MID TABLE AT BEST FOR CCFC THIS SEASON

Lol, so why not tell us your honest opinion after the Southampton game then? It would have had a lot more credibility.

See you next year Stan. Not a dig, just my honest opinion.

Think your post answered my question actually.

New manager
New players
Playing catch up after 10 games.

One thing I learned from last season from us is you MUST get off to a good start & bank points as teams around you will keep on winning, especially this year with the quality that's come down.

With the things you mentioned that I listed above I don't think it is ideal for a promotion push.

But hey what do I know. As I've said many times its just my opinion but we will see how things pan out.

MM must be backed imho to give you a fair crack of the whip.

Lol, so why not tell us your honest opinion after the Southampton game then? It would have had a lot more credibility.

See you next year Stan. Not a dig, just my honest opinion.

10 games. Can't see what's strange about judging a team after 10 games.

I value your opinion &
Yes we have a task on our hands but with the manager, board & players we have we won't be seeing you anytime soon.

Fair enough, just seems a bit sus showing up here after our first loss in several games.

Appreciate your view Stan.

Expectations are'nt as high as last year. i honestly think that we have a team capable of getting to the play off's and then it's a lottery who performs on the day.

I'm sure the owners will back MM in the transfer market, but he is looking for the right type of player that won't affect the team spirit that he has installed in the team.

It was good today seeing Joe Ralls getting his first senior goal for the bluebirds today, after only being given professional contract on Wednesday, what a cracker it was.

I'm really enjoying this season so far, as recent results have gone who know's what is going to happen, the Championship is so unpredictable.

And that's what makes it so good to watch.

Not at all Yank.

You should know from history I'm not into point scoring.

Its a legitimate debate imho & has produced some interesting posts.

If I had said the same after 5-6 games I'd stand by what I said. I don't think you have enough numbers or quality to mount a. Serious challenge.

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STAN

YOU MUST BE ONE HUGE SOCCER FAN TO BE ABLE TO FIND THE TIME TO EXAMINE CCFC IN THE DEPTH THAT YOU HAVE.HOWEVER FOOTBALL IS NOT PLAYED ON A PC NOR SHOULD IT BE A INDICATOR FOR FUTURE PROGRESS. ME MYSELF I THINK ANY POSITION IN THE TOP HALF OF THE TABLE THIS SEASON WILL BE A ACHIEVMENT IN ITSELF.WE ARE NOT THAT FAR APART AS FOR OUR EXPECTIONS FOR OUR BOTH CLUBS THIS SEASON IF I OFFERED YOU 13 POSITION THIS SEASON I THINK YOU WOULD BITE MY ARM OFF.PS RESERVE YOURE OPPINION ON OUR EX CENTER FORWARD UNTIL YOU ALSO HAVE HAD A SEASON OF WATCHING THE PHYSIOS ARSE UP IN THE AIR AT LEAST THREE TIMES A GAME FOR NEEDLESS INJURYS,JUST WATCH DERRY BARTON AND THE LIKES THEY WILL SOON TIRE OF THIS.

MY GUESS YOU WILL FINNISH 16th GOOD LUCK

Thanks Clam lad.

Yea you are right it is early days & on reflection I may have been a little premature in basically writing off your season already (always suffered with premature )

All it is, is just I can see what you've got at your disposal & I fear the worst with regards to a promotion push but as you said 3-4 GOOD loans will do you the world of good. Loans are not ideal as we found out but as it stands it could. Make your season.

The thing is, at the moment there are no teams in the division who stand out as being clearly better than anyone else. Even at this early stage last season, it was clear that QPR were going to be the side to beat, and that we were likely to be up there aswell. There is no team like that this year - even West Ham look unconvincing, and Leicester could be like us last year with a strong squad on paper but not really a team.

At the moment, I still think we are one of as many as 16 teams in the division who are capable of a top 6 place!

Elad-great post mate & I like your line about enjoying your football as that is ultimately the most important thing & you won't find a more exciting league than the Championship.


Crack-im a football fan its not hard to sit down & read a paper or a review or watch a game on the tv so I would say I do what many millions do every week, watch football & make an opinion on it.

As for Jay if that time comes fair enough Warnock will have him out but I can only judge him on what I've seen and at the moment he's been first class every game.

Same to yourselves mate. Good luck

dont expect much from this season altho malky has put together an interesting team, battlers, something we never had under jones. burke tho was pretty shocking all last season, so was chopra and jay went missing after christmas. only bellers can hold his head up out of the 4 you quoted. we have a better defence and midfield than last season. our attacking line needs a few additions mind. then we could be talking.

