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Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:37 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
Daya wrote:
billy ronson wrote:just out of curiosity Daya...? no meaning to offend - what are your views on the Hammers moving to new Olympic Stadium? Mixed , unsure of the outcome and my heart doesn't want to move there.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised that once that is done to see Gold and Sullivan look to sell the club to rich local or overseas investors ? What do most hammers fans think about this - how are Gold and Sullivan looked upon ? Are WHU heading the same way as Cardiff once they move as they will need to attract more fans to the ground and obviously that will mean swaying local and neutral fans that WHU are the team to follow so will be keen to leave their reputation behind? Your probably right they are probably heading the same way , doesnt mean i have to like it, the only prayer is that it doesn't, bad enough happening at Cardiff , let alone West Ham!

Sometimes I miss Ninian Park but without the new stadium I think we may have financially been the Pompey of the championship and would have been relegated to league 1 :cry: I know some will say that we wouldn't have had the debts associated with the new build but we already owed 24 million and also our capacity was going to be reduced due to the standing rules and no one would have been interested in buying us. Sam knew that hence why he was committed to moving. With the money now in the game a move is often the only alternative but its the way the tradition is carried over to me is the important factor , at CCS that has not happened especially with egg chasers involved and a board of Malaysians not knowing the history and tradition of the Cardiff Fan and more interested in the Malaysian way and their own people.

I understand some of the things you are pointing out BUT Blackpool have shown we the fans and our club don't have to "sell our souls" when you get in the premier! Blackpool have kept their tradition and have a board of locals interested in football until now anyway , especially when promoted. Cardiff are going the Cosway/Malaysian route , a good example all the goings on in Malaysia with Academies etc, you dont see Blackpool doing that.
It is down to us the fans to make the atmosphere and I think if we can't even enjoy and make any atmospshere in our current position then I dread to think what it will be like if we have an average season or are struggling!
Theres the problem though when you have dispelled and dispersed the hard core followers for the newbies, the newbies stop going and the hard core are dispondent because the way they have been treated.




Blackpool might not be a very good example. Owen Oysten, the majority shareholder is a convicted rapist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Oyston

:(

Like the changes or loathe them without the Malaysian input we were going bust.

The stadium may have a bit less allure for the traditional, but the kids love it , the family stand is worlds apart from the old one- and they are the future for the club.




The atmosphere at the new stadium is down to the supporters and the supporters alone.
stoke have managed to take their passion to the new ground but i will say that we should have maybe pushed the canton end as the singing section the first time season tickets went on sale.

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:18 pm

Steve , its the changing face of football and its simply not to many as not as enjoyable as well as at the same time more expensive - you can see that from many posts. you cant force feed supporters/customers, personally i dont like it others dont too and others will, its not Libya its a free state! For me and me only its all being washed away and unlike before whatever reason going down the City every other Saturday is just not the same and i cant ever see it coming back. In truth Premiership football may keep me going next season but if not probably knock it on the head instead of going to a souless stadium with a lack lustre atmosphere , paying over the odds prices and watching shit football on a shit pitch that looks like a cabbage patch. Harsh but true.

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:26 pm

MOZZER1 wrote:your not far wrong dayo . my lad played against the academy the other week and most of them were french !



Checked on this claim today and the truth is we have 2 French players registered with the academy, so not quite the numbers arsenal and the like have, perhaps the rest of the lads in the team have learnt French to hide the tactical moves they call out during the game and fool the opponents.lol

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:31 pm

BigGwynram wrote:
MOZZER1 wrote:your not far wrong dayo . my lad played against the academy the other week and most of them were french !



Checked on this claim today and the truth is we have 2 French players registered with the academy, so not quite the numbers arsenal and the like have, perhaps the rest of the lads in the team have learnt French to hide the tactical moves they call out during the game and fool the opponents.lol


Both are crap as well , you should have checked out what and where the released players are as well Gwyn.!

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:06 pm

Daya wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:
MOZZER1 wrote:your not far wrong dayo . my lad played against the academy the other week and most of them were french !



Checked on this claim today and the truth is we have 2 French players registered with the academy, so not quite the numbers arsenal and the like have, perhaps the rest of the lads in the team have learnt French to hide the tactical moves they call out during the game and fool the opponents.lol


Both are crap as well , you should have checked out what and where the released players are as well Gwyn.!


Why?

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:19 pm

Daya wrote:Questions regards the actions of Cardiff City Staff regarding everything the majority complain about, the changes, etc etc etc Carl summed it up in his update - the reason too why " old fans" were edited from the filming footage. The malaysians dont want any of that riff raff because,

" The club are hopeful that there will be further investment coming as part of these visits and the hope is to build Cardiff City as the number one British team throughout Malaysia."


