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Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:42 pm

Talk about keeping the best until last ;)

Best update yet IMHO. :ayatollah:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:43 pm

DaveSheffield wrote:"What was Dave Jones' reason for telling Jay to turn around?"

Erm, possibly because he's aware of how important Jay is to the team and how talented he is, that we have no need to let him go and that doing so would be detrimental to the team.


And IF we don't go up, then yet again, it's money the club have lost.

4m for Bothroyd, 6m for Ledley.

And we wonder why we've high debts, why the Malaysians are bankrolling us?

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:43 pm

DaveSheffield wrote:
jbirdrules wrote:Really good update Carl :ayatollah:

So has Jay signed a pre-contract agreement with Fulham?? :ayatollah:



Where does anyone ever suggest or say anything of the sort?


Mate, he went off to talk with Fulham when we accepted the £4million offer.

So yeah a pre-contract agreement is more than possible.. :roll:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:44 pm

Great update, Jay's form and attitude seemed to have changed, it's hard to stay in a job when you know you are moving on, that would explain a lot. Still he seemed to have stepped up his performance yesterday, lets hope he can keep it going.

DJ's PA must be shitting herself reading this, "any news then love ", "oh yes Dave, Martin O'Neil is being lined up as manager next season"........... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If it's true I am not sure that part is going to help us through the next 7 games ??????
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Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:44 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Merlin wrote:Cheers carl! :ayatollah:

No worries, Right I am taking Alison out for a Mother's day drink, she deserves it :ayatollah:


Dont water down her drinks Carl! :lol:




THE REAL TRUTH NOT THE WATERED DOWN VERSION


Bothroyd refused to return to Cardiff as he wanted to do the deal and had a massive bust up with Jones whilst on his way to London. Jones begged the Malaysians not to sell him and promised he wouldnt ask for any more money, the Malaysians then agreed. Bothroyd was furious and he and Jones have hardly spoken since, hes then as we have all seen played as he doesnt want to be here !!

the bottom line is hes sulking as normal like a big baby .

As for all this England International stuff just over a week ago i spoke to Fabio about it at the Grove hotel just outside Watford.

Fabio was unimpressed with his desire and it came across it would be unlikely he will ever get another opportunity, Fabio addressed it more as a trial because he had heard a few things but rarely watchs Championship football.

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:45 pm

Bluebina wrote:Great update, Jay's form and attitude seemed to have changed, it's hard to stay in a job when you know you are moving on, that would explain a lot. Still he seemed to have stepped up his performance yesterday, lets hope he can keep it going.

DJ's PA must be shitting herself reading this, "any news then love ", "oh yes Dave, Martin O'Neil is being lined up as manager next season"........... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If it's true I am not sure that part is going to help us through the next 7 games ??????


:lol: :lol:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:46 pm

Omg!!! that was the longest yet

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:46 pm

cheers carl, this end of season dinner, i was going, have been to a number of them, but we , have all decided to give it a miss,, the dinner is on the same day as the qpr game, nothing to celebrate then? and i heard they want you sat down at your table,ready to eat at 6-30, and now the players and staff, will be gone by 10, the players ,always wanted to leave as soon as they could, get in to town,, bar 1 or 2, so, it sounds like its going to be a right larf there,,,, think i will stay in and wash my hair,

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:48 pm

ninianblue wrote:cheers carl, this end of season dinner, i was going, have been to a number of them, but we , have all decided to give it a miss,, the dinner is on the same day as the qpr game, nothing to celebrate then? and i heard they want you sat down at your table,ready to eat at 6-30, and now the players and staff, will be gone by 10, the players ,always wanted to leave as soon as they could, get in to town,, bar 1 or 2, so, it sounds like its going to be a right larf there,,,, think i will stay in and wash my hair,


Its Worse than that, So were not bothering either.

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:51 pm

Insightful update - CHOPRA WAS IN FYEO friday night hope hes taking this 'meeting' seriously

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:53 pm

nerd wrote:
DaveSheffield wrote:"What was Dave Jones' reason for telling Jay to turn around?"

Erm, possibly because he's aware of how important Jay is to the team and how talented he is, that we have no need to let him go and that doing so would be detrimental to the team.


And IF we don't go up, then yet again, it's money the club have lost.

4m for Bothroyd, 6m for Ledley.

And we wonder why we've high debts, why the Malaysians are bankrolling us?


This phantom Stoke bid for Joe Ledley... it was never confirmed. Considering Liesdale was in charge at the time, I'm willing to believe that he was being economical with the truth on that one as well.

And if we do go up, it will have been the right decision.

