A QUESTION FOR YOU STAN

I also thought that it was the football league that contacted QPR and made them aware that they were in breach of a rule, and told them to report the situation to the FA. were they just hiding the fact they already knew, and were trying to sort out their paper work on the quiet?

Nukes- QPR have already said in they're statement the didn't deliberately do anything wrong, by saying deliberately they have obviously naused up something so I expect that issue to be punished with a fine.

Comprende?


Very confident all will be ok.

The FA dont penalise "issues" they penalise breaches of their regulations.

What about the false document signing ????

If they did or didnt know why manipulate this part ??????

Nothing proved so how could I possibly comment.

Clerical error as I see things not a cover up.

I think we might get an idea about the points deduction on saturday, the trophy is usually engraved there and then like the F.A cup. Wonder if it will this saturday (given that they get the points to seal it) knowing that trying to make a correction on it will make it look shit..

i hope we aint gonna turn on stan just because he got his views on qpr,if it was on the other foot,we would be doing the same about our club!I dont really understand these rules n regulations from the FA,so i'm gonna wait till the FA gives their verdict on the 6th may.Play nice

Agree. I accept the charges laid down by the FA are serious BUT despite the acquisition of "enough evidence to warrant a hearing" I still think we should 'wait and see' before getting too carried away with rumours and gossip....

The BEST thing WE can do is influence our OWN results and make sure we claim that 2nd place....it could just be the SAFEST place to be IF the proverbial hits the fan!!

Nothing proved so how could I possibly comment.

Clerical error as I see things not a cover up.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... eague.html


Guilty
By SHAUN CUSTIS
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QPR'S automatic promotion into the Premier League is set to be blocked by the FA.
SunSport understands the runaway Championship leaders are likely to face a big points deduction - possibly up to 15 - if they are found guilty of breaking strict third-party ownership rules over the signing of Alejandro Faurlin.

The evidence against the West London club is said to be damning and they could now end up in the play-offs.

The only winners would be Cardiff and Norwich who could then go up automatically.

The hearing into the signing of the Argentine midfielder two years ago begins next Tuesday and a verdict will be delivered three days later.

A four-man panel will comprise an independent QC, two from the FA's disciplinary panel and a football expert who will be either a former player or boss.

In theory, they should begin with a blank sheet of paper but many at the FA are openly discussing the case and reckon QPR - five points clear at the top of the table - are in big trouble. Those who have seen the evidence say Rangers are defending the indefensible.

An FA source said: "There's no question QPR have broken the rules. They know it as well. The only debate is what to do about it.

"If they aren't found guilty you might as well scrap the rules about third-party owners."

Some within the corridors of power believe QPR should be hit hard because they were well aware they were acting outside the regulations.

When West Ham were punished over the Carlos Tevez affair they were actually found guilty of failure to disclose information - not of breaking third-party ownership rules because such legislation did not exist.

Since then the FA have made third-party ownership illegal so the argument is QPR were worse offenders because they were well aware they were committing an offence.

If Neil Warnock's side are found guilty they will have seven days to appeal.

However, if QPR take legal action or other clubs decide to seek legal avenues because of points they lost when Faurlin played against them, the whole issue could drag on throughout the summer.

The nightmare scenario could even be that the Championship promotion play-offs do not take place at all until the issue is resolved.

Nothing proved so how could I possibly comment.

Clerical error as I see things not a cover up.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... eague.html


Guilty
By SHAUN CUSTIS
Published: Today
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QPR'S automatic promotion into the Premier League is set to be blocked by the FA.
SunSport understands the runaway Championship leaders are likely to face a big points deduction - possibly up to 15 - if they are found guilty of breaking strict third-party ownership rules over the signing of Alejandro Faurlin.

The evidence against the West London club is said to be damning and they could now end up in the play-offs.

The only winners would be Cardiff and Norwich who could then go up automatically.

The hearing into the signing of the Argentine midfielder two years ago begins next Tuesday and a verdict will be delivered three days later.

A four-man panel will comprise an independent QC, two from the FA's disciplinary panel and a football expert who will be either a former player or boss.

The actual 3 man panel would consist of 1 solicitor or barrister with at least 7 yrs experience in this field.

In theory, they should begin with a blank sheet of paper but many at the FA are openly discussing the case and reckon QPR - five points clear at the top of the table - are in big trouble. Those who have seen the evidence say Rangers are defending the indefensible.

Reckoning means nothing, and the only one making the decisions for penalty will be the IRC

An FA source said: "There's no question QPR have broken the rules. They know it as well. The only debate is what to do about it. (QPR have already pleaded guilty to a number of the charges, but have said they did it unintentionally!)

"If they aren't found guilty you might as well scrap the rules about third-party owners." (exactly! 1 day over or 10 days over registration date - the offence was committed!)

Some within the corridors of power believe QPR should be hit hard because they were well aware they were acting outside the regulations.

When West Ham were punished over the Carlos Tevez affair they were actually found guilty of failure to disclose information - not of breaking third-party ownership rules because such legislation did not exist.

Since then the FA have made third-party ownership illegal so the argument is QPR were worse offenders because they were well aware they were committing an offence.

If Neil Warnock's side are found guilty they will have seven days to appeal. (Wrong - they will have 4 days to appeal and the response can take up to 2 days - leaving enough time for playoffs to begin as normal)

However, if QPR take legal action or other clubs decide to seek legal avenues because of points they lost when Faurlin played against them, the whole issue could drag on throughout the summer.

The nightmare scenario could even be that the Championship promotion play-offs do not take place at all until the issue is resolved. I don't believe this will happen!!

Nukes- QPR have already said in they're statement the didn't deliberately do anything wrong, by saying deliberately they have obviously naused up something so I expect that issue to be punished with a fine.

Comprende?


Very confident all will be ok.

What issue? unless you know which offence they unintentionally ballsed up, then you can't expect a fine.

it is you that seems to be clutching at straws?

Nukes- QPR have already said in they're statement the didn't deliberately do anything wrong, by saying deliberately they have obviously naused up something so I expect that issue to be punished with a fine.

Comprende?


Very confident all will be ok.

What issue? unless you know which offence they unintentionally ballsed up, then you can't expect a fine.

it is you that seems to be clutching at straws?

Merlin

it was an accidental fraudulent document that they issued to cover the illegal registration of the player by an unlicensed agent.
Could happen to anybody

Unlicensed agent? Really?


Hope you win the 2 games or you are gonna have a very bad summer after all this has blown over.

Unlicensed agent? Really?


Hope you win the 2 games or you are gonna have a very bad summer after all this has blown over.

In the eyes of the fa and fifa the agent was unlicensed because he was not registered with fifa hence the ineligibility of the player for the games in question.
If you were just going to get fined stan and since this appeared as far back as september why has it not been done and dusted by now.
Do you really believe issuing a fraudelent document to the league will just carry a fine

7 charges, 6 I believe denied hence the reason for a hearing.

Fraudlent papers has not been proven so again hot air.

Once all the facts come to light we will know all there is to know.

Unlicensed agent? Really?


Hope you win the 2 games or you are gonna have a very bad summer after all this has blown over.

In the eyes of the fa and fifa the agent was unlicensed because he was not registered with fifa hence the ineligibility of the player for the games in question.
If you were just going to get fined stan and since this appeared as far back as september why has it not been done and dusted by now.
Do you really believe issuing a fraudelent document to the league will just carry a fine

Actually he was FIFA registered, Just wasn't registered with the FA at the time...

I think everyone is forgetting about the transfer fee though? I'm pretty sure the 3rd party owners would have received part of the fee illegally....