ITS f**k ALL TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY THESE DAYS FELLA'S - IT'S ABOUT THEIR PRESTIGE IN THEIR HOMELAND.

THATS WHY IT'S NOT THE SAME ANYMORE THE LOCALS ARE NOT WANTED AS ITS NOT THE RIGHT IMAGE.


Of course locals are wanted they will support the team and help pay some of the bills, almost all the teams in the premiership and quite a few in the Championship are in the same situation.
They won't change everyone keep the faith...........

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:25 pm

Daya

You seem totally disillusioned with the club and the future it has, which as along standing fan is a shame. It seems the academy most have really upset you at some time, but without knowing the details of how they work they must be doing something right surely ?

I suppose football is all about opinions, and the academy may look at players differently to you

Mr Ardley and co would no doubt say if your such a good judge of a young player perhaps you should have a job in football not furniture ?

keep the faith, and don't get old , grumpy and bitter. Try and enjoy the changeing face of football :roll:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:42 pm

diacap wrote:Daya

You seem totally disillusioned with the club and the future it has, which as along standing fan is a shame. It seems the academy most have really upset you at some time, but without knowing the details of how they work they must be doing something right surely ?

I suppose football is all about opinions, and the academy may look at players differently to you

Mr Ardley and co would no doubt say if your such a good judge of a young player perhaps you should have a job in football not furniture ?

keep the faith, and don't get old , grumpy and bitter. Try and enjoy the changeing face of football :roll:


its nothing to do with Academy mate - that was simply a lucky escape! old yea ha ha

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:49 pm

Checked on this claim today and the truth is we have 2 French players registered with the academy, so not quite the numbers arsenal and the like have, perhaps the rest of the lads in the team have learnt French to hide the tactical moves they call out during the game and fool the opponents.lol[/quote]

Both are crap as well , you should have checked out what and where the released players are as well Gwyn.![/quote]

Why?[/quote]

to see what quality has been released and picked up by others and see the lost revenue or playing stock of the future including Manchester United , now i would say they know a tad or two. City only realised their mistake after that one was released and then tried getting him back after they had opened the stable door!

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:51 pm

Daya wrote:Checked on this claim today and the truth is we have 2 French players registered with the academy, so not quite the numbers arsenal and the like have, perhaps the rest of the lads in the team have learnt French to hide the tactical moves they call out during the game and fool the opponents.lol


Both are crap as well , you should have checked out what and where the released players are as well Gwyn.![/quote]

Why?[/quote]

to see what quality has been released and picked up by others and see the lost revenue or playing stock of the future including Manchester United , now i would say they know a tad or two. City only realised their mistake after that one was released and then tried getting him back after they had opened the stable door![/quote]


Well that's disgusting,perhaps we should all go and support other teams now then and that should help ssolve the problem them and teach them a lesson. :?

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:55 pm

Bumping your gums again Gwyn with nonsense, good evening to you , have more important issues to press on with tonight although would love to stay and banter, good luck with your fund rasing!

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:19 pm

Daya why dont you worry more about your first love,WEST HAM :roll:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:28 pm

earnieblue wrote:Daya why dont you worry more about your first love,WEST HAM :roll:


great point thats exactly what im going to do.

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:30 pm

Daya wrote:
earnieblue wrote:Daya why dont you worry more about your first love,WEST HAM :roll:


great point thats exactly what im going to do.


im forever blowing bubbles....;)

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:43 pm

daya are me and you the only west ham fans here? :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:06 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:daya are me and you the only west ham fans here? :lol: :ayatollah:


hundreds of closet ones!

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:06 pm

Daya wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:daya are me and you the only west ham fans here? :lol: :ayatollah:


hundreds of closet ones!

;)

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:54 pm

they were even wearing the shirt and singing the songs at Millwall! same shirt sponsor too! its all adding up now! :lol:

Apart from we refuted the Malaysians advances and took the local east end kid intsead!

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:55 pm

Daya wrote:they were even wearing the shirt and singing the songs at Millwall! same shirt sponsor too! its all adding up now! :lol:

Apart from we refuted the Malaysians advances and took the local east end kid intsead!


you watch cardiff players will leave for west ham

...cardiff city...west hams new feeder club :D

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 6:45 pm

Daya wrote:Look how much encoragement was given to supporters to take along malaysian flags by Welsh Directors.

They know the big plan but they get their dough back.

Oh how right you could be, Daya.

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 6:54 pm

I guess we have to hope that Steve Borley (as he is a fan as well as a director)continues to be involved to make sure they understand our culture as much as we need to understand their ways and culture


Hmmmm

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:14 pm

That's a bit of an old drag up Tyler !!

