DAYA - THE INDISPUTABLE TRUTH

Solutions Daya?

http://www.pinesolutions.co.uk

More a pine dungeon man myself

But seriously Daya, you come here with your agenda and state what you state, no problem with that. I don't agree with you, but thats not the issue. But what is your solution? Protests? Fans refuse to turn up? etc you seem to have identified a "Problem" but a solution doesn't seem to be your directive.

Solutions Daya?

http://www.pinesolutions.co.uk

More a pine dungeon man myself

But seriously Daya, you come here with your agenda and state what you state, no problem with that. I don't agree with you, but thats not the issue. But what is your solution? Protests? Fans refuse to turn up? etc you seem to have identified a "Problem" but a solution doesn't seem to be your directive.

you must be desperate then and they dont offer solutions as requested.

No Agenda - opinion. Haven't thought any solution . No need to . You all seem to be happy with the Malaysian take over over Cardiff City FC. No need for a solution.

My opinion is that it looks farcical , it's farcical too how many wave Malaysian flags . But thats my opinion. It's my opinion that its making a mockery out of a once great football club.

Your obviously happy with it - there you go then. No reason not to debate it though is there .

I would question the Malaysians agenda, I have stated many times how appreciated I am towards them for saving our club. However there is no affiliation or passion for CCFC or for us as fans, what is their agenda.......?

Owning a football club is a the latest fad for these foreign billionaires.

The bubble will burst eventually I fear.

For once I agree with you.

but the fact that they are going grass roots back in Malaysia, and have pumped new
life into the Academy here suggests (to me) that they really arent in it for a quick
ego trip. How clever would Tan look over there advertising everything as 'Cardiff City'
this and Cardiff City that if he walks off and lets the Club go bust

New life ? Where too exactly ? Please explain.

Why over there ? hes using the name for publicity for nothing that can benefit Cardiff City .

If he did develop a player - he wouldnt get a work permit.

Grass roots - you can get that locally Taffy you dont need to go to KL to get it.

What a strange comment regarding publicity. Making a brand name know to MILLIONS
of POTENTIAL new customers, people who could spend millions on Club merchandise,
selling that brand in a positive light to the young of the country, the next generation.
Are you telling me that all those little kiddies are going to go running up to their mum
and dad asking for a VINCENT TAN shirt???

You are blinded by hatred of all things Malaysian

You cant win this 'debate'

Mine is driven by reason, yours is driven by bitterness

Solutions Daya?

http://www.pinesolutions.co.uk

More a pine dungeon man myself

But seriously Daya, you come here with your agenda and state what you state, no problem with that. I don't agree with you, but thats not the issue. But what is your solution? Protests? Fans refuse to turn up? etc you seem to have identified a "Problem" but a solution doesn't seem to be your directive.

you must be desperate then and they dont offer solutions as requested.

No Agenda - opinion. Haven't thought any solution . No need to . You all seem to be happy with the Malaysian take over over Cardiff City FC. No need for a solution.

My opinion is that it looks farcical , it's farcical too how many wave Malaysian flags . But thats my opinion. It's my opinion that its making a mockery out of a once great football club.

Your obviously happy with it - there you go then. No reason not to debate it though is there .

Just to qualify, when I say 'agenda' I mean we all have agenda's not just you specifically.

I think some people place far too much importance on this messageboard.

VT is a billionaire, im not sure he would give two fucks how many wind up threads Daya starts. Im sure hes got a bit more about him than to get upset by a fans forum.

Quote Go away young one - grow some hairs on your bollocks and mature and come back with some decent opinion.Firstly daya i am 52 years old with plenty of hairs on my bollocks,iv followed city for 44 years which is alot longer than you ever have.Why are you so pissed off(maybe your not part of the inner circle no more eh)

The world is a small place nowadays.To be successful it appears you have to have foreign owners ie. Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool. Or of course you can go for British like Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, West Ham, keep your tradition but have not a hope in hell. Do I care if they advertise Malaysia instead of some firm, no not really. I'll stick with Cardiff, you stick to West Ham.

The world is a small place nowadays.To be successful it appears you have to have foreign owners ie. Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool. Or of course you can go for British like Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, West Ham, keep your tradition but have not a hope in hell. Do I care if they advertise Malaysia instead of some firm, no not really. I'll stick with Cardiff, you stick to West Ham.

True. Bit arrogant (to say the least) coming on another Clubs messageboard
acting like we're all thick Welsh bastards, and cant see the wood for the trees.
All this concern about us having Malaysia on our shirts when the very area
where West Ham play is no longer even part of England But we dont go spouting
on their boards. Why? None of our business, and moreover... we really really
dont give a f**k about them

First of all daya i know you have followed city for a number of years,but your first love is west ham.So why the f**k are you trying to cause havoc about OUR CLUB NOT YOURS,why not do as you said months ago and stay off our mbs ffs grow up

FFS he does it to get a response, surely people have worked Dayo out by now. He dangles the bait and most fall for it all the time

No bait - just opinion.

