is beyond me why not
stick to there own clubs boards.

but nothing said is news and no one knows the facts ?.

i am happy with the way the club is being run for the first time in
a long time, lets get behind the clubs and look for positives,


How can you claim no-one knows the facts?

Is that a fact?

do you know all the facts the only ones who know the true facts are the ones in charge
not people who listen to rumours

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Daya wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:The Malaysians, Vincent Tan in particular, are far more wealthy than Sam. You don't get to be a billionaire without knowing a thing or two about dodgy dealing and how to play people. If they think they can get away without paying Langston anything, they'll try it.

If the Malaysians don't want to pay Langston now, you can bet they know what they are doing.

I do agree that the sooner this is sorted out, the better, as we will remove the threat of the return of Sam forever.

And good luck to them.


Ha Ha Ha.

You are either a school kid or a blind fool.


Neither. What I meant to say was - you don't get to be a billionaire without being a bit of a b*stard.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:35 pm

were did i say we cant question them ?. or have concerns ?

i think the club has a lot of negatives at the moment and we should look at the positives

was not an about meeting, but the facts about the on going concerns with langstones
any thing new there ?.

and were did i apologise ???

i can not see what benefit there was in the statement,

or am i not allowed mt view ?

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:40 pm

spikey wrote:were did i say we cant question them ?. or have concerns ?

i think the club has a lot of negatives at the moment and we should look at the positives

was not an about meeting, but the facts about the on going concerns with langstones
any thing new there ?.

and were did i apologise ???

i can not see what benefit there was in the statement,

or am i not allowed mt view ?

You said we should trust in them.

What are the negatives you speak about?

I thought it was very relevant that someone claims that legal action will happening soon regarding Langston, is that new info, damn right it is unless anyone can tell me otherwise and the point was in case you misread it, other people at the said meeting have been vocal on here and other internet sites claiming the debt is not payable until 2016 but they did not challenge the statement that legal action will happen and you don't have to be Einstein to work it out.

I can see the benefit of posting this on a messageboard.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:50 pm

yer i do think we should trust in them, do you think they are there
to make a quick buck, that dont happen in football clubs, they took over
and as far as i can see we are in a much beter position ??

as far as langston this been ongoing , and lega laction do you thing they
would come across with details in a travel meeting ?.

what are the negatives ? sorry i cant see it as a positive post can u

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:55 pm

spikey wrote:yer i do think we should trust in them, do you think they are there
to make a quick buck, that dont happen in football clubs, they took over
and as far as i can see we are in a much beter position ??

as far as langston this been ongoing , and lega laction do you thing they
would come across with details in a travel meeting ?.


what are the negatives ? sorry i cant see it as a positive post can u

I was at the meeting and the comments were made, I said others who were there never challenged the comment, that does not mean that they are club officials.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:59 pm

so its not official from the club then ?

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:01 pm

carlccfc wrote:
spikey wrote:yer i do think we should trust in them, do you think they are there
to make a quick buck, that dont happen in football clubs, they took over
and as far as i can see we are in a much beter position ??

as far as langston this been ongoing , and lega laction do you thing they
would come across with details in a travel meeting ?.


what are the negatives ? sorry i cant see it as a positive post can u

I was at the meeting and the comments were made, I said others who were there never challenged the comment, that does not mean that they are club officials.

if they are not club officials carl pherhaps they have no info an that why the never
challenged it
it seems to me the board are keeping everything close to there chest :ayatollah:

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:12 pm

carlccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:carl werent they paying 83k amonth back and this was confirm by many on here?

Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:13 pm

spikey wrote:so its not official from the club then ?

Going back to my first post in this thread :

At last nights travel group meeting a member of the travel group (whilst we were on the subject of Alan Whiteley being new CEO) said - "Alan will be a busy man and the first matter he will probably have to deal with is a legal action brought by Langston because you don't have to be Einstein to work out that it is going to happen."

The comment did not surprise me to be honest but the lack of response from around the table certainly did.

There are some who attend the travel group who have been vocal in the past that the money is not payable until 2016, so I was surprised that the statement went unchallenged.

Whether or not legal action is imminent I do not know but I would not be surprised either as it has gone on for far too long and the whole Langston affair needs addressing.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:14 pm

This about somes it up

Sam I salute you and thank you. Mrs Thatcher, thank you.

You lefty wankers...........

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:16 pm

Natman Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:carl werent they paying 83k amonth back and this was confirm by many on here?

Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Clearly I have stated that the club are paying £83k per month and I have said this on many occasions.

But there was an agreement to settle the whole outstanding amount before Dec 31st 2010, this has not been settled and no other monies have been paid off in addition to the £83k per month that has been public knowledge for some years now.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:17 pm

no new facts ??

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:18 pm

spikey wrote:no new facts ??

nothing to see here :roll:

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:18 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:carl werent they paying 83k amonth back and this was confirm by many on here?

Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Clearly I have stated that the club are paying £83k per month and I have said this on many occasions.

But there was an agreement to settle the whole outstanding amount before Dec 31st 2010, this has not been settled and no other monies have been paid off in addition to the £83k per month that has been public knowledge for some years now.



That Carl is all facts by you. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:21 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:carl werent they paying 83k amonth back and this was confirm by many on here?

Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Clearly I have stated that the club are paying £83k per month and I have said this on many occasions.

But there was an agreement to settle the whole outstanding amount before Dec 31st 2010, this has not been settled and no other monies have been paid off in addition to the £83k per month that has been public knowledge for some years now.



That Carl is all facts by you. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Annis I remember a time when it was argued there was never an agreement relating to Dec 31st 2010. :roll:

But lo and behold

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:24 pm

we dont know what the current agrement is ??

does any one know what the agreement is with sam,

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:25 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:carl werent they paying 83k amonth back and this was confirm by many on here?

Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Clearly I have stated that the club are paying £83k per month and I have said this on many occasions.

But there was an agreement to settle the whole outstanding amount before Dec 31st 2010, this has not been settled and no other monies have been paid off in addition to the £83k per month that has been public knowledge for some years now.



That Carl is all facts by you. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Annis I remember a time when it was argued there was never an agreement relating to Dec 31st 2010. :roll:

But lo and behold

:lol:

Yes once again nearly a year later and they are proved wrong, but will they admit it ? Hmm

And I do not mean the posters/members from this forum :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:26 pm

spikey wrote:we dont know what the current agrement is ??

does any one know what the agreement is with sam,

Langston do, CCFC do, Sam Hammam does and there are a handful of others who do.

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:28 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Clearly I have stated that the club are paying £83k per month and I have said this on many occasions.

But there was an agreement to settle the whole outstanding amount before Dec 31st 2010, this has not been settled and no other monies have been paid off in addition to the £83k per month that has been public knowledge for some years now.



That Carl is all facts by you. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Annis I remember a time when it was argued there was never an agreement relating to Dec 31st 2010. :roll:

But lo and behold

:lol:

Yes once again nearly a year later and they are proved wrong, but will they admit it ? Hmm

Gethin Jenkins did once, publicly :lol:

Bet that went down a treat in the board room

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:37 pm

we are only supporters , we will never know whats really going on.

sam was prob the best thing that happened to the club when he took
over in my mind, bottem 3rd and he put us on map,

but i am happy with the current owners and i think they will
take us the next step, maybe not this season but next

but when you watched them in font of 2k and been away with 40 then
theys are happy days, even though i agree with ely boy i enjoyed it a
lot more years ago

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:17 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:carl werent they paying 83k amonth back and this was confirm by many on here?

Yes the club is paying that back as part of the agreement, I meant that no money has been paid off that was due by Dec 31st 2010, no settlement has been reached.


so the club is paying money back or isn't which is it Carl as you seem to have changed stance once this has been brought up? Or are you trying to sensationalize things in favor of your mate Sam?

as if I am right you've said that no money was being paid back and now you are saying that it is?!?!?!?

Clearly I have stated that the club are paying £83k per month and I have said this on many occasions.

But there was an agreement to settle the whole outstanding amount before Dec 31st 2010, this has not been settled and no other monies have been paid off in addition to the £83k per month that has been public knowledge for some years now.


So then why say the club hasn't paid any money back??? sensationalism??? agenda????

Re: FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE POLITICS OF OUR CLUB

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:24 pm

Daya wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:The Malaysians, Vincent Tan in particular, are far more wealthy than Sam. You don't get to be a billionaire without knowing a thing or two about dodgy dealing and how to play people. If they think they can get away without paying Langston anything, they'll try it.

If the Malaysians don't want to pay Langston now, you can bet they know what they are doing.

I do agree that the sooner this is sorted out, the better, as we will remove the threat of the return of Sam forever.

And good luck to them.


Ha Ha Ha.

You are either a school kid or a blind fool.


you are both