We can all pontificate with "ifs" (but pontificating with butts is more a preserve of some Swansea fans it would seem) but none of this matters anyway. For starters it's all messageboard gossip, and the fact is Bothroyd is playing for us, is our top scorer this season and plonked in another one yesterday in a game we won 4-1.

All seems a bit "Much Ado About Nothing" to me.

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:00 pm

Pontificate

"The term pontificate, like many other words, means different things depending on the context in which it is used. Pontificate can be used to refer to various aspects of pontifical duties or the office, or term of office, for a pontiff such as the Pope or a Bishop. Generally, it describes the administration of such an office. In this case, the function of the word pontificate is to act as a noun.

To pontificate also means to speak in dogmatic or inflexible terms. In this case as well as the following description, the function of the word is an intransitive verb, or one that does not take an object. This method of speaking is utilized frequently in political and other ideological discussions or debates, although it is often regarded as a religious characteristic. Priests, reverends, ministers, rabbis, imams, clerics, and other members of the clergy are prone to pontificate, in this narrow sense. Since most religious doctrines are static, rather than changing with the times and abandoning their core principles, a dogmatic approach is generally accepted and even embraced."


I've still got no idea what it means :lol:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Great Update Carl.

Not Damaging at All, Just the Truth and The Fans Deserve to know :ayatollah: :ayatollah:




Very much true mate :ayatollah:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:02 pm

DaveSheffield wrote:
nerd wrote:
DaveSheffield wrote:"What was Dave Jones' reason for telling Jay to turn around?"

Erm, possibly because he's aware of how important Jay is to the team and how talented he is, that we have no need to let him go and that doing so would be detrimental to the team.


And IF we don't go up, then yet again, it's money the club have lost.

4m for Bothroyd, 6m for Ledley.

And we wonder why we've high debts, why the Malaysians are bankrolling us?


This phantom Stoke bid for Joe Ledley... it was never confirmed. Considering Liesdale was in charge at the time, I'm willing to believe that he was being economical with the truth on that one as well.


Maybe, but it would certainly explain why Stoke ( who didn't refute the widely reported claim ) refused to consider going to a tribunal to fix a fee for Ledley, offering players instead.

And if we do go up, it will have been the right decision.


And if we don't, it'll have been the wrong decision.

We can all pontificate with "ifs" (but pontificating with butts is more a preserve of some Swansea fans it would seem) but none of this matters anyway. For starters it's all messageboard gossip, and the fact is Bothroyd is playing for us, is our top scorer this season and plonked in another one yesterday in a game we won 4-1.

All seems a bit "Much Ado About Nothing" to me.


Maybe, but it would explain Jay's inexplicable loss of form recently. It would also indicate all not well within the dressing room; you're a player, your manager blocks one of your teammates from moving to a higher level of football with far higher wages... what would your view be?

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:02 pm

Cheers Carl! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:03 pm

do you know what you might have a point there the plastics need to know the songs so maybe you have a point lets start a thread with all the old songs ..... :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:10 pm

why, why, why, oh why did you have to throw in the rumour about O'Neil

if its just a rumour then keep it that way until you know for sure its not one, during a friggin promotion run in, jeez man

it's clearly just me who is thinking this way, by the sounds of it, so maybe im wrong, but i just cannot understand the logic behind posting about it on here, even if you have heard it, just wait a couple of months like

i give up sometimes

I know youre a DJ fan Carl and that you know what hes done for the club over the years is a miracle, but this isnt gonna help

GET US TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE PLEASE DJ! I AND PLENTY OF OTHER FANS STILL KNOW THAT YOURE THE RIGHT MAN TO GET US TO AND KEEP US IN THE TOP DIVISION!!!

CARL Re SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:10 pm

Carl, If the council decide to let us off paying rates for a set period of time, it has nothing to do with the retailers accross the road, it is the councils right to allow a tax break, they do it all the time continuously for charity shops, and other business's although they do not have to, as for the retailers not paying their rates, that is illegal and they have no right for withholding them, and the council can enforce the payments through the courts if nessessary, and just because CCFC do not pay any, that is no excuse in law, if the retailer bosses do not pay, then the council can eventually apply to the court for a bankruptsy order, the bosses could even end up in prison, so it is all talk from them, and the council know that, and also know that they will pay up :thumbup:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:14 pm

scott_ccfc wrote:why, why, why, oh why did you have to throw in the rumour about O'Neil

if its just a rumour then keep it that way until you know for sure its not one, during a friggin promotion run in, jeez man

it's clearly just me who is thinking this way, by the sounds of it, so maybe im wrong, but i just cannot understand the logic behind posting about it on here, even if you have heard it, just wait a couple of months like

i give up sometimes

I know youre a DJ fan Carl and that you know what hes done for the club over the years is a miracle, but this isnt gonna help

GET US TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE PLEASE DJ! I AND PLENTY OF OTHER FANS STILL KNOW THAT YOURE THE RIGHT MAN TO GET US TO AND KEEP US IN THE TOP DIVISION!!!