That is my honest opinion lads.

Not a dig, not slagging you off just an honest assessment from what I've seen from you lads early on this season.

Obviously we all know you had a MUCH better squad last season than your current one but with MM at the helm I firmly think you have a great manager for the future, but unfortunately not right now.

From an outsiders point of view I would say your squad is weak probably the weakest of the current top 6-8 teams. You have some good young players & of course you have experience in Miller & Earnie but I don't see that match winner you really do need in the Championship. Taarabt for us was immense but he couldn't be half the player he was without players like Derry, Clint Hill, Jamie Mackie & Ali Faurlin around him last year that gave him the license to do what he did. I don't see a Cardiff player that can take games by the scruff of the neck & lead you into battle (Bellamy)

I also don't feel that MM has been backed sufficiently by your owners or I'm pretty sure he would of brought in a couple of better quality players than you did. Miller & Earnie were good 3 years ago & I honestly don't see them getting the goals you will need to fire you up the league.

You are already 7 points off of Southampton (counting a far superior GD) & get a few injuries & I think you will free fall.

Unlucky today, how did you play? As I say not a dig at all purely a football based opinion but as always would love to be proved wrong as its no secret I'd love to see Cardiff City in the Premiership as you are a big big club who would flourish in the top flight.

Unfortunately it won't be this season.

Prediction 13th.

funny you come on and make your statement after a loss, even tough we beat the current leaders with a depleted side in mid week

Thanks Clam lad.

Yea you are right it is early days & on reflection I may have been a little premature in basically writing off your season already (always suffered with premature )

All it is, is just I can see what you've got at your disposal & I fear the worst with regards to a promotion push but as you said 3-4 GOOD loans will do you the world of good. Loans are not ideal as we found out but as it stands it could. Make your season.

The thing is, at the moment there are no teams in the division who stand out as being clearly better than anyone else. Even at this early stage last season, it was clear that QPR were going to be the side to beat, and that we were likely to be up there aswell. There is no team like that this year - even West Ham look unconvincing, and Leicester could be like us last year with a strong squad on paper but not really a team.

At the moment, I still think we are one of as many as 16 teams in the division who are capable of a top 6 place!

Agree mate it takes more than names to get up. Only 'top' player we had last year was Taarabt but we were a proper team that's what got us up.

You are right about West Ham, Leicester etc but the point I've been constantly hitting home is numbers & quality, a few injurys & both of them clubs could call on very decent back up players whereas I don't think Cardiff could. That is where I see you failing this year.

Not on your manager
Not with your team spirit
Not with your grit & determination
Not with your will to win

But simply your lack of numbers & quality players that I feel you need big time in the Championship.

Agree, a season is a marathon not a sprint but in a marathon the golden rule is to pace yourself.How long can a team play out of their skins before burn out? At this rate we'll be hitting the wall by xmas.Is it just a coincidence we're picking up so many injuries or is it a result of the way we play?

That is my honest opinion lads.

Not a dig, not slagging you off just an honest assessment from what I've seen from you lads early on this season.

Obviously we all know you had a MUCH better squad last season than your current one but with MM at the helm I firmly think you have a great manager for the future, but unfortunately not right now.

From an outsiders point of view I would say your squad is weak probably the weakest of the current top 6-8 teams. You have some good young players & of course you have experience in Miller & Earnie but I don't see that match winner you really do need in the Championship. Taarabt for us was immense but he couldn't be half the player he was without players like Derry, Clint Hill, Jamie Mackie & Ali Faurlin around him last year that gave him the license to do what he did. I don't see a Cardiff player that can take games by the scruff of the neck & lead you into battle (Bellamy)

I also don't feel that MM has been backed sufficiently by your owners or I'm pretty sure he would of brought in a couple of better quality players than you did. Miller & Earnie were good 3 years ago & I honestly don't see them getting the goals you will need to fire you up the league.

You are already 7 points off of Southampton (counting a far superior GD) & get a few injuries & I think you will free fall.

Unlucky today, how did you play? As I say not a dig at all purely a football based opinion but as always would love to be proved wrong as its no secret I'd love to see Cardiff City in the Premiership as you are a big big club who would flourish in the top flight.

Unfortunately it won't be this season.

Prediction 13th.

Ridiculous

I know you post on here regularly, but please refrain from coming on here
all condescending like BillyBigTime premiership boy.

