Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:04 am
RIP minors.
Sad sad day, they were doing a job that I could never do, makes me and people of my generation realise how lucky we are.
Sad sad day, they were doing a job that I could never do, makes me and people of my generation realise how lucky we are.
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:11 am
Never ever thought i would see anything like this again in my lifetime
RIP to the dour brave souls who lost their life just doing their job to support their familys
RIP to the dour brave souls who lost their life just doing their job to support their familys
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:45 am
Thoughts go out to the families of those that lost their lives.
RIP to the miners
RIP to the miners
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:06 am
A tragedy. Respects to the famillies.
Private mining is extremely hard - its very dangerous (all mining is). They get paid by the amount they fill into the dram and have to do all they're own work, mining, propping, laying tracks, digging out, pumping water, lighting, oxygen/air etc etc.
Underground in complete darkness working on their bellies and knees drilling, smashing,hacking and hammering and shovelling.
For a days pay boys.
it was awful to watch this unravelling on TV - and even though i've never mined - the whole of south wales is built on mining. Our valleys and cities are here because of it.
Its a part of our culture and thats why it has impacted on a lot of people who know nothing about these brave men.
Respect to all miners
"i'll be there, I'll be there, with my little pick and shovel, I'll be there"
Private mining is extremely hard - its very dangerous (all mining is). They get paid by the amount they fill into the dram and have to do all they're own work, mining, propping, laying tracks, digging out, pumping water, lighting, oxygen/air etc etc.
Underground in complete darkness working on their bellies and knees drilling, smashing,hacking and hammering and shovelling.
For a days pay boys.
it was awful to watch this unravelling on TV - and even though i've never mined - the whole of south wales is built on mining. Our valleys and cities are here because of it.
Its a part of our culture and thats why it has impacted on a lot of people who know nothing about these brave men.
Respect to all miners
"i'll be there, I'll be there, with my little pick and shovel, I'll be there"
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:29 am
Secondly, Corky I was gutted when that s*** Thatcher closed the mines but that mine where the tragedy happened doesnt look the safest to me. What you reckon?
The one and only legacy that was good about the mine closures was the fact that families would be saved the horror of what those four families had to endure Yesterday. Everyday I worked in the colliery my mother was worried sick and eventually one day her fears were realised when my leg was ripped off at the coal face...but I was alive and have now outlived my parents and have children/grandchildren of my own..that was not always the case and there were many fatalities in the collieries over the years ...the worse being in Senghenydd on 14 October 1913, killing 439 miners. It is the worst Mining accident in the United Kingdom, and one of the most serious in terms of loss of life anywhere in the world since.
The mine in which Yesterdays tragic events occurred is a drift mine, sometimes known as" levels" are regulated by the mines inspectorate who check the workings to ensure they are safe and fit for purpose. The seven men working at the Gleision colliery would have far more skills than a normal miner working in a mechanised colliery and that is why hope remained strong Yesterday, also we have the finest mines rescue teams in the world.
Drift mines are almost always at risk from water, which is controlled by pumps but sometimes it is not detected and there are many underground reservoirs or old workings that have been filled with water that has seeped in from the ground above and if breached they can prove fatal, there will now be a huge investigation and the results will be made known to other mine owners and workers as soon as possible in order that lessons can be learnt...that is how it works...we used to get monthly lists of fatalities and serious injuries sent to all the collieries...not to scare miners but for lessons to be learnt.
Thankfully three got out and one family won't have to suffer a double loss of father and son...may the four that didn't make it out of the pit rest in peace.
The one and only legacy that was good about the mine closures was the fact that families would be saved the horror of what those four families had to endure Yesterday. Everyday I worked in the colliery my mother was worried sick and eventually one day her fears were realised when my leg was ripped off at the coal face...but I was alive and have now outlived my parents and have children/grandchildren of my own..that was not always the case and there were many fatalities in the collieries over the years ...the worse being in Senghenydd on 14 October 1913, killing 439 miners. It is the worst Mining accident in the United Kingdom, and one of the most serious in terms of loss of life anywhere in the world since.
The mine in which Yesterdays tragic events occurred is a drift mine, sometimes known as" levels" are regulated by the mines inspectorate who check the workings to ensure they are safe and fit for purpose. The seven men working at the Gleision colliery would have far more skills than a normal miner working in a mechanised colliery and that is why hope remained strong Yesterday, also we have the finest mines rescue teams in the world.
Drift mines are almost always at risk from water, which is controlled by pumps but sometimes it is not detected and there are many underground reservoirs or old workings that have been filled with water that has seeped in from the ground above and if breached they can prove fatal, there will now be a huge investigation and the results will be made known to other mine owners and workers as soon as possible in order that lessons can be learnt...that is how it works...we used to get monthly lists of fatalities and serious injuries sent to all the collieries...not to scare miners but for lessons to be learnt.
Thankfully three got out and one family won't have to suffer a double loss of father and son...may the four that didn't make it out of the pit rest in peace.
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:37 am
RIP all four miners!!
Earning a living and then suddenly they lose their lives,
Condolences to each and everyone of their families.
Earning a living and then suddenly they lose their lives,
Condolences to each and everyone of their families.
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:13 pm
Another sad day for Wales as a whole.
Great idea to raise some cash and to show our support at this sad time
Great idea to raise some cash and to show our support at this sad time
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:31 pm
Corky, that must have been an horrific experience for you & your family, my uncle lost his leg in the coalface at Cwm when the cutter chain whipped when he was crossing over it.When i stated training down Tondu they showed us a film on what kind of accidents can occur underground,it was just hitting home the safety aspect, i can remember sitting there & wondering what the fook have i let myself in for.Great bunch of lads though & the comaraderie was second to none.The events of the last few days really hit a raw nerve & hearing of the tragic news brought a tear to the eye.
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:20 am
LutonBluebird wrote:RIP all four miners!!
Earning a living and then suddenly they lose their lives,
Condolences to each and everyone of their families.
Jules, thats what makes it even worse RIP
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:13 pm
Very emotional time for all.............RIP lads
Re: " The South Wales Miners RIP "
Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:33 pm
Very sad indeed. I always remember a story told by mt Grancha who worked the local mines around here, mainly Penalta i believe.
Back in the early thirties it was really the only profession and even though My grancha lost his two step Brothers down the Mines he was a very proud Miner and remained so until his Death in 1979. My Nan hated the Mines and was determined that none of her Children would work down the Mines. That is why the Family moved to Bristol in the late Thirties after my Grancha walked there to find a Job and somewhere to live.
But back to the story, one night my Grancha had a bad dream about a fall and when he woke up he could not feel his leg (Slept awkward) but he was so traumatised by this dream my Nan did not let him go to work that day. Now for him not to go it had to be bad as he would not get paid. But that Day there was a fall at the Mine and my Grancha's Butty was killed and that stayed with him always.
Back in the early thirties it was really the only profession and even though My grancha lost his two step Brothers down the Mines he was a very proud Miner and remained so until his Death in 1979. My Nan hated the Mines and was determined that none of her Children would work down the Mines. That is why the Family moved to Bristol in the late Thirties after my Grancha walked there to find a Job and somewhere to live.
But back to the story, one night my Grancha had a bad dream about a fall and when he woke up he could not feel his leg (Slept awkward) but he was so traumatised by this dream my Nan did not let him go to work that day. Now for him not to go it had to be bad as he would not get paid. But that Day there was a fall at the Mine and my Grancha's Butty was killed and that stayed with him always.