If Carl doesn't post the rumour what stops someone else from doing so :? I'm sure you will find that Corky put it out hours before Carl did and if it wasn't Corky it would have been someone else.

Government's have trouble closing internet rumours down so you really think the mods on here can? (that's not a challenge BTW :lol: )

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:21 pm

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Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:31 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
scott_ccfc wrote:why, why, why, oh why did you have to throw in the rumour about O'Neil

if its just a rumour then keep it that way until you know for sure its not one, during a friggin promotion run in, jeez man

it's clearly just me who is thinking this way, by the sounds of it, so maybe im wrong, but i just cannot understand the logic behind posting about it on here, even if you have heard it, just wait a couple of months like

i give up sometimes

I know youre a DJ fan Carl and that you know what hes done for the club over the years is a miracle, but this isnt gonna help

GET US TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE PLEASE DJ! I AND PLENTY OF OTHER FANS STILL KNOW THAT YOURE THE RIGHT MAN TO GET US TO AND KEEP US IN THE TOP DIVISION!!!


If Carl doesn't post the rumour what stops someone else from doing so :? I'm sure you will find that Corky put it out hours before Carl did and if it wasn't Corky it would have been someone else.

Government's have trouble closing internet rumours down so you really think the mods on here can? (that's not a challenge BTW :lol: )

nah i agree to a point, but Carl knows that when he says it, he's well informed, when other people say it on message boards, like whoever else said it, noone really takes much notice, but alot of people actually listen to Carl on here and its just gonna cause problems if people think a high class manager like O'Neil could come to us next season in my opinion

i personally, really hope DJ stays, even if i dont agree with how he talks to the press sometimes in his interviews, and comes across as arrogant, i still think hes done wonders for this club and is a top, top manager

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:46 pm

Good Update Carl.

I just want to add something about DJs PA. Some will know who she is and others wont. Anyway I just wanted to add that I had the pleasure of working with her many years ago. She is a down to earth girl who is not out to make a name for herself or drop others in the sh*t.

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:14 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Good Update Carl.

I just want to add something about DJs PA. Some will know who she is and others wont. Anyway I just wanted to add that I had the pleasure of working with her many years ago. She is a down to earth girl who is not out to make a name for herself or drop others in the sh*t.


Hello Paul, sorry have to disagree on that one!!! totally opposite findings myself.

Re: CARL Re SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:16 pm

Igovernor wrote:Carl, If the council decide to let us off paying rates for a set period of time, it has nothing to do with the retailers accross the road, it is the councils right to allow a tax break, they do it all the time continuously for charity shops, and other business's although they do not have to, as for the retailers not paying their rates, that is illegal and they have no right for withholding them, and the council can enforce the payments through the courts if nessessary, and just because CCFC do not pay any, that is no excuse in law, if the retailer bosses do not pay, then the council can eventually apply to the court for a bankruptsy order, the bosses could even end up in prison, so it is all talk from them, and the council know that, and also know that they will pay up :thumbup:




The council gave a five year break to john lewis to attract them to cardiff.
perhaps if they had given the same break to david morgans we would still have a century year old local welsh family business within the cardiff community.

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:18 pm

cheers carl another great update,may be dj will become director of football with
o'neil taking charge of team matters,mmmmm very interesting :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:19 pm

Good on jones for keeping bothroyd. On the other hand only a fool or an imbecile would say that and his recent displays are not linked.

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:23 pm

Damned Yank wrote:Good on jones for keeping bothroyd. On the other hand only a fool or an imbecile would say that and his recent displays are not linked.


Correct Yank!

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:31 pm

cheers carl :ayatollah:

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:35 pm

so jay wanted to go then even tho he stated he didnt. no wonder he has been so crap last few months. I'm sure wenger saw this side to him as have many others. footballers today hey. nice. i hope he has signed for fulham already, sure he has. as for martin o neil, no chance. i wouldnt be surprised to see him step into fergie's shoes when he retires at the end of this season (if he wins the league) and beats liverpools titles score. he's a top 5 manager so why on earth would he come to ccfc??? bizarre

Re: STICKY : " SUNDAY 03rd APRIL 2011 UPDATE "

Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:40 pm

Daya wrote:
Damned Yank wrote:Good on jones for keeping bothroyd. On the other hand only a fool or an imbecile would say that and his recent displays are not linked.


Correct Yank!


Too much of a coincidence that he goes to shit right after the window closes.

Thanks for the first half of the season at least Jay.