Which your entitled too

First of all daya i know you have followed city for a number of years,but your first love is west ham.So why the f**k are you trying to cause havoc about OUR CLUB NOT YOURS,why not do as you said months ago and stay off our mbs ffs grow up

FFS he does it to get a response, surely people have worked Dayo out by now. He dangles the bait and most fall for it all the time

No bait - just opinion.

Which your entitled too

Indeed he is. But post after post after post after post after post?? All slagging
off Malaysian owners....of a Club he doesnt even care about???

A Psychiatrist would have a field day. Nietzsche could have forged a career
based just on a few hours of Daya on his couch.

"There there, calm down, have a mint"

"Mint? MINT!! Facking MINT, ill give you facking mint you cant, mints were invented
in Kuala Lumpar. You facking sell out cant. Your Gethin Jenkins!! you ARE, your him
its YOU. AAARRRGHHHHH.. please dont throw me out Gethin i like this couch"

Indeed he is. But post after post after post after post after post?? All slagging
off Malaysian owners....of a Club he doesnt even care about???

A Psychiatrist would have a field day. Nietzsche could have forged a career
based just on a few hours of Daya on his couch.

"There there, calm down, have a mint"

"Mint? MINT!! Facking MINT, ill give you facking mint you cant, mints were invented
in Kuala Lumpar. You facking sell out cant. Your Gethin Jenkins!! you ARE, your him
its YOU. AAARRRGHHHHH.. please dont throw me out Gethin i like this couch"

Brilliant Taff post of the day there.

Indeed he is. But post after post after post after post after post?? All slagging
off Malaysian owners....of a Club he doesnt even care about???

A Psychiatrist would have a field day. Nietzsche could have forged a career
based just on a few hours of Daya on his couch.

"There there, calm down, have a mint"

"Mint? MINT!! Facking MINT, ill give you facking mint you cant, mints were invented
in Kuala Lumpar. You facking sell out cant. Your Gethin Jenkins!! you ARE, your him
its YOU. AAARRRGHHHHH.. please dont throw me out Gethin i like this couch"

Brilliant Taff post of the day there.

Why thank you

I'm having a laugh today, its fun

Indeed he is. But post after post after post after post after post?? All slagging
off Malaysian owners....of a Club he doesnt even care about???

A Psychiatrist would have a field day. Nietzsche could have forged a career
based just on a few hours of Daya on his couch.

"There there, calm down, have a mint"

"Mint? MINT!! Facking MINT, ill give you facking mint you cant, mints were invented
in Kuala Lumpar. You facking sell out cant. Your Gethin Jenkins!! you ARE, your him
its YOU. AAARRRGHHHHH.. please dont throw me out Gethin i like this couch"

Brilliant Taff post of the day there.

Agree with that, brilliant post taffy

what do you want daya?

do you want city back in league 2 like the good old days (4th div)

or do you want city to move forward??

because personally and unfortunatly i think its the way football is going,

its been ruined by money years ago...

FFS he does it to get a response, surely people have worked Dayo out by now. He dangles the bait and most fall for it all the time [/quote]

No bait - just opinion.[/quote]

Which your entitled too[/quote]

Indeed he is. But post after post after post after post after post?? All slagging
off Malaysian owners....of a Club he doesnt even care about???

A Psychiatrist would have a field day. Nietzsche could have forged a career
based just on a few hours of Daya on his couch.

"There there, calm down, have a mint"

"Mint? MINT!! Facking MINT, ill give you facking mint you cant, mints were invented
in Kuala Lumpar. You facking sell out cant. Your Gethin Jenkins!! you ARE, your him
its YOU. AAARRRGHHHHH.. please dont throw me out Gethin i like this couch"[/quote]


Im not taking sides here BTW

FFS he does it to get a response, surely people have worked Dayo out by now. He dangles the bait and most fall for it all the time

No bait - just opinion.[/quote]

Which your entitled too[/quote]

Indeed he is. But post after post after post after post after post?? All slagging
off Malaysian owners....of a Club he doesnt even care about???

A Psychiatrist would have a field day. Nietzsche could have forged a career
based just on a few hours of Daya on his couch.