We ALL KNOW we are a player or two short, but even without them we
we will be at least 8th by xmas.

Ask yourself why we dont all post on YOUR boards...

It cos we're not interested.

No offence

Rubbish simple as that.

Would norwich and Swansea have looked like challengers now. At a guess I bet they had a budget the same as MM.

I have access to QPR player which if you don't know is the same company Cardiff use. Log in details can access any clubs websites who use player. I have watched EVERY set of highlights from your games to date as I like to see how your getting on.

Yes your team battles so does 99% of the teams in your division is doesn't mean you have any advantage over any other teams mate.

In a nutshell what I'm saying is I don't see that 'blend' you need to get out of this league which in my view is youth, experience, a star player, a tight defence & a top goalkeeper. Those in my opinion are the golden ingredients & I would say you have 2 of those just about, youth & experience. I see you as very stretched squad wise & I just don't see it getting much better than it already is.

Losing players like;

Bothroyd
Bellamy
Chopra
Burke

Are going to affect any team but not replacing them with players half as good as them is a sign that things are not all that well at the club.

Just my take on it mate for what its worth.

Sta, what has Bothroyd 'added' to your squad?? He goes missing for half the game (sitting on his backside looking forlorn at the referee as the game goes on around him for 5 minutes or so) and could potentially score a lot more goals if he was less of a Prima Donna and partook of the game a little more....

Not sour grapes. I always had a go at him for 'giving up' too easily

That is my honest opinion lads.

Not a dig, not slagging you off just an honest assessment from what I've seen from you lads early on this season.

Obviously we all know you had a MUCH better squad last season than your current one but with MM at the helm I firmly think you have a great manager for the future, but unfortunately not right now.

From an outsiders point of view I would say your squad is weak probably the weakest of the current top 6-8 teams. You have some good young players & of course you have experience in Miller & Earnie but I don't see that match winner you really do need in the Championship. Taarabt for us was immense but he couldn't be half the player he was without players like Derry, Clint Hill, Jamie Mackie & Ali Faurlin around him last year that gave him the license to do what he did. I don't see a Cardiff player that can take games by the scruff of the neck & lead you into battle (Bellamy)

I also don't feel that MM has been backed sufficiently by your owners or I'm pretty sure he would of brought in a couple of better quality players than you did. Miller & Earnie were good 3 years ago & I honestly don't see them getting the goals you will need to fire you up the league.

You are already 7 points off of Southampton (counting a far superior GD) & get a few injuries & I think you will free fall.

Unlucky today, how did you play? As I say not a dig at all purely a football based opinion but as always would love to be proved wrong as its no secret I'd love to see Cardiff City in the Premiership as you are a big big club who would flourish in the top flight.

Unfortunately it won't be this season.

Prediction 13th.

Ridiculous

I know you post on here regularly, but please refrain from coming on here
all condescending like BillyBigTime premiership boy.

We ALL KNOW we are a player or two short, but even without them we
we will be at least 8th by xmas.

Ask yourself why we dont all post on YOUR boards...

It cos we're not interested.

No offence

Hahaha you sausage

8th by xmas? Maybe but 13th by mid May & that's when it really matters.

I have access to QPR player which if you don't know is the same company Cardiff use. Log in details can access any clubs websites who use player. I have watched EVERY set of highlights from your games to date as I like to see how your getting on.

Yes your team battles so does 99% of the teams in your division is doesn't mean you have any advantage over any other teams mate.

In a nutshell what I'm saying is I don't see that 'blend' you need to get out of this league which in my view is youth, experience, a star player, a tight defence & a top goalkeeper. Those in my opinion are the golden ingredients & I would say you have 2 of those just about, youth & experience. I see you as very stretched squad wise & I just don't see it getting much better than it already is.

Losing players like;

Bothroyd
Bellamy
Chopra
Burke

Are going to affect any team but not replacing them with players half as good as them is a sign that things are not all that well at the club.

Just my take on it mate for what its worth.

Sta, what has Bothroyd 'added' to your squad?? He goes missing for half the game (sitting on his backside looking forlorn at the referee as the game goes on around him for 5 minutes or so) and could potentially score a lot more goals if he was less of a Prima Donna and partook of the game a little more....

Not sour grapes. I always had a go at him for 'giving up' too easily

In a nutshell Jay has been quality.

Plays a thankless task up front on his own battling with Premiership hardened defenders, bringing our midfield into play at every opportunity & wins a lot more balls than I thought he would considering some on here said he wears concrete boots!