Must have took you ages to find. Wish I could pick the lottery numbers like that . Hey it's your club and I wish you well for the future I really do , been one hell of a week for you first the play off defeat and then all the changes coming to light which were always going to happen , truth is there ain't nothing you can do about it so you might as well just let it flow no one else is gonna chuck you the investment at the end of the day to bail you out - clearly when you hear of the debts it's been financial carnage gone in what 10 years from 1 million debt to 72 whilst rising what 2 divisions ? In the cold day of light you don't have any choice now weather you like it or not and will have to accept the future as there in reality is no other answer I can see apart from try and convince your Malaysian board to some of your points of view .

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:16 pm

I was searching for something else, and it just popped up.

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:18 pm

MOZZER1 wrote:and to run salt into the wounds my lads side beat them too :lol:

junior mozz made his debut in the welsh league yesterday at the age of 17

had a stormer too against much experienced opposition :ayatollah:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:18 pm

tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:I was searching for something else, and it just popped up.


I dream of my lottery euro numbers popping up like that :lol:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:22 pm

Daya wrote:That's a bit of an old drag up Tyler !!

Must have took you ages to find. Wish I could pick the lottery numbers like that . Hey it's your club and I wish you well for the future I really do , been one hell of a week for you first the play off defeat and then all the changes coming to light which were always going to happen , truth is there ain't nothing you can do about it so you might as well just let it flow no one else is gonna chuck you the investment at the end of the day to bail you out - clearly when you hear of the debts it's been financial carnage gone in what 10 years from 1 million debt to 72 whilst rising what 2 divisions ? In the cold day of light you don't have any choice now weather you like it or not and will have to accept the future as there in reality is no other answer I can see apart from try and convince your Malaysian board to some of your points of view .


this is definitely the most constructive and true post i have ever seen from you

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:27 pm

Daya wrote:That's a bit of an old drag up Tyler !!

Must have took you ages to find. Wish I could pick the lottery numbers like that . Hey it's your club and I wish you well for the future I really do , been one hell of a week for you first the play off defeat and then all the changes coming to light which were always going to happen , truth is there ain't nothing you can do about it so you might as well just let it flow no one else is gonna chuck you the investment at the end of the day to bail you out - clearly when you hear of the debts it's been financial carnage gone in what 10 years from 1 million debt to 72 whilst rising what 2 divisions ? In the cold day of light you don't have any choice now weather you like it or not and will have to accept the future as there in reality is no other answer I can see apart from try and convince your Malaysian board to some of your points of view .

f**k me daya you had the same inbox polo had with the mafia hit list gwyns been harping on about :lol: or are you talking normal for once, is he high :?

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:29 pm

bluebird1977 wrote:
Daya wrote:That's a bit of an old drag up Tyler !!

Must have took you ages to find. Wish I could pick the lottery numbers like that . Hey it's your club and I wish you well for the future I really do , been one hell of a week for you first the play off defeat and then all the changes coming to light which were always going to happen , truth is there ain't nothing you can do about it so you might as well just let it flow no one else is gonna chuck you the investment at the end of the day to bail you out - clearly when you hear of the debts it's been financial carnage gone in what 10 years from 1 million debt to 72 whilst rising what 2 divisions ? In the cold day of light you don't have any choice now weather you like it or not and will have to accept the future as there in reality is no other answer I can see apart from try and convince your Malaysian board to some of your points of view .

f**k me daya you had the same inbox polo had with the mafia hit list gwyns been harping on about :lol: or are you talking normal for once, is he high :?

I was thinking the same :lol:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:31 pm

polo wrote:
bluebird1977 wrote:
Daya wrote:That's a bit of an old drag up Tyler !!

Must have took you ages to find. Wish I could pick the lottery numbers like that . Hey it's your club and I wish you well for the future I really do , been one hell of a week for you first the play off defeat and then all the changes coming to light which were always going to happen , truth is there ain't nothing you can do about it so you might as well just let it flow no one else is gonna chuck you the investment at the end of the day to bail you out - clearly when you hear of the debts it's been financial carnage gone in what 10 years from 1 million debt to 72 whilst rising what 2 divisions ? In the cold day of light you don't have any choice now weather you like it or not and will have to accept the future as there in reality is no other answer I can see apart from try and convince your Malaysian board to some of your points of view .

f**k me daya you had the same inbox polo had with the mafia hit list gwyns been harping on about :lol: or are you talking normal for once, is he high :?

I was thinking the same :lol:

:lol:

Re: HERES THE REASON TO MANY OF YOUR VARIOUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:32 pm

pretty spot on daya,my bro works within the club and i hear things ...thing is i dont put anything on here as u get shot down ...when it does happen lets see what the red fans think then eh !!.....prem league aint everything.