"There there, calm down, have a mint"

"Mint? MINT!! Facking MINT, ill give you facking mint you cant, mints were invented
in Kuala Lumpar. You facking sell out cant. Your Gethin Jenkins!! you ARE, your him
its YOU. AAARRRGHHHHH.. please dont throw me out Gethin i like this couch"[/quote]


Im not taking sides here BTW[/quote]

Nor am i really mate. Im not on some crusade against him. Just think he is getting a
bit over the top slagging off our new owners. Fair enough if he was a true City fan, but
he made it clear the morning after we beat West Ham that he wasnt, his words not
ours. For someone who dont give a f**k, he has a hell of a lot to say about this club

well. i like daya. hes got everything a message board wants

Ffs isn't it blindingly obvious why daya is like he is? He ain't part of any inner circle anymore, no in with the board jollies with sam or ridders going on, without that and the strange credibility he feels that brings he is just an ordinary fan like the rest of us. This is the way it should be. Vincent tan has saved our club from going under. They might be changing theclub but let's face it, it needed it. West ham is no different, it's all corporate bollox these days to suit the good old premier league. Get over it dayo surely your too old to give a f**k anyway?

Personally I think the fact that its not the same club any more is more down to the move away from Ninian Park and a re-branding of the club as a family affair. Some would say that's progress, some not.

With regards to them re-branding everything as Malaysia FC, thats just rubbish. If they pay the money they decide the strategy. If that strategy is to try to launch a UK business or to attract a following from a football mad country that then adopts them as a icon and pays dividends, then so be it.

As for a three year plan, I'm always scepticle when I hear the words .... year plan as most of the time it indicates buying time and a lack of immediate investment, however I think everyone associated with City has had enough of 1 year plans.

Ffs isn't it blindingly obvious why daya is like he is? He ain't part of any inner circle anymore, no in with the board jollies with sam or ridders going on, without that and the strange credibility he feels that brings he is just an ordinary fan like the rest of us. This is the way it should be. Vincent tan has saved our club from going under. They might be changing theclub but let's face it, it needed it. West ham is no different, it's all corporate bollox these days to suit the good old premier league. Get over it dayo surely your too old to give a f**k anyway?

inner circle - your having alaugh!!

well. i like daya. hes got everything a message board wants

Jelly Babies?

Fuckin loves em i do

Daya barmy army lol x

Solutions Daya?

http://www.pinesolutions.co.uk

saw stuff like that at the local WHAT shop

Daya like yourself I have also had doubts about the Malaysians for a long while now and finally people are starting to see the light and join our bandwagon which is well and truely moving now. Unfortunately its taken a run of bad results for people to really take a good look at the situation but they have done it and have come to the same conculsion as us.

Whether you like it or not the takeover was a gamble, had we beaten Blackpool that year then they would have been quids in, same with last years playoffs but for me no-one has mentioned my main theory as to why my feelings surrounding them has become stronger in recent weeks and that is Tony Fernandez. I feel that he could also see the gap in the Malaysian market for a Malaysian to own a Premier League club and the moment he brought QPR who were already in the Premier League then he automatically gained pole position in the race for Malaysian interest. It is at this point (mid august) that I think the Malaysians knew that they have lost the game and their interest is lost completely.

Just my theory but I have stuck by it for 2 months now and Ive seen nothing to change my mind on it.

vT is far wealthier than Fernandez, massive gamble on his part as qpr could easily come back down. They only have small following in a competitive part of London too.

For once I agree with you.

but the fact that they are going grass roots back in Malaysia, and have pumped new
life into the Academy here suggests (to me) that they really arent in it for a quick
ego trip. How clever would Tan look over there advertising everything as 'Cardiff City'
this and Cardiff City that if he walks off and lets the Club go bust

This is going a little off topic but I think you have raised a good point Taffy. I wrote to the club a while back pointing out to TG that it was extremely unlikely that he or VT would make any direct money out of CCFC because the history of football clubs shows that even if clubs reach the Premier League there is no pot of gold waiting as it all gets eaten up by wages and transfer fees etc.

However I did say that this club has shown there is much money to be made out of modest investments in the Academy and youth football. The Sam Hammam days proved that as we produced a string of young players many of which are now part of the revitalised Welsh National team. They bagged this club transfer fees in the tens of millions and the only down point being that the bonanza was wasted by Peter Ridsdale.

I doubt my letter made any difference, but the savy Malaysians seemed to have worked this out for themselves and are putting money into the Academy. Let's be fair I would prefer to see money pumped into the youth academy rather than wasted on another hopless loan signing any day.

Daya like yourself I have also had doubts about the Malaysians for a long while now and finally people are starting to see the light and join our bandwagon which is well and truely moving now. Unfortunately its taken a run of bad results for people to really take a good look at the situation but they have done it and have come to the same conculsion as us.