If he was more predatory he'd of had 5 goals by now but that's not a worry they will come, I'd be more worried if he never got in goal scoring positions.

#greatsigning

I agree about Jay, great signing and everything city lack at the moment.

Don't agree about us though, seen more than enough to know we can compete.

That is my honest opinion lads.

Not a dig, not slagging you off just an honest assessment from what I've seen from you lads early on this season.

Obviously we all know you had a MUCH better squad last season than your current one but with MM at the helm I firmly think you have a great manager for the future, but unfortunately not right now.

From an outsiders point of view I would say your squad is weak probably the weakest of the current top 6-8 teams. You have some good young players & of course you have experience in Miller & Earnie but I don't see that match winner you really do need in the Championship. Taarabt for us was immense but he couldn't be half the player he was without players like Derry, Clint Hill, Jamie Mackie & Ali Faurlin around him last year that gave him the license to do what he did. I don't see a Cardiff player that can take games by the scruff of the neck & lead you into battle (Bellamy)

I also don't feel that MM has been backed sufficiently by your owners or I'm pretty sure he would of brought in a couple of better quality players than you did. Miller & Earnie were good 3 years ago & I honestly don't see them getting the goals you will need to fire you up the league.

You are already 7 points off of Southampton (counting a far superior GD) & get a few injuries & I think you will free fall.

Unlucky today, how did you play? As I say not a dig at all purely a football based opinion but as always would love to be proved wrong as its no secret I'd love to see Cardiff City in the Premiership as you are a big big club who would flourish in the top flight.

Unfortunately it won't be this season.

Prediction 13th.

funny you come on and make your statement after a loss, even tough we beat the current leaders with a depleted side in mid week

V. funny eh?

That is my honest opinion lads.

Not a dig, not slagging you off just an honest assessment from what I've seen from you lads early on this season.

Obviously we all know you had a MUCH better squad last season than your current one but with MM at the helm I firmly think you have a great manager for the future, but unfortunately not right now.

From an outsiders point of view I would say your squad is weak probably the weakest of the current top 6-8 teams. You have some good young players & of course you have experience in Miller & Earnie but I don't see that match winner you really do need in the Championship. Taarabt for us was immense but he couldn't be half the player he was without players like Derry, Clint Hill, Jamie Mackie & Ali Faurlin around him last year that gave him the license to do what he did. I don't see a Cardiff player that can take games by the scruff of the neck & lead you into battle (Bellamy)

I also don't feel that MM has been backed sufficiently by your owners or I'm pretty sure he would of brought in a couple of better quality players than you did. Miller & Earnie were good 3 years ago & I honestly don't see them getting the goals you will need to fire you up the league.

You are already 7 points off of Southampton (counting a far superior GD) & get a few injuries & I think you will free fall.

Unlucky today, how did you play? As I say not a dig at all purely a football based opinion but as always would love to be proved wrong as its no secret I'd love to see Cardiff City in the Premiership as you are a big big club who would flourish in the top flight.

Unfortunately it won't be this season.

Prediction 13th.

Ridiculous

I know you post on here regularly, but please refrain from coming on here
all condescending like BillyBigTime premiership boy.

We ALL KNOW we are a player or two short, but even without them we
we will be at least 8th by xmas.

Ask yourself why we dont all post on YOUR boards...

It cos we're not interested.

No offence

Hahaha you sausage

8th by xmas? Maybe but 13th by mid May & that's when it really matters.

We shall see then eh. Even our most miserable supporters have seen enough so far
to know we are only lacking a spark up front. But even without that we are better
than most teams in this division. Our injuries lately have been shocking, yet we
still drew with Leicester, beat Southampton.. and only lost 2-1 at Hull even after
our LAST walking striker went off injured.

You worry about QPR kid eh

We'll be fine

Stan as far as Jay is concerned he always starts on fire for a new Club then he just slips away. You will be no different. And he will be at his best but how many goals has he scored ? Yeah none and that is at his best. Nice to see QPR doing well mate

That's the spirit Taffy lad

Plenty echo your sentiments with regards to how you are playing so as you say we will see.

My point being I don't think the players you have got will get you up simple as that. Even some good loan signings will make it a massive task & that's if MM is even allowed to bring in who he wants.

Leicester, West Ham, Brighton, Hull, Burnley, Boro, Ipswich, Birmingham & Leeds all have stronger squads than yourselves in my opinion and the 3 promoted will be from these.

I saw your highlights from Hull & I have to say although I can't comment on the overall game the 2 goals you conceded were shocking, first one the Hull player was granted way to much space & the second was unbelievable, your defence let a ball cross the whole of your goal mouth bypassing 5 Cardiff players til the one Hull player connected & slotted it away.

You won't go up with defending like that & further strengthens my points you just don't have enough quality.

No need to get arsey mate its a football debate & I've never once come across as anything but fair & straight down the line in all my threads. I even said on this thread I may have judged you to early but on reflection I will stick with my original post that its a long season & I don't think you have either the quality or quantity to get promoted.

Opinions are like arse holes-everyone's got one but no one wants to see the other guys!!

That's the spirit Taffy lad

Plenty echo your sentiments with regards to how you are playing so as you say we will see.

My point being I don't think the players you have got will get you up simple as that. Even some good loan signings will make it a massive task & that's if MM is even allowed to bring in who he wants.

Leicester, West Ham, Brighton, Hull, Burnley, Boro, Ipswich, Birmingham & Leeds all have stronger squads than yourselves in my opinion and the 3 promoted will be from these.

I saw your highlights from Hull & I have to say although I can't comment on the overall game the 2 goals you conceded were shocking, first one the Hull player was granted way to much space & the second was unbelievable, your defence let a ball cross the whole of your goal mouth bypassing 5 Cardiff players til the one Hull player connected & slotted it away.

You won't go up with defending like that & further strengthens my points you just don't have enough quality.

No need to get arsey mate its a football debate & I've never once come across as anything but fair & straight down the line in all my threads. I even said on this thread I may have judged you to early but on reflection I will stick with my original post that its a long season & I don't think you have either the quality or quantity to get promoted.

Opinions are like arse holes-everyone's got one but no one wants to see the other guys!!

My original reply was after 12 pints of Stella, what did you f*cking expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EH?????

I like your style Taffy lad.

We will continue this later just jumping in a sherbert for the 2 & a half mile trot to Foolham.

Think your post answered my question actually.

New manager
New players
Playing catch up after 10 games.

One thing I learned from last season from us is you MUST get off to a good start & bank points as teams around you will keep on winning, especially this year with the quality that's come down.

With the things you mentioned that I listed above I don't think it is ideal for a promotion push.

But hey what do I know. As I've said many times its just my opinion but we will see how things pan out.

MM must be backed imho to give you a fair crack of the whip.

The new manager has got a team that will crawl onto the pitch and play if they have too.
The new players are busting a gut, and once we find an ideal strike partner for Miller we
will start thrashing teams. As for playing catch up?? Every season in this division a team
has come from nowhere after xmas. Stan, we are only TWO wins off the top of the table.
We dont know that Malky isnt being backed. Perhaps he just wont sign players he dont
really want, that wont fit into his plans.

With an incomplete squad we have already beaten West Ham, Southampton, drawn with
Leicester with a team that couldnt walk, taken blackpool to the cleaners on their own
ground in the most one-sided 1-1 I've ever seen (yes, it was that missing striker we needed!)

Your entitled to your opinion Stan, but the bare facts are....

Your opinion is ill-informed, picked up from snippets you've seen on 'The Championship' show

enjoy your day in Fulham

Highlights tell a lot. Shows me your shape, how you set up & most importantly how you defend. Mix that with newspaper reports & fans views on here I'd say I'm not far wrong. But again only my opinion.

I understand your team battles, so does Derby's have a look on Sky Sports 2 but its done them no favours so far as similar to yourselves they have no stand out players like a lot of other teams do at the top end of the Championship have.

Btw-Jay has been superb for us so far. Proper manager you see. Gets the best out of players.

I admire your faith in your team though mate. That's a good quality. Fair play.

BOTHROYD BEEN SUPERB 4 U, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN GAMES HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN LIKE A BAD BOXER LIKE WHEN WITH US ALLWAYS ON HIS ARSE? PLAYED FOR ENGLAND THOUGHT HE WAS THE KIDDIE THEN SHOWED HIS TRUE COLOURS
LAZY B---ARD THEN OUT ON PISS WITH FEW OTHER P--CKS NIGHT BEFORE BIG GAME WHICH WE LOST 3-0 CHEATED
EVERYONE F---ING WELL RID?

Bothroyd... Goals pay the rent for strikers, and he lives in a v small house.... In Balham or E1, somewhere like that.

Thanks for that assessment of our season, Stan.

In return, I have a feeling you'll hold Fulham to six or so goals.

Would you like to comment on QPR now Chief ? Give me six good reasons why you will stay up.