Whether you like it or not the takeover was a gamble, had we beaten Blackpool that year then they would have been quids in, same with last years playoffs but for me no-one has mentioned my main theory as to why my feelings surrounding them has become stronger in recent weeks and that is Tony Fernandez. I feel that he could also see the gap in the Malaysian market for a Malaysian to own a Premier League club and the moment he brought QPR who were already in the Premier League then he automatically gained pole position in the race for Malaysian interest. It is at this point (mid august) that I think the Malaysians knew that they have lost the game and their interest is lost completely.

Just my theory but I have stuck by it for 2 months now and Ive seen nothing to change my mind on it.

vT is far wealthier than Fernandez, massive gamble on his part as qpr could easily come back down. They only have small following in a competitive part of London too.

Having lived in London myself for a while thye got more fans then us FACT

And those fans have far bigger disposable incomes as well.

Daya like yourself I have also had doubts about the Malaysians for a long while now and finally people are starting to see the light and join our bandwagon which is well and truely moving now. Unfortunately its taken a run of bad results for people to really take a good look at the situation but they have done it and have come to the same conculsion as us.

Whether you like it or not the takeover was a gamble, had we beaten Blackpool that year then they would have been quids in, same with last years playoffs but for me no-one has mentioned my main theory as to why my feelings surrounding them has become stronger in recent weeks and that is Tony Fernandez. I feel that he could also see the gap in the Malaysian market for a Malaysian to own a Premier League club and the moment he brought QPR who were already in the Premier League then he automatically gained pole position in the race for Malaysian interest. It is at this point (mid august) that I think the Malaysians knew that they have lost the game and their interest is lost completely.

Just my theory but I have stuck by it for 2 months now and Ive seen nothing to change my mind on it.

OK MG I respect your opinion but putting some meat on the bones, just say had we beaten Blackpool and been promoted to the PL just how would the Malaysians have made money from that?

At the time they only owed 30% of the club and it was heavilly in debt. Also salaries and transfer fees would have rocketed and there was no suggestion that they had a buyer lined up for a quick sale.

Daya like yourself I have also had doubts about the Malaysians for a long while now and finally people are starting to see the light and join our bandwagon which is well and truely moving now. Unfortunately its taken a run of bad results for people to really take a good look at the situation but they have done it and have come to the same conculsion as us.

Whether you like it or not the takeover was a gamble, had we beaten Blackpool that year then they would have been quids in, same with last years playoffs but for me no-one has mentioned my main theory as to why my feelings surrounding them has become stronger in recent weeks and that is Tony Fernandez. I feel that he could also see the gap in the Malaysian market for a Malaysian to own a Premier League club and the moment he brought QPR who were already in the Premier League then he automatically gained pole position in the race for Malaysian interest. It is at this point (mid august) that I think the Malaysians knew that they have lost the game and their interest is lost completely.

Just my theory but I have stuck by it for 2 months now and Ive seen nothing to change my mind on it.

Ah, Tony Fernandez.

In case you'd not read the match programmes, you'd see that the club have worked pretty well in Malaysia establishing soccer schools - Kevin Cooper being stationed over there. Massive publicity, massive goodwill. In case you'd not been at our games, you'd also sees fairly regularly high ranking Malaysian visitors.

QPR may be in the prem, may be owned by Fernandez but have little to no presence over there and are miles behind us on that score.

But still, given all that ongoing stuff in Malaysia I can clearly see why you believe the Malaysians have allegedly given up.

Daya like yourself I have also had doubts about the Malaysians for a long while now and finally people are starting to see the light and join our bandwagon which is well and truely moving now. Unfortunately its taken a run of bad results for people to really take a good look at the situation but they have done it and have come to the same conculsion as us.

Whether you like it or not the takeover was a gamble, had we beaten Blackpool that year then they would have been quids in, same with last years playoffs but for me no-one has mentioned my main theory as to why my feelings surrounding them has become stronger in recent weeks and that is Tony Fernandez. I feel that he could also see the gap in the Malaysian market for a Malaysian to own a Premier League club and the moment he brought QPR who were already in the Premier League then he automatically gained pole position in the race for Malaysian interest. It is at this point (mid august) that I think the Malaysians knew that they have lost the game and their interest is lost completely.

Just my theory but I have stuck by it for 2 months now and Ive seen nothing to change my mind on it.

vT is far wealthier than Fernandez, massive gamble on his part as qpr could easily come back down. They only have small following in a competitive part of London too.

Having lived in London myself for a while thye got more fans then us FACT

And those fans have far bigger disposable incomes as well.

Correct Tony

And QPR's capacity is?

And QPR's capacity is?

That is a poor point Nerd because if you are going to rely on addendances then we would have to then take into account sponsorship which is bound to be a lot higher in London than